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Across 90 minutes with Oprah Winfrey, Lance Armstrong did more than admit he cheated to win his seven Tour de France titles. He revealed a measure of the man that he is and this much is certain: If you never met this jerk, well, count your blessings.

Defiant, distant, difficult.

Arrogant, unaware, flippant.

Oh, Lance had a plan to try to look open and honest, and that was what was so obvious: It was a plan. It sounded rehearsed. But when he went off script, well, that's when he went off the rails.

He apologized, and that's worth something, worth a lot to those of us who aren't outraged anymore over doping in sports. But in doing so, in tuning into the Oprah Winfrey Network, you could only marvel at that personality on display, the same one that while we celebrated his victories was, behind the scenes, leaving a path of personal destruction in its wake.

This was a glimmer of the true Lance Armstrong coming out. No Nike commercial edits. No press conference sound bites. No glowing magazine profiles. This was the guy who left scores and scores of people cursing that their paths ever crossed.

It's not about the bike, indeed. This was about Lance's sociopathic spectacle.

At one point during the interview, he couldn't recall how many people he'd sued. Really. He not only didn't know the number, he couldn't even be sure when asked about specific individuals that his mighty, powerful legal team relentlessly tried to bury.

It's worth noting that many of the people he's sued through the years in an effort to protect his lies and glory were one-time close friends, roommates, teammates, business partners and associates.

Is there another person in America who has sued so many people he once liked – for telling the truth, mind you – that he can't remember all of them? Anyone?

What you and your bank account and those sleepless nights you can't forget -- he can't remember.

Good Lord, what a guy.

At one point Armstrong addressed Betsy Andreu, the wife of a former teammate Frankie Andreu, who testified that while lying in a hospital bed in 1996 Armstrong told his doctor that he had doped.

Over the years Lance and his henchman bullied and bruised Betsy relentlessly. They called her names. They tried to wipe her out. They, according to Betsy, blackballed her husband's career. She kept standing up and speaking out. There was even a voicemail from an Armstrong associate who said he hoped "somebody breaks a baseball bat over your head."

Lance knows he was terrible to Betsy so he said he called her the other day to begin making amends. You know for, among other things, calling her "crazy." He decided to tell Oprah about it, including what is apparently his idea of a sense of humor.

"I did call her crazy," he said. "I did. I did … I think she'd be OK with me saying this, I said, 'Listen, I called you crazy; I called you a bitch; I called you all of these things, but I never called you fat.' "

Then he smirked.

Now that's a novel way to gain forgiveness: make a fat joke about a woman on national television.

Needless to say, Betsy wasn't OK with him saying it.

"I guess we know why I was [a bitch] all these years, putting up with that," Betsy said on CNN on Thursday night after watching the clip. "How was I supposed to act? Sweet as apple pie? … That exchange right there, it has me furious."

Take a number Betsy.

Across the spectrum there is fury and regret. Mike Anderson, a former personal assistant who claims Lance tried to ruin him, avoided watching the interview. Then he inadvertently was exposed to a replayed segment while waiting to comment on CNN.

"I didn't want to hear his voice ever again," Anderson said.

Fellow riders say they wish they'd never hooked on with him. Support staff claim they wish they'd never taken a job. Sponsors are lining up to sue. Journalists who carried his water for years are writing they wish they'd never bought the lie.

The more Armstrong talked Thursday, the more it became obvious: This seems like the last and least likable individual you'd want to hang around.

He was, and likely remains, nothing but a machine of personal glorification, no concept of his real place in the world. Now that the truth is out, it's not about the cheating so much as it's about the way he fought dirty to protect the cheating.

I was a bully," he acknowledged. "In the sense that I tried to control the narrative, and if I didn't like what somebody said, I tried to control that and say that's a lie."

Except he didn't stop at saying "that's a lie." He'd start there, then go on the attack, often trying to ruin his accusers professionally and, perhaps, personally, maybe legally and certainly financially.

Consider Emma O'Reilly, an Irish massage therapist who began working for his team while in her 20s. She later told the truth about Lance and drugs. For that she's testified Team Armstrong responded by calling her a whore and a drunk. But Armstrong didn't stop there. No, he tried to sue into oblivion this woman of limited financial means.

What did Armstrong say of Emma? He couldn't remember if he even attempted legal action against her.

"To be honest Oprah," he chuckled lightly, "we sued so many people, I'm sure we did."

You sure?

"She's one of those people I have to apologize to," Armstrong said.

You think?

"She got run over, got bullied," he continued. He was in the wrong tense then. She got run over, got bullied. Not, "I ran her over. I bullied her." Because make no mistake, it was him. It was only him.

On and on it went.

"Look at this arrogant prick," he said as he watched video of his 2005 testimony when he denied he'd ever used performance-enhancing drugs, and, well, on that he was telling the truth.

Armstrong admitted that it was "too late" to come clean and for that he may be correct. Some won't ever forgive or forget. Those who know the ins and outs of the case in detail were quickly picking apart his comments with ease, suggesting he was still lying, or forgetting, or conveniently misremembering all sorts of details.

Oprah did a fine job drilling down on pertinent issues. For most of us, though, the specifics barely mattered. It wasn't about whether he cheated or not; it was that awful, unavoidable personality.

And there's still another hour to go with Oprah (Friday, 9 p.m. ET).

After the first session the only question left unanswered is how he ever found so many friends to stab in the back in the first place.

Lance Armstrong, arrogant and unaware, did little to repair his image in mea culpa with Oprah - Yahoo! Sports
 
I feel for those that watch bike races. It's tarnished in a way, but hopefully people will watch bike races later on when this dies down.
 
I feel for those that watch bike races. It's tarnished in a way, but hopefully people will watch bike races later on when this dies down.

Agree to that....he's tarnished bike racing....Seems to me that he doesn't really care, just wants to keep his name in the News...he's a Bully and a Lier.
 
I get the impression he's trying to stay relevant...and he's just not. If this man as a cancer survivor peddled his way to the finish line of the Tour to France, clean and dead last....he would still be a hero. Unfortunately, we're looking at a man that who despite his achievements overcoming this awful disease, is not really much of a man that even his family can be proud of, and for his children, that's really tragic. His ego is too bloated for anyone to take that interview seriously and believe that he regrets anything beyond getting caught....

Laura
 
I've been studying steroids in sports for some time now and my views have changed on what to do about it. I've always felt PEDs should not be banned because at the professional level you are not paid to not perform. However, I've also strongly felt that titles should not be taken away from those who did not have access or refused to use PEDs. Because of this, after finally deciding jail is not the answer, I came to the conclusion that the stripping of titles is a just punishment. And, I really felt this in the case of Lance Armstrong that the stripping of his titles was justice.

However, after the interview I found, in Lance Armstrong's case, his crime is not just the use of PEDs. Lance Armstrong used to law to crush people who spoke the truth. Think about it for a minute, innocent people were financially crippled by the Armstrong suing machine. He used the law as a weapon with criminal intent. By his own admission he stated, he's sued so many people he can't remember them all.

Honestly, he is a real criminal and he needs to be put in prison.

EDIT: I have nothing but admiration and respect for Betsy Andreu. She never outed Lance Armstrong(she was subpena'd), yet after even being sued and her husband being black listed she never backed down from the truth.
 
Just think...what if Lance Armstrong sued me? I decided to lie under oath to protect Lance Armstrong. I would get in a big trouble. THose who were sued by Lance had no choice, but to tell the truth.
 
To ruin people like that for something he was doing illegally just shows someone who is absulotely incapable of remorse hence him being a sociopath. I feel for those who were ruined for speaking the truth..they should be the heros!
 
Lance Armstrong used to law to crush people who spoke the truth. Think about it for a minute, innocent people were financially crippled by the Armstrong suing machine. He used the law as a weapon with criminal intent. By his own admission he stated, he's sued so many people he can't remember them all.

This is what I find most disturbing about him and why his mea culpa is so obviously phoney. Did anyone else notice when he was describing Ms. Andreu he took a moment and called her "fat" like this was a joke - mind you during an interview with a woman that's dealt with weight issues her whole life....

Even when he was attempting to "apologize," he still took a shot at the lady. The fact that he was attacking people with such gusto was just shameful. It makes me wonder what this man even has to offer his children given the poor example he sets for others. If you ask me, his ex-wife got the better end of the deal when he left her. Everyone deserves better than a Lance Armstrong in their life....
 
This is what I find most disturbing about him and why his mea culpa is so obviously phoney. Did anyone else notice when he was describing Ms. Andreu he took a moment and called her "fat" like this was a joke - mind you during an interview with a woman that's dealt with weight issues her whole life....

Even when he was attempting to "apologize," he still took a shot at the lady. The fact that he was attacking people with such gusto was just shameful. It makes me wonder what this man even has to offer his children given the poor example he sets for others. If you ask me, his ex-wife got the better end of the deal when he left her. Everyone deserves better than a Lance Armstrong in their life....

Perhaps it is just the fact that I'm deaf, but I think Oprah smiled a little too much at some the answers, as if it were an inside joke.

I know I miss a lot, but there wasn't anything to smile about.

I'm going to find a transcript if I can so I can read what was said.
 
Less than 15 minutes to the next interview with Lance. I really wish they had captions over the net. I don't see why they can't.
 
Hey, I found it. Seems there is a link you can click on under the player. I'm going to try it.
 
I didn't bother to watch the interview, I know he's a smug jerk, why would I? I think Oprah was just being polite and maybe a little surprised how deep he was digging himself into a hole with his remarks....
 
I didn't bother to watch the interview, I know he's a smug jerk, why would I? I think Oprah was just being polite and maybe a little surprised how deep he was digging himself into a hole with his remarks....

Possible...
 
Well, I can add insight of someone that was reading his body language which she found "unsettling..." The pursing of his lips, hesitating...indicates that he was "holding back" and not telling the whole story. The finger curled around his mouth was a sign that he was angry about the questions being asked. He was sitting closed in instead of back and arms wide open which means he was guarded and protective of his statements. The smiling and smirking when he was describing the sophistication of the extremes he went to deceive speaks to how proud he was to pull this off for so long....the short story....he's a lying dirt bag.....
 
Well, I can add insight of someone that was reading his body language which she found "unsettling..." The pursing of his lips, hesitating...indicates that he was "holding back" and not telling the whole story. The finger curled around his mouth was a sign that he was angry about the questions being asked. He was sitting closed in instead of back and arms wide open which means he was guarded and protective of his statements. The smiling and smirking when he was describing the sophistication of the extremes he went to deceive speaks to how proud he was to pull this off for so long....the short story....he's a lying dirt bag.....

That is interesting..

Tonight, I think the conversation with his son, Luke, is open to skepticism. I don't believe it happened. If you told an 11 year old kid(your son) you doped, after he defended you from classmates, he wouldn't just accept it like an adult, the conversation wouldn't end there. No way...
 
Probably the most amazing thing is that he admits to using before all 7 wins. That means after miraculously surviving cancer he was willing to risk cancer again just to win a bicycle race. Dude has serious mental issues.
 
Probably the most amazing thing is that he admits to using before all 7 wins. That means after miraculously surviving cancer he was willing to risk cancer again just to win a bicycle race. Dude has serious mental issues.

That's what I was thinking...these drugs he used aren't health foods, they're banned for more reasons than being performance improving. As for the conversation with his son - which I think is personally disgusting to bring your children into this to try and explain or justify it, I doubt it went down the way he spoke of. I'm sure his children are just as disappointed in him as everyone else...he's just too arrogant to see it....
 
Probably the most amazing thing is that he admits to using before all 7 wins. That means after miraculously surviving cancer he was willing to risk cancer again just to win a bicycle race. Dude has serious mental issues.

I do believe he may be mentally ill.

Not surprising, the drugs make you feel good and give you a feeling of empowerment. That's got to be the best alternative/opposite to chemo.

Stupid, yes, but you cannot deny the affects.
 
Betsy Andreu, Lance Armstrong Whistleblower, On Oprah Interview: 'He's A Master Manipulator'

Betsy Andreu, Lance Armstrong Whistleblower, On Oprah Interview: 'He's A Master Manipulator'



Betsy Andreu, the wife of Lance Armstrong's former teammate, joined HuffPost Live Friday to react to Armstrong's doping confession to Oprah in an interview airing Thursday night. In 2006, Andreu testified that she heard Armstrong admit to his cancer doctors a decade earlier that he had used EPO, growth hormone and steroids. After her testimony, Andreu became one of Armstrong's many targets, calling her a liar, crazy and a "bitch."
In one of the more bizarre portions of the interview, Oprah asked Armstrong about Andreu and whether she was lying in her testimony about his doping admission in 1996. Armstrong replied "I'm not going to take that on. I'm laying down on that one. I'm going to put that one down. She asked me, and I asked her not to talk about it." He told Oprah that when he called Andreu to apologize he told her "'listen, I called you crazy. I called you a bitch. I called you all these things, but I never called you fat'."
Andreu told host Ahmed Shihab-Eldin that she didn't believe that Armstrong was being 100% truthful in his answers to Oprah. "Lance is a master manipulator of the media," Andreu told Ahmed, "and that's why all these years, he's gotten away with it. Look at how many people are now saying, 'Oh my gosh. I had no idea he was the cheat. I had no idea he was such a bully. I had no idea he was so mean.'"
 
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