Would you give felons a second chance?

[NitroHonda]

Nope, not here in NYS, it becomes permanent part of database. It will show whether person is in custody or not. Can not be deleted. And no, there is no fee to pay *IF* you know where to look for.

Show me.

 

[diehardbiker]

Show me.

You could have done that yourself.

Google, NYS dept correction

click Inmate look up

pick name, and it will drop list of inmates, and wether in jail or not.

Alright I google for you

Inmate Information » NYS Department of Corrections and Community Supervision

Enjoy

 

[NitroHonda]

You could have done that yourself.

Google, NYS dept correction

click Inmate look up

pick name, and it will drop list of inmates, and wether in jail or not.

Alright I google for you

Inmate Information » NYS Department of Corrections and Community Supervision

Enjoy

Uh.. no. It was YOUR claim. Time for you to stop talking out of your ass and back up your claims... and what you have shown me is exactly what I said it was. Here is the background check fee procedure.

Criminal History Records, Background Checks - NY DCJS

 

[diehardbiker]

I am not going to take picture and post here, its silly and waste time, quit blabbling like that

Google, "NYS dept Correctional"

Click where it shows INMATE LOOK UP

then make up names, and YOU WILL see whether confined or discharged, including the conviction information. OFC not 100 detailed, but general rap. Its right there, I check them all the time and have not paid a penny.

If you wish to find elaborate details of crime, yes have to pay fee for that part. But if you want just general information, like Class B felony Grand Larency. What minimum sentence, maximim sentence, next parole hearing, how long supervision, blah blah blah.

Uh.. no. It was YOUR claim. Time for you to stop talking out of your ass and back up your claims... and what you have shown me is exactly what I said it was. Here is the background check fee procedure.

Criminal History Records, Background Checks - NY DCJS

 

[Foxrac]

I am not going to take picture and post here, its silly and waste time, quit blabbling like that

Google, "NYS dept Correctional"

Click where it shows INMATE LOOK UP

then make up names, and YOU WILL see whether confined or discharged, including the conviction information. OFC not 100 detailed, but general rap. Its right there, I check them all the time.

What about Texas?

 

[diehardbiker]

No idea, use your best friend called "Google" I am not going to google for everybody. They can do what I can.

EDIT: I just google up for Texas inmate look up. It appears shows all the information except those already released. Meaning Texas shows only Inmate confined, release date, what criminal charges are, and little more like where he is confined at.

I see only difference between Texas and NYS is that Texas don't show released inmate information. Interesting.

What about Texas?

 

[NitroHonda]

I am not going to take picture and post here, its silly and waste time, quit blabbling like that

Google, "NYS dept Correctional"

Click where it shows INMATE LOOK UP

then make up names, and YOU WILL see whether confined or discharged, including the conviction information. OFC not 100 detailed, but general rap. Its right there, I check them all the time.

I don't think you understand the justice system very well. That's okay. Since you don't want to back up your assertions as usual... I will move on.

:roll:

 

[NitroHonda]

What about Texas?

It's the same. You can freely check on an inmate who is currently in jail (or recently discharged) and find out their CHARGES, not convictions as you MUST pay for a background check for that.

 

[diehardbiker]

Did you check the link I gave you and put last name and first name, then click inmate ID number and go in next page did you?

It's the same. You can freely check on an inmate who is currently in jail (or recently discharged) and find out their CHARGES, not convictions as you MUST pay for a background check for that.

 

[diehardbiker]

Guess you are too lazy to use your keyboard. I'd move on.

I don't think you understand the justice system very well. That's okay. Since you don't want to back up your assertions as usual... I will move on.

:roll:

 

[Foxrac]

It's the same. You can freely check on an inmate who is currently in jail (or recently discharged) and find out their CHARGES, not convictions as you MUST pay for a background check for that.

Yes, it is professional to do criminal background check - especially for business owners.

 

[NitroHonda]

Yes, it is professional to do criminal background check - especially for business owners.

Yes I know. I have paid for them.

 

[JadeSkye]

NitroHonda, diehardbiker- not trying to get into your conversation but I just thought I would point out that maybe there is a bit of confusion going on here (or maybe I am just confused). I think you might be thinking about different things when saying that "yes you can see it even if they aren't in jail" and "no you can't" (I'm paraphrasing). I was leaning towards agreeing with diehardbiker and saying that "yes, you can see everything even if they aren't currently in jail" until I read this statement you made, NitroHonda:

It's the same. You can freely check on an inmate who is currently in jail (or recently discharged) and find out their CHARGES, not convictions as you MUST pay for a background check for that.

SO- I am thinking that maybe diehardbiker was really just referring to their charges (and maybe thinking of them as convictions) when making his statements and all along NitroHonda was referring to convictions... And maybe everyone was getting a little hot under the collar because of the mis-communication and misunderstanding what the other said... I hope I don't offend anyone by stepping into things to say this- I just would hate for people to be irritated with each other because of a possible misunderstanding and thought that maybe my "aha" moment could help someone else understand. Because I know in my county jail at least, you can look up someone and it WILL pull up arrest records for them, even if they aren't currently in jail (it will show their arrests in our county jail- so not a complete record if they have ever been arrested elsewhere)... And when reading through your debate I was thinking "yes, you CAN do that" without realizing that I was thinking about arrests, NOT convictions! Again, hope I didn't step on any toes in saying all this- only trying to help...

 

[AlleyCat]

Guess you are too lazy to use your keyboard. I'd move on.

That isn't right. You know Nitro was right and you were trying to backtrack.

The links you provided only show if they're in jail, and what for. Nitro was talking about the extensive criminal history. You cannot get an extensive background check for free. Any prudent business owner knows that. Most "free" stuff is limited and questionable, at best.

 

[diehardbiker]

Thanks for the clarification. I just thought if there were misdemeanors, that part generally won't be published freely. Only those who are charged with felony crimes, some states would show all info while others not much like Pennsylvania.

This is the reason why I had to refer to link for him to see for himself but guess he didn't even try that link. I dunno.

NitroHonda, diehardbiker- not trying to get into your conversation but I just thought I would point out that maybe there is a bit of confusion going on here (or maybe I am just confused). I think you might be thinking about different things when saying that "yes you can see it even if they aren't in jail" and "no you can't" (I'm paraphrasing). I was leaning towards agreeing with diehardbiker and saying that "yes, you can see everything even if they aren't currently in jail" until I read this statement you made, NitroHonda:



SO- I am thinking that maybe diehardbiker was really just referring to their charges (and maybe thinking of them as convictions) when making his statements and all along NitroHonda was referring to convictions... And maybe everyone was getting a little hot under the collar because of the mis-communication and misunderstanding what the other said... I hope I don't offend anyone by stepping into things to say this- I just would hate for people to be irritated with each other because of a possible misunderstanding and thought that maybe my "aha" moment could help someone else understand. Because I know in my county jail at least, you can look up someone and it WILL pull up arrest records for them, even if they aren't currently in jail (it will show their arrests in our county jail- so not a complete record if they have ever been arrested elsewhere)... And when reading through your debate I was thinking "yes, you CAN do that" without realizing that I was thinking about arrests, NOT convictions! Again, hope I didn't step on any toes in saying all this- only trying to help...

 

[NitroHonda]

NitroHonda, diehardbiker- not trying to get into your conversation but I just thought I would point out that maybe there is a bit of confusion going on here (or maybe I am just confused). I think you might be thinking about different things when saying that "yes you can see it even if they aren't in jail" and "no you can't" (I'm paraphrasing). I was leaning towards agreeing with diehardbiker and saying that "yes, you can see everything even if they aren't currently in jail" until I read this statement you made, NitroHonda:



SO- I am thinking that maybe diehardbiker was really just referring to their charges (and maybe thinking of them as convictions) when making his statements and all along NitroHonda was referring to convictions... And maybe everyone was getting a little hot under the collar because of the mis-communication and misunderstanding what the other said... I hope I don't offend anyone by stepping into things to say this- I just would hate for people to be irritated with each other because of a possible misunderstanding and thought that maybe my "aha" moment could help someone else understand. Because I know in my county jail at least, you can look up someone and it WILL pull up arrest records for them, even if they aren't currently in jail (it will show their arrests in our county jail- so not a complete record if they have ever been arrested elsewhere)... And when reading through your debate I was thinking "yes, you CAN do that" without realizing that I was thinking about arrests, NOT convictions! Again, hope I didn't step on any toes in saying all this- only trying to help...

Nobody's hot under the collar. Diehardbiker and I both are big boys. We can handle it.



I came here for insightful discussion but he doesn't want to back up his claims which has been his genre. I'm more than open to hearing them. Calling me (and others) lazy wasn't real representative of someone who wants to talk but instead troll.

Believe me... it's all good.

 

[NitroHonda]

Thanks for the clarification. I just thought if there were misdemeanors, that part generally won't be published freely. Only those who are charged with felony crimes, some states would show all info while others not much like Pennsylvania.

This is the reason why I had to refer to link for him to see for himself but guess he didn't even try that link. I dunno.

I clicked the link and responded with another.

 

[diehardbiker]

What you mean? Didn't it go to NYS dept correction inmate look up? As far as I know three states have database open to public, and what they are containing. I don't know the rest, that is why I said got to look for.

The part I forgot was any crimes that is not classified as felony, your correct about paying fee for that background check.

Also the reason why I don't want to get into details because one of my friend that I know for years is now in jail. It was a shock for me and it was disbelief. He refused to give me details because he was afraid I will spread the news. He didn't know that I already found out why, and how long he will serve. Its pretty much out of respect.

I clicked the link and responded with another.

 

[NitroHonda]

What you mean? Didn't it go to NYS dept correction inmate look up? As far as I know three states have database open to public, and what they are containing. I don't know the rest, that is why I said got to look for.

The part I forgot was any crimes that is not classified as felony, your correct about paying fee for that background check.

Also the reason why I don't want to get into details because one of my friend that I know for years is now in jail. It was a shock for me and it was disbelief. He refused to give me details because he was afraid I will spread the news. He didn't know that I already found out why, and how long he will serve. Its pretty much out of respect.

Yes it did and it took me to "inmate lookup" which is exactly what I said it was. It simply isn't a background check or "convictions". It sounds like you and I are on the same page now. That's all I was saying.

It's similar to Naisho being able to obtain the Gallaudet drug bust information. It's definitely public record but it isn't a list of convictions or a criminal background per se.

Sorry about your friend. I understand though because I also have friends (and family). Chances are we all know somebody who's gotten locked up for an extended period.

 

[diehardbiker]

Sorry for going off the point, can't help cause I am Gemini... LOL

Think about this, we Deaf generally native with ASL, and having trouble understand each other though English... If we had true written ASL here or done though Video... there won't be any misunderstand at all. And this is reason why I avoid Text based relay and stick with Video relay.

Anyway back to topic...