Bloomberg ASL Interpreter Lydia Callis Mocked by Chelsea Handler, Gets Schooled

As to whether I am blind- how does one read a computer screen"?

I made NO comment on the skills/presentation of both interpreters re: Bloomberg speech/talk on CNN/CBC
 
drphil said:
I made NO comment on the skills/presentation of both interpreters re: Bloomberg speech/talk on CNN/CBC
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Good thing - since you don't know ASL.
I have no idea how you'd be able to provide any relevant "comments" on the quality, accuracy, NMCs etc of any signer or 'terp.
 
drphil said:
Whether the closed captioning was Bloomberg speaking or the interpreter "mouthing" unknown-both were "doing" at the same time?

A bit more to "ponder on ASL practice".
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The closed captions ALWAYS follow the speaker. The purpose of the CC is to provide a written form (hopefully verbatim) of what is being VOICED (as well as background sounds etc).

The interpreter's use of NMCs and providing speech-cues (MMs) for the ASL audience is NEVER something that would be captioned as they aren't part of the oral/voiced information.
 
As to whether Closed captioning can be "read" by an "ASL audience"-no comment.

The original comment noted -no facial expression by the ASL interpreters- still appears to me -is factual. Thus how one can "read body language etc" unexplained -unless "blank appearance" is in fact expressive in "ASL context"?

Given that there isn't much TV programmes with ASL - hardly an ongoing "problem" to "ponder subtle body/facial actions".
 
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Of course CC can be read by an ASL audience (I don't understand where that statement even came from?).

What I said was that the CC is provided for the speakers and for background sound information etc. ASL, while it does use NMCs and MMs isn't sounds based, so has no need for any CC.
The ASL interpreter would only be captioned if they spoke as part of their duties (ie if a signer asked a question & the 'terp voiced for them, that would be CC'd)
 
drphil said:
As to whether Closed captioning can be "read" by an "ASL audience"-no comment.
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What a weird statement. Yes, they can be read by anyone with a TV or video monitor that shows captions.

The original comment noted -no facial expression by the ASL interpreters- still appears to me -is factual. Thus how one can "read body language etc" unexplained -unless "blank appearance" is in fact expressive in "ASL context"?
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Either you have some kind of problem with reception or perception but the interpreter didn't have a blank appearance. Seriously, I understand that some people have problems with "reading" other people's facial expressions, and perhaps that's your problem. Regardless, you seem to be the only person who doesn't notice the interpreter's facial expressions, so I would honestly say the problem is with you.
 
I don't like Chelsea Handler much at all, but is what she was doing any different from Deaf people who mock hearing people by moving their lips in a funny way? Just wondering?
 
dkf747 said:
I don't like Chelsea Handler much at all, but is what she was doing any different from Deaf people who mock hearing people by moving their lips in a funny way? Just wondering?
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This was on TV, plus it was mocking a specific person by name, and mocking the whole interpreting sign language process. I don't know of a comparable example of what you mentioned. :dunno:
 
At the present time-whether I can "see" any ASL interpreter's "facial expressions" on TV-not exactly a" pressing/immediate concern"
To my knowledge there isn't any TV programmes televised-Toronto area-. that utilize ASL signing.
True elsewhere?
 
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drphil said:
As to whether I am blind- how does one read a computer screen"?

I made NO comment on the skills/presentation of both interpreters re: Bloomberg speech/talk on CNN/CBC
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Your ignorance here will land you in the same boat as Chelsea Handler if not careful.
 
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dkf747 said:
I don't like Chelsea Handler much at all, but is what she was doing any different from Deaf people who mock hearing people by moving their lips in a funny way? Just wondering?
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I saw that on YouTube - that was just black lash from the Deaf Community showing an example of what it would be like if the mocking was reversed. In my opinion there should be a public apology made nationwide and globally to the Deaf community/ies. Hopefully this will draw a genuine respect for Sign Language users. Mockers should be put to shame.
 
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I saw that on YouTube - that was just black lash from the Deaf Community showing an example of what it would be like if the mocking was reversed. In my opinion there should be a public apology made nationwide and globally to the Deaf community/ies. Hopefully this will draw a genuine respect for Sign Language users. Mockers should be put to shame.
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Saturday Night Live also did a skit.

saturday night live lydia callis interpreter - YouTube
 
JMH said:
Just watched the YouTube and I thought its funny. I don't know why deaf community were so outraged by that. They need to lighten up... :roll:
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who told you about deaf community were upset by that?
I m in the deaf community. I did laugh myelf but i understand how others feel. im mixed with it. eh. but i dont recall of the interpreter gets upset about it?
 
Reba said:
This was on TV, plus it was mocking a specific person by name, and mocking the whole interpreting sign language process. I don't know of a comparable example of what you mentioned. :dunno:
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Whether it was on TV or not, Deaf people do occasionally mock hearing people. I saw one on Deaf Nation the other day. The new vlog from a woman about lip reading. I loved it! It was hilarious! It was still mocking hearing people and their communication method, though. There many other examples out there. My point is, I did not like what Chelsea Handler did, but I just don't see what getting upset will accomplish. She insults all kinds of people. Apparently, people think it's funny. She gets paid to do it. She's not going to apologize for it.
 
dkf747 said:
Whether it was on TV or not, Deaf people do occasionally mock hearing people. I saw one on Deaf Nation the other day. The new vlog from a woman about lip reading. I loved it! It was hilarious! It was still mocking hearing people and their communication method, though. There many other examples out there.
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I didn't see the vlog that you reference, so I can't comment on it. If it was about lipreading, how does that mock hearing people? Generally, hearing people don't use lipreading as their communication method. Or do you mean Deaf people were mocking speech as a communication method? Without seeing it, I can't say if it's offensive or not.

My point is, I did not like what Chelsea Handler did, but I just don't see what getting upset will accomplish. She insults all kinds of people. Apparently, people think it's funny. She gets paid to do it. She's not going to apologize for it. I think most people only know about it because Deaf people are making an issue of it.
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I never even heard of Chelsea Handler prior to this video.
 
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