Declaration of Occupy Wall Street

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jillio said:
Exactly. They should have been calling for an ambulance instead of firing flash grenades at the people coming to his aid.
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Police aren't going to send EMTs into chaos.....They control the scene first. That is standard ops
 
TXgolfer said:
EMTs were right there behind the front line. He was removed before they got control of the crowd. That is clear in the video as well.
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And they stayed behind the front line. They could have gotten there as quickly as any of the bystanders could have. When they saw him being carried away, there should have been an ambulance available right then to load him.
 
TXgolfer said:
Police aren't going to send EMTs into chaos.....They control the scene first. That is standard ops
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Sacrifice the innocent citizen. What happened to that oath that is taken to "protect and serve"?
 
jillio said:
Sacrifice the innocent citizen. What happened to that oath that is taken to "protect and serve"?
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Or maybe it's because their purpose is to actually keep the 99% at bay and to serve the 1% as some attest.
 
deafskeptic said:
Or maybe it's because their purpose is to actually keep the 99% at bay and to serve the 1% as some attest.
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They failed to serve even the 1% in this incident. But you are absolutely correct. It is all about exerting social control. Oh well if someone is critically injured unnecessarily in the process. Don't let those radical hippie protesters have their say. People might see the truth.
 
jillio said:
Maybe a bird grabbed a canister out of the air and dropped it on him when he was looking up.:roll: Looking up does not mean he was not hit from the front, nor does looking to the left or right. Unless he can rotate his head all the way around like an owl can he could not have had the back of his head toward the police. If you look close enough in the video, you can see he is facing forward when he goes down. You can also see the canister being lobbed from police lines immediately prior to him going down.
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I'm pretty sure all it takes for a face to be struck is for the face to be turned toward the object. I don't think an object decides to curve around to the side of the head just because the body isn't turned as well. :giggle:

We don't even know that he didn't turn his entire body at some point. He isn't on camera the entire time. At :56 it appears something caught his attention to the right and then we are blocked by a photo. Do you have any proof that he didn't turn completely to the right?

If so I would love to see it. If not you are only speculating
 
jillio said:
Sacrifice the innocent citizen. What happened to that oath that is taken to "protect and serve"?
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:dunno: If you want EMTs to enter a riot I guess you could write your congressman
 
TXgolfer said:
I'm pretty sure all it takes for a face to be struck is for the face to be turned toward the object. I don't think an object decides to curve around to the side of the head just because the body isn't turned as well. :giggle:

We don't even know that he didn't turn his entire body at some point. He isn't on camera the entire time. At :56 it appears something caught his attention to the right and then we are blocked by a photo. Do you have any proof that he didn't turn completely to the right?

If so I would love to see it. If not you are only speculating
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He wasn't bitch slapped, TxGolfer. He was hit with sufficient impact to fracture his skull.

If his body had been turned away, he would not have injuries in the location that he has them. Time sequence. Even if he turned to the right at that point, it wasn't in direct time relation to when he went down.
 
jillio said:
Sacrifice the innocent citizen. What happened to that oath that is taken to "protect and serve"?
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Oh and innocent. Perhaps you forgot he was breaking the law just by standing there.
 
TXgolfer said:
:dunno: If you want EMTs to enter a riot I guess you could write your congressman
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What riot? A man laying on the ground bleeding profusely from the head and people trying to help him is not a riot. They were in front of the barrier.:roll:

And yeah, when a man is laying on the ground bleeding profusely, the EMTs should have gone in immediately. And a flash grenade and an additional tear gas canister sure as hell didn't need to be thrown into the area.
 
TXgolfer said:
Oh and innocent. Perhaps you forgot he was breaking the law just by standing there.
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OMG! He was standing there! What a threat he was posing! No wonder the cops were so scared that they had to exert excessive force.:roll:
 
jillio said:
What riot? A man laying on the ground bleeding profusely from the head and people trying to help him is not a riot. They were in front of the barrier.:roll:

And yeah, when a man is laying on the ground bleeding profusely, the EMTs should have gone in immediately. And a flash grenade and an additional tear gas canister sure as hell didn't need to be thrown into the area.
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The Oakland protest was going peacefully till the tear gas and flash grenade got lobbied into the protesters. As for the canister being lobbied back, it's possible that it bounded off Scott's head.
 
jillio said:
He wasn't bitch slapped, TxGolfer. He was hit with sufficient impact to fracture his skull.

If his body had been turned away, he would not have injuries in the location that he has them. Time sequence. Even if he turned to the right at that point, it wasn't in direct time relation to when he went down.
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Again that's just speculation. We may as well just move on unless you have proof. Hopefully we will have an official answer soon.

If it's found that the police INTENTIONALLY shot him in the face I hope they are held accountable
 
deafskeptic said:
The Oakland protest was going peacefully till the tear gas and flash grenade got lobbied into the protesters. As for the canister being lobbied back, it's possible that it bounded off Scott's head.
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It is possible, but not probable. It was lobbed from in back of him.
 
TXgolfer said:
Again that's just speculation. We may as well just move on unless you have proof. Hopefully we will have an official answer soon.

If it's found that the police INTENTIONALLY shot him in the face I hope they are held accountable
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It is not speculation. It is human physiology.:roll:
 
deafskeptic said:
The Oakland protest was going peacefully till the tear gas and flash grenade got lobbied into the protesters.
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You have proof of that? You were there and saw that no rocks or bottles were thrown as was reported?

As for the canister being lobbied back, it's possible that it bounded off Scott's head.
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jillio said:
It is possible, but not probable. It was lobbed from in back of him.
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:52.....that is only possible :lol:
 
jillio said:
It is not speculation. It is human physiology.:roll:
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Again I would love to see your proof. Fact is we have no idea which way he is facing when he is struck because we don't see him being struck. All we have is guesses. And I'm not even bothering to guess. I will wait for evidence.
 
Intent is not required. Criminal negligence will do.
 
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