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mentally ill people who have killed or have the potential to kill, yes. its a HUGE waste of time that could be spent on people that are able to be in society.

most definitely. she is horribly dangerous and i cant believe shes been let loose.

exactly!! rip their damn heads off for all i care..disgusting waste of space, thats all they are and i feel absolutely no pity for anyone but the victims.

but what kind of real life could they have? solitary confinement? that is far more cruel than the death penalty. its not like these people are going to be making pipe cleaner animals and playing bingo..they are dangerous people who need to be put down before they get the chance. it is a waste of...

what makes it meaningful is not being an insane murdering person, for starters. really, thats about it. you kill, you can just go die somewhere!

absolutely. there was a case a while back about 2 people who were diagnosed as being mentally retarded..they managed to kidnap, molest, and torture a child and then kill him..sorry, they need to die and luckily, they are going for the death penalty.

a severely mentally ill man who killed some people! seriously, he isnt going to have any sort of meaningful life anyways, and hes a murderer. it was definitely for the best, but they shouldnt have waited so long.

that isnt the issue..the issue is taking out anyone who is deemed a threat. obviously i mean in the context of being an insane axe murderer. im just not very sympathetic..there really is no cure for being a crazed murderer, and i would rather spend the time and money on someone whos not..a...

its a valid point, i dont mind..it is what makes for a good debate!

well, frankie isnt going and blowing away people, right? that aside, i dont care who it is..if they are at risk of killing someone, they dont need to be here.

what i meant was that if someone is so insane that they have killed or will kill others, oh yes, by all means..pull the switch. and that goes for child molesters as well. the whole two birds with one stone sort of thing, i guess.

its better to put him out of his misery anyways..if i had a dog that was attacking and killing other things, i would have him put down..and i wouldnt want this guy having even the slightest chance of getting out. keeping him alive in prison only wastes money and resources on someone who simply...

yep, we saw a neurologist, had an mri done...all normal! so strange!!

yep, i did..they sent me respite vouchers and information on different groups. they said hes "moderately retarded" if that makes sense..i hope he will learn..tomorrow, we are going to check out the sign language classes and talk to this lady..apparently the other director has a kid like frank.

oh well, of course and trust me, i spend all day trying to stimulate any bit of desire to learn or communicate, even though there is no reciprocation. ive not written him off as a "lost cause" or anything..its just stating facts that he is not understanding things at this point.

what do you mean by receptively having access..im being dense today! he sees signs, and we watch the signing videos..but it doesnt register..its like he is zoned out and not really comprehending, if that makes sense. nothing grabs his attention.

he has absolutely zero understanding of anything being said to him..it is so strange. i can say "look at the dog" or "wheres daddy" and he just gives me a blank stare. the only thing he does to communicate is cry when he wants me to hold him and he makes this weird static sound when his dad...

this is a private school thing, not through the public..the problem is that hes not able to mimic people that well, and he cant use his hands properly..we have to overcome that to get to the point of learning sign language.

no, hes not in school. it was just too much for him, and i dont think the director wouldve let him carry on like that anyways.

we are still trying to show him signs and he is completely oblivious..even the director at the deaf preschool said there is no way he is ready to learn any of that yet..he went for a day but he had a rough four hours..he couldnt eat because they only have meal times at a specific time, and he...