Child crying while CI being activated...

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Journey said:
So, sincere question here ... does every child who is implanted at an early age grow up unhappy with their parents decision to implant them?
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Think they will be more unhappy with with the oral upbringing that the majority of CI parents favor and many will wish the parents hadn't implanted them as a result.
 
Jiro said:
Let me help you understand something. We are not against CI or letting deafies hear/talk. We are simply against audist attitude.

This is the right question to ask us - "Is every deaf child disappointed with their parents' decision to not expose him/her to deaf culture and ASL because such thought of not being able to hear/talk is awful and crippling?"

My answer - yes.
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I like your post better than mine.
 
Journey said:
So, sincere question here ... does every child who is implanted at an early age grow up unhappy with their parents decision to implant them?
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On AD yes, in the real world of course not.
 
Not even universally true on AD. Baseballboy has said many times he is very glad his parents decided to implant him when he was very young. He was toddler age, I think.
 
dang! if I were to work as a repeater for repeating "we are not against CI/HA nor deafies learning to hear/talk. we are against audist attitude" message for 5 cents each, I'd be a millionaire in a few months.
 
CSign said:
I must have missed something. I thought Frankie hadn't yet been evaluated for a CI and that you didn't know if he was a candidate or not...
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his audiologist says that he is eligible..but then she will also say that since he is delayed they cant be too sure how much good it would do him.
but yes..i get this question almost every time i leave the house. i talked to this one girl who actually has one and she says she has to have sleeping pills because she gets ringing in her ears and headaches..but then ive talked to people that do great..there are too many risks for me. if he were older and able to ask for one then yes, i would research it with him and let him decide but not right now.
 
Starting to read all this at 6 am is really....enthralling.

Some people here have NO idea what they are talking about!

You know what I don't get.. Why is everybody going like: Oh, that kid wasn't really in pain, etc.
No one takes him seriously! Why not? Because he is a child?
Honestly, if my daughter plays with something she shouldn't have and I tell her no she throws a fit and starts crying. So just because it is okay for me, I can't expect her to deal with it in the same way. One thing about children: They are honest! If he says he is in pain in such a situation, no matter if it is "real" physical pain or not, the adults should listen to that and respond.
HE was in pain in that moment and that's that.
 
Beach girl said:
Not even universally true on AD. Baseballboy has said many times he is very glad his parents decided to implant him when he was very young. He was toddler age, I think.
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Let him speak for himself.
 
the adults should listen to that and respond.
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But they DID respond - they either turned the volume down or did some other
adjustments so the child could get more comfortable.

What did you wanted them to do - immediately rip the whole thing off his head?
start executing everyone involved?



Fuzzy
 
Audiofuzzy said:
But they DID respond - they either turned the volume down or did some other
adjustments so the child could get more comfortable.

What did you wanted them to do - immediately rip the whole thing off his head?
start executing everyone involved?



FuzzyBallSack
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Id like them to do that
 
Latascha said:
No one takes him seriously! Why not? Because he is a child?
Honestly, if my daughter plays with something she shouldn't have and I tell her no she throws a fit and starts crying.
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OMG! How dare you! That's CHILD ABUSE! Seriously.... obviously it's not child abuse, but that's the equivalent to what people on here are saying.

So tell us, what do you do when your daughter has a fit and starts crying because you won't let her play with something she shouldn't be? Do you let her keep playing?
 
Bon said:
OMG! How dare you! That's CHILD ABUSE! Seriously.... obviously it's not child abuse, but that's the equivalent to what people on here are saying.

So tell us, what do you do when your daughter has a fit and starts crying because you won't let her play with something she shouldn't be? Do you let her keep playing?
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Well, you know how the deaf are not as intelligent as the hearing. So you'll have to pardon them for not saying anything remotely intelligent at all.
 
Bon said:
OMG! How dare you! That's CHILD ABUSE! Seriously.... obviously it's not child abuse, but that's the equivalent to what people on here are saying.

So tell us, what do you do when your daughter has a fit and starts crying because you won't let her play with something she shouldn't be? Do you let her keep playing?
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Yes that's CHILD ABUSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Beach girl, I think you really don't get it. And that is not your fault, you just don't know because you were not deaf at that age and yes that makes a hell of a difference.

Audiofuzzy said:
But they DID respond - they either turned the volume down or did some other
adjustments so the child could get more comfortable.

What did you wanted them to do - immediately rip the whole thing off his head?
start executing everyone involved?



Fuzzy
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What I didn't want them to do was to smile. I mean, seriously??!
 
Latascha said:
Starting to read all this at 6 am is really....enthralling.

Some people here have NO idea what they are talking about!

You know what I don't get.. Why is everybody going like: Oh, that kid wasn't really in pain, etc.
No one takes him seriously! Why not? Because he is a child?
Honestly, if my daughter plays with something she shouldn't have and I tell her no she throws a fit and starts crying. So just because it is okay for me, I can't expect her to deal with it in the same way. One thing about children: They are honest! If he says he is in pain in such a situation, no matter if it is "real" physical pain or not, the adults should listen to that and respond.
HE was in pain in that moment and that's that.
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I'm late to the thread but I find some of the adults' reactions to the boy in the video confusing and surprising also. I think most kids know when they are in pain. They know the difference between not liking something, or feeling weird or scared, or being in pain and can communicate that.

Especially the boy in the video, I bet he was around 4 or 5 years old. He was old enough to know these basic feelings, and to be able to express them. It's difficult to tell from only 23 seconds of film, but it doesn't seem like anyone was trying to sign with the boy and ask him about his reactions. The adults only seemed to be talking about him, but not with him. He was old enough that I think someone could have been communicating with him. Instead the only direct contact was when the woman in the video (I don't know who she was) was rubbing his back while he was signing that the CI hurt.

We are only seeing a 23 second snippet of what happened. For the boy's sake, I hope he was only in pain because the sound was too loud and not because of a malfunctioning CI, or a bacterial infection. And if so, hopefully, the audiologist lowered the amplification.

IMHO because a CI is not always successfu, I've thought it would probably be best to wait until the child is old enough to be able to communicate before giving them the implant. Old enough to communicate in case there are any problems with the implant which while rare apparantly isn't that rare, yet young enough to get the benefits of learning how to speak while still in the sweet spot for acquiring language -- IMHO that is the preferable option.

No doubt I'm in a minority. Many parents seem to want to implant their children before 1 year of age and I'm guessing many other adults, including Deaf adults, want to want until the child is much older before allowing them to decide for themself if they should get the implant.
 
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But they DID respond - they either turned the volume down or did some other
adjustments so the child could get more comfortable.

What did you wanted them to do - immediately rip the whole thing off his head?
start executing everyone involved?



FuzzyBallSack

Id like them to do that
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Post from hell -
may I suggest you observe All Deaf rules and etiquette and do not insult
other members.


Fuzzy
 
Latascha said:
Beach girl, I think you really don't get it. And that is not your fault, you just don't know because you were not deaf at that age and yes that makes a hell of a difference.
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I concur with your point.
 
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