Utah Board ponders closing schools for deaf, blind

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Board ponders closing schools for deaf, blind | The Salt Lake Tribune

Eliminating the Utah Schools for the Deaf and the Blind and putting more earnings from school trust lands toward education are among ideas the state school board might soon suggest to the governor and lawmakers.

The state school board voted Friday on a list of possible cuts to discuss with state leaders, should cuts be necessary. If they are, the state board voted to first recommend slashing about $20 million from programs that include adult education, school nursing and a performance-pay pilot program for teachers, among others.

If further cuts are necessary, they voted to then consider eliminating the Utah Schools for the Deaf and the Blind (USDB), which would mean local school districts would have to provide those services to deaf and blind students.

If even more budget reductions are needed, the board voted to consider recommending that $20 million worth of interest and dividends from the permanent State School Fund, which would normally be reinvested, be used instead to fund schools. The fund is generated from trust lands throughout the state.

Board members don’t want cuts made to regional service centers which help rural districts; school busing; and a statewide K-3 reading program, among other things that might otherwise be on the chopping block.

The board plans to revisit the ideas, which were described as closer to brainstorming than solid recommendations, at its next meeting Thursday. The discussion and votes were a response to a request for input from the Governor’s Office of Planning and Budget.

“We don’t like or want any of these,” said Debra Roberts, board chairwoman.

USDB superintendent Steven Noyce said eliminating USDB, which serves about 2,000 children statewide, would be a “gigantic mistake.” He said he doesn’t think that would save money as school districts would still have to serve those students.

“It’s not like the districts can absorb those costs,” Noyce said. “They don’t have the resources to start providing those services.”

Roberts said the board would have to further study the option to see if eliminating USDB would save money or not.
 
They don’t have the resources to start providing those services.”
You think? The thing is, the BOE is thinking " Oh just lump them in with special ed. No reason that there needs to be specialized programming." That is the mistake that a lot of lawmakers made..............Yes, there are some kids who can do well with a minimal accomodnations approach.....but too too many kids fall through the cracks in the mainstream.
 
Isn't this the same state that was considering eliminating 12th grade?
 
Well, more money will be spent on trying to meet the deaf children's needs in so many different places.
 
True.......at least the Utah Schools for the Deaf and Blind aren't a tradtional deaf blind school. They DO have a residental homebase, but from what I understand from looking at their page, most kids are in self contained classrooms in mainstream schools.
 
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the residential school is located in a smaller city, about 45 minutes from the population center. The bi-bi day school is in salt lake, where 75% of the state's population is. It is a completely self contained school. They also have two oral programs located in mainstream schools.
 
the residential school is located in a smaller city, about 45 minutes from the population center. The bi-bi day school is in salt lake, where 75% of the state's population is. It is a completely self contained school. They also have two oral programs located in mainstream schools.
And the residental school is prolly rather small right? I seem to recall you saying that there was a TC program. Is that at the residental school?
 
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TC program was absorbed by the bi-bi school a few years ago.

the residential school is pretty small, even their day program. The bi-bi school had less than 40 students from pre-k through 9th grade. Average class size is 3.
 
Well, more money will be spent on trying to meet the deaf children's needs in so many different places.

No doubt. And then look at the money that will be spent trying to meet their needs after the school system messes them up.:cool2:
 
No doubt. And then look at the money that will be spent trying to meet their needs after the school system messes them up
Ditto. The simple fact of the matter is that mainstreaming is too one size fits all. Also too many kids do just decently early on, and then hit the fourth grade glass ceiling.
And you know......something I just realized about this sitution. You know how I've mentioned that maybe kids who are in schools that are really bad educationally even for hearing kids,(meaning inner city or Appalachian or pick whatever stereotypical really bad educational placement) might be better off at a school for the deaf........I mean if the hearing on par kids are getting a crappy education, then why would a dhh or other disabled kid get a good education there? Here we have an entire state looking to get rid of 12th grade. Why is it that parents think that their disabled kid will get a "good" education in that type of setting?
Also, faire joure, overall it is pretty rare for state Deaf Schools to offer oral only graded programming. Most state deaf schools, if they offer oral only,(NOT oracy development) usually only offer oral preschool. They don't offer grade 1-6 (they did in the old days when they offered an oral track and a signing track) There ARE public school programs which go up to sixth grade yes......
 
Also, this set up is going to be a really great receipe for just dhh kids ending up in life skills classrooms......the deaf school prolly won't even have good early intervention....the kids will be lumped in with general early intervention.
Although the Utah Schools for the Deaf and Blind wasn't huge in campus/classroom size, it was still a better resource then public school.
 
Doesn't it seem like a lot of calls to close deaf/specialized schools come when there's a recession? There have been a few schools that have dwindled down to nothing (eg Wyoming School for the Deaf....not sure of any others)
but I was reading up on Oregon School for the Blind ( now closed) and someone in the comments section said that there were calls to close it as long ago as the '70's.
 
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