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airportcop said:
Unplanned, unwanted, not ready, inconvenience! No excuses in these cases which are the primary reasons. Act like and adult, be an adult! Grow up and take care of your baby or be responsible and adopt it out to someone that does want it!
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so if a churchgoer had an abortion because it was unplanned, unwanted, not ready, inconvenient.... then what? kick'em out? or support her in her "grief"?
 
Foxrac said:
Used to be but not anymore because many antidepressant and mood stabilizer drugs caused my IBS became very aggressive with terrible cramping, intense pain and diarrhea so it doesn't help with my behavior. The intense pain and cramping have caused me to consider to terminate my life to escape from pain.

After failed treatment, psychiatrist decided to not label bipolar disorder but rather to be underdiagnosed. Now, I'm free from any psychiatric drugs.

I don't dispute your claim about bipolar disorder is hereditary so I think it is possible too. It means I don't disagree with you.
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I'm sorry that you have health problems like IBS and bi-polar. I hope that you get better. My wife has IBS. Keep talking to your doctor and maybe there will be breakthroughs in new and different meds that will help. I do hope so. Do you mind if I pray for you privately?
 
Jiro said:
so if a churchgoer had an abortion because it was unplanned, unwanted, not ready, inconvenient.... then what? kick'em out? or support her in her "grief"?
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Definitely support her in grief. That is one of the purposes of the church. Not to condone or condemn the sin but to support those in need.
 
Jiro said:
ah... then you understand why abortion should remain legal otherwise... your churchgoer could die from back alley abortion with a coat hanger.
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Oh yup, my grandfather's father aborted one woman's fetus with coat hanger in 1960's and it was extremely SICK. This woman got pregnant due to failed sex protection and she didn't want baby at all.

Lucky, she wasn't died but very very painful.
 
airportcop said:
Definitely support her in grief. That is one of the purposes of the church. Not to condone or condemn the sin but to support those in need.
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that's great. very good to hear that.

so why support abortion ban? and condemn abortion as sin? and call us murderers/killers?
 
Jiro said:
then you must have misunderstood it. and of course.... you disagree and think I misunderstood it but it doesn't really matter anymore because it's still legal :)
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Yes it is still currently legal.....as I have already said many times. :)
 
airportcop said:
Unplanned, unwanted, not ready, inconvenience! No excuses in these cases which are the primary reasons. Act like and adult, be an adult! Grow up and take care of your baby or be responsible and adopt it out to someone that does want it!
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I'll ads to this.

Thinking with the organ between the legs.
 
Jiro said:
again - why do I care about that? that's not a good enough reason for me to trample over women's rights to privacy.
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Because post #224 was addressed to you. If you don't care about this one, why to you care about any other. Best stop posting because you don't care.
You are wasting your cold heart's time.
 
rolling7 said:
Because post #224 was addressed to you. If you don't care about this one, why to you care about any other. Best stop posting because you don't care.
You are wasting your cold heart's time.
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I only care about Constitution.
 
TXgolfer said:
Keep on trolling and making up BS. :lol:
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you gave a wrong reasoning for Roe v. Wade. It's actually about women's right to privacy... not to debate on legality of abortion.
 
airportcop said:
I'm sorry that you have health problems like IBS and bi-polar. I hope that you get better. My wife has IBS. Keep talking to your doctor and maybe there will be breakthroughs in new and different meds that will help. I do hope so. Do you mind if I pray for you privately?
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Yup, I don't mind if you pray for me what you want.

I believe in different connection with God. My life is secular but the religion for my spirits.
 
Jiro said:
that's great. very good to hear that.

so why support abortion ban? and condemn abortion as sin? and call us murderers/killers?
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Because in my mind and way of thinking it is wrong and killing an unborn baby and taking of an innocent life. There are lots of couples out there that would love to be able to adopt a healthy baby of any race or sex. It is the way I was raised and the way that I see as right. Many, many agree with me. I would like to see the stats that show years later how many women wish that they had not had an abortion!
 
Jiro said:
you gave a wrong reasoning for Roe v. Wade. It's actually about women's right to privacy... not to debate on legality of abortion.
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Oh yup, it seems like he won't answer my PM. :roll:

I'm going move on and forget about him.
 
I think it'd be easier for the govt to provide free surgical sterilization (that can be reversed at a later time) and the person be compensated for his volunteer sterilization with a few thousand bucks. That way the issue of abortion would hopefully be lessened and that govt won't have to end up paying billions and billions dollars a year to support welfare families with kids they weren't ready for.
 
airportcop said:
Because in my mind and way of thinking it is wrong and killing an unborn baby and taking of an innocent life.
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but.... I'm confused..... you are condemning now.

airportcop said:
There are lots of couples out there that would love to be able to adopt a healthy baby of any race or sex. It is the way I was raised and the way that I see as right. Many, many agree with me. I would like to see the stats that show years later how many women wish that they had not had an abortion!
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nobody forced them to have an abortion. it's ultimately their choice. This country is about free choice, right?
 
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