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SyrOrange, where is your proof that it was an apple?

Okay, you see, Jordan? This is why I did not want you to post. You have no understanding of the topic at all. So please, just don't post. Thanks.

Jordan, I do not appreciate your personal attacks and trolling that does nothing for the topic. But if you'd like to actually discuss the very topic here, then fine. Just please don't attack me or anything else. I'm giving you a chance starting now. :)

First of all, you shouldn't be relying on technology. You're supposed to rely on yourself. I can write notes just as easily as typing in a laptop if not with similar speed. Writing notes are better than on laptops when it comes to graphing, hierarchy drawing, lines, bubbles, etc. You just can't...

In that context, it makes sense. Now I wish to verify what Jesus Christ said of "original sin". Does anyone know what verses may contain Jesus Christ's own words in regards to original sin?

Act of commission? Authority? I don't think I was referring to that either...

Human beings are natural sinners. Yes. I agree with that. But babies who have yet to know what a constitutes as a sin is not a sinner. For anyone to be a sinner, they must first acknowledge it as a sin then repeat the same sin again.

Which is why it isn't a sin. ;) The bottom line is, they are too young to know this. Especially infants of 6 month old's. I certainly do! The thing is, they did not know it was a sin in the first place. Therefore, they are not sinners.

Umm, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. In year 853, Ahaziah becomes king of Israel and during that same year, Jehoram becomes king of Judah. Twelve years later in 841 Jehu takes over Ahaziah's throne as king. Ahaziah leaves to reign over and effectively become king of Judah. With that...

I would agree that we are sinners in nature but that goes unexplained for an infant that does not know any better. Where would the infant end up - heaven or hell?

Babies may lie but they would do so unknowingly. Therefore to call it an actual lie is a lie in itself! They only do it because it is natural and sometimes necessary. Then again, how would you know they were doing it on purpose of lying? You don't.

Many sites say it was 22. Now you insist it's 42. Haha. I'm using the KJV Bible. Many Christians wish not to deviate from the KJV Bible so I will stick with that. I prefer the NIV translation though because it's clearer (and accurate). Here's NIV: "Ahaziah was twenty-two years old when he...

I do not think you understand the Biblical definition of "sinner". If an infant who turns 1 years old and screams, "No!", is that a lie? A baby just may be expressing their feelings. http://childrenscentralcal.org/content.asp?id=1948&parent=1&groupid=G0053 The most typical age of...

Ah, so it was an error? And it's prevalent in every Bible. :X Only one translation got it right. How can we trust the Bible doesn't make any more mistakes like these (if you get my gist...).

Uhh? I'm a "staunch" supporter? ROFL. No, it's just that this topic got boring. Posting here is like talking to brick walls [on both sides].

It's okay - you're deaf. You won't get sarcasm.

Not you, hun. :)

Judas bought blood with money. ;) It can go either way.

Hmm, I'm not sure how that makes sense. One verse says 42 years old. The other verse says 22 years old (right?). Both said at those specific ages, Ahaziah will reign. If logic dictates that only one is true and the other is false, which one is it?

Perhaps you'd like to read the verses again. They refer to the same exact person with the same exact purpose and relatives.