Deaf view on a CI kid... its a bummer..

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jillio said:
How is it that he could be defined as handicapped when he has already achieved more than many of his hearing age cohort? .......
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So, a handicapped person can never achieve more than a person that is not handicapped!


WOW.... what a sad statement.

So THAT is how you look at handicapped people...!!!
 
Cloggy said:
......my daughter can hear... is perfect, happy and is not bothered by her handicap. Like most people that are deaf.

You forgot the last part.

Or... can you only see people with a handicap as creatures that cannot take care of themself, need constant assitance, rely on other people, etc...
Missing a limb, a sense, a deformation etc is considered a handicap. This does not mean that the handicap has to affect the life of the person. But it can. Some people will let the handicap rule their life, some people will let life rule the handicap. some people will ignore the handicap...

Anyway....
My daughter is deaf, she can hear...
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Only in the eyes of narrow minded bigots who judge the circumstances of others by their own ethnocentric and limited view. See the person first, cloggy. I can't run a 20 mile marathon. But there are amputees who do it every day. Handicap is a matter of perspective, and yours is very limited.
 
Cloggy said:
So, a handicapped person can never achieve more than a person that is not handicapped!


WOW.... what a sad statement.

So THAT is how you look at handicapped people...!!!
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Those are your attitudes cloggy. You proved it when you used the word orginally.
 
Cloggy said:
Read them, went there and didn't find any statement about my daughter being Deaf...

You should try that.... actually read a post. Very refreshing!
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Read my post cloggy. I typed deaf not Deaf.
 
How come you talked about " handicapped " ? What does that have to do with Cochlear Implants and deaf view on a CI kid ? :-\

Please, pardon me - I am a little bit confused here.
 
Maria said:
How come you talked about " handicapped " ? What does that have to do with Cochlear Implants and deaf view on a CI kid ? :-\

Please, pardon me - I am a little bit confused here.
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It only has to do with the reasons that parents sometimes choose CI. Becasue they see deafness as a handicap. Poor kids!
 
Let's just call 'em all differently-abled and get on with it. *Dang Tousi, you're getting on this semantics brigade, too?!?*
 
jillio said:
It only has to do with the reasons that parents sometimes choose CI. Becasue they see deafness as a handicap. Poor kids!
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Ahh, alright ! I don't think deafness is really handicapped. Gee, if deafness is really handicapped, then we, the deaf people will NOT have our own ears. We, the deaf people have our own ears to show, but the eardrums inside the ears don't work. We, the deaf people DO HAVE the eardrums inside the ears. It's NOT absent. It's still there. It's the nerves that don't work to bring messages. It doesn't mean that it is called " handicapped " for pete's sake. :lol: I think that's insane to even think of that!

:ty: for explainin', sweetie ! :)
 
Maria said:
Ahh, alright ! I don't think deafness is really handicapped. Gee, if deafness is really handicapped, then we, the deaf people will NOT have our own ears. We, the deaf people have our own ears to show, but the eardrums inside the ears don't work. We, the deaf people DO HAVE the eardrums inside the ears. It's NOT absent. It's still there. It's the nerves that don't work to bring messages. It doesn't mean that it is called " handicapped " for pete's sake. :lol: I think that's insane to even think of that!

:ty: for explainin', sweetie ! :)
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Wanna call me Broken Ears from now on, Maria? :giggle:
 
Let's think about this........when my son was in grammar school, I met Billy Barton. He was a person of small stature (a "midget", if you will). He was also a well known stage and screen actor who was paid handsomely for his work. He was educated and articulate. He was married with a family. He traveled all over the world. He used his fame to speak out against discrimination of people with disabilities of all sorts, and he began and ran the foundation known as "Little People". In his later years, he also accepted engagements, for which he was not paid, to speak to elementary school students and their parents to try to educate people regarding those who may have a disability.

This was a man, who under your definition, cloggy, is handicapped. But I cannot for the life of me, see how someone who has accomplished all he was able to accomplish, and then gave back to try to make the world a better place for others, as "handicapped". Those with all of their senses, and both arms and legs, and their hearing and their sight, would do well to live as successful and full a life as did Billy.

He did not view himself as handicapped, and neither do I. Nor would any reasonably thinking person.

You truly need to widen your view. Stop looking at what might be missing or different than what you yourself are used to, and see the person and all that they are able to accomplish, despite the fact that others try to keep them in a little box labled "handicapped".
 
Tousi said:
Let's just call 'em all differently-abled and get on with it. *Dang Tousi, you're getting on this semantics brigade, too?!?*
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It's tempting, isn't it Tousi? Often, however, the choice of a word is a key to the underlying attitude of discrimination.
 
Maria said:
Ahh, alright ! I don't think deafness is really handicapped. Gee, if deafness is really handicapped, then we, the deaf people will NOT have our own ears. We, the deaf people have our own ears to show, but the eardrums inside the ears don't work. We, the deaf people DO HAVE the eardrums inside the ears. It's NOT absent. It's still there. It's the nerves that don't work to bring messages. It doesn't mean that it is called " handicapped " for pete's sake. :lol: I think that's insane to even think of that!

:ty: for explainin', sweetie ! :)
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YW. Anytime!
 
Tousi said:
Let's just call 'em all differently-abled and get on with it. *Dang Tousi, you're getting on this semantics brigade, too?!?*
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Okay, Billy Barton (referencing my above post) was differently,wonderfully abled and courageous enough to to prove those who saw him as "handicapped" wrong. How's that?
 
jillio said:
Okay, Billy Barton (referencing my above post) was differently,wonderfully abled and courageous enough to to prove those who saw him as "handicapped" wrong. How's that?
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:fingersx: You know more than I do, Ma'am. I was just mumbling, itching for this to get on with it and if what I said (and apparently it was) was civil, ahhhh, well, great.:giggle:

Dang, I'm getting goofy today!
 
Tousi said:
:fingersx: You know more than I do, Ma'am. I was just mumbling, itching for this to get on with it and if what I said (and apparently it was) was civil, ahhhh, well, great.:giggle:

Dang, I'm getting goofy today!
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Just trying to comply, my friend, just trying to comply!:giggle: Good night to you!
 
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Good morning to you all... I am here in the office and read part of posts here... I was like *sigh* over that "handicapped"...

Yes, deafness and HOH are disability but I do not consider myself as disability/handicapped. *shrug*
 
Hey, Leibling is at work, earning a few dollars ahead of us who are sleeping! Lol...
 
jillio said:
Thank you liebling. It wasn't intended as boasting at all, just a statement of facts.
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Yes I know... I see nothing wrong when anyone share their life experience here with us as the same as I to my hearing son as well because they are fact.

I :applause: you for that.
 
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