U.N. farce on human rights recommendation to U.S.

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Amazing how those dogs were still running at the same pace after over 4 minutes of video....what was the point of this? Run them to death? Anyone know?

Coursing. It's not like greyhound racing since the ones used for racing are bred for speed, not endurance. They use sighthounds in Africa and Middle East to chase and corner gazelles. I think in Afghanistan and Pakistan, they still hunt gazelles with hounds for food.

I think out here, in North America, they call them "lurchers" (crossbred between a terrier or a sheepdog with a sighthound) for chasing deer and rabbits. The Brits called them "longdogs" (crossbred between two types of sighthounds.) You can tell I came from a hunting slash dog family, eh? :D

Only blood-sports I approve of nowadays is vermin-hunting, which was my dog's job (although he can do birding as well.)
 
Coursing. It's not like greyhound racing since the ones used for racing are bred for speed, not endurance. They use sighthounds in Africa and Middle East to chase and corner gazelles. I think in Afghanistan and Pakistan, they still hunt gazelles with hounds for food.

I think out here, in North America, they call them "lurchers" (crossbred between a terrier or a sheepdog with a sighthound) for chasing deer and rabbits. The Brits called them "longdogs" (crossbred between two types of sighthounds.) You can tell I came from a hunting slash dog family, eh? :D

Only blood-sports I approve of nowadays is vermin-hunting, which was my dog's job (although he can do birding as well.)

Thanks, Souggy, that was very enlightening information!
 
Thank you for proving my point: they can't use force during a peace-keeping operation; they need to be as neutral as the Cayman Islands. It's only during peace-making operations they are allowed to flex their muscles.

Yet, they can use force when needed. I was actually hoping you'd use that link I provided to find that out.

Article 43

1. All Members of the United Nations, in order to contribute to the maintenance of international peace and security, undertake to make available to the Security Council, on its call and in accordance with a special agreement or agreements, armed forces, assistance, and facilities, including rights of passage, necessary for the purpose of maintaining international peace and security.
2. Such agreement or agreements shall govern the numbers and types of forces, their degree of readiness and general location, and the nature of the facilities and assistance to be provided.
3. The agreement or agreements shall be negotiated as soon as possible on the initiative of the Security Council. They shall be concluded between the Security Council and Members or between the Security Council and groups of Members and shall be subject to ratification by the signatory states in accordance with their respective constitutional processes.

Article 44

When the Security Council has decided to use force it shall, before calling upon a Member not represented on it to provide armed forces in fulfilment of the obligations assumed under Article 43, invite that Member, if the Member so desires, to participate in the decisions of the Security Council concerning the employment of contingents of that Member's armed forces.
Article 45

In order to enable the United Nations to take urgent military measures, Members shall hold immediately available national air-force contingents for combined international enforcement action. The strength and degree of readiness of these contingents and plans for their combined action shall be determined within the limits laid down in the special agreement or agreements referred to in Article 43, by the Security Council with the assistance of the Military Staff Committee.
Article 46

Plans for the application of armed force shall be made by the Security Council with the assistance of the Military Staff Committee.
Article 47

1. There shall be established a Military Staff Committee to advise and assist the Security Council on all questions relating to the Security Council's military requirements for the maintenance of international peace and security, the employment and command of forces placed at its disposal, the regulation of armaments, and possible disarmament.
2. The Military Staff Committee shall consist of the Chiefs of Staff of the permanent members of the Security Council or their representatives. Any Member of the United Nations not permanently represented on the Committee shall be invited by the Committee to be associated with it when the efficient discharge of the Committee's responsibilities requires the participation of that Member in its work.
3. The Military Staff Committee shall be responsible under the Security Council for the strategic direction of any armed forces placed at the disposal of the Security Council. Questions relating to the command of such forces shall be worked out subsequently.
4. The Military Staff Committee, with the authorization of the Security Council and after consultation with appropriate regional agencies, may establish regional sub-committees.

Article 48

1. The action required to carry out the decisions of the Security Council for the maintenance of international peace and security shall be taken by all the Members of the United Nations or by some of them, as the Security Council may determine.
2. Such decisions shall be carried out by the Members of the United Nations directly and through their action in the appropriate international agencies of which they are members.

Article 49

The Members of the United Nations shall join in affording mutual assistance in carrying out the measures decided upon by the Security Council.
Article 50

If preventive or enforcement measures against any state are taken by the Security Council, any other state, whether a Member of the United Nations or not, which finds itself confronted with special economic problems arising from the carrying out of those measures shall have the right to consult the Security Council with regard to a solution of those problems.
Article 51

Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.

Charter of the United Nations: Chapter VII: Action with Respect to Threats to the Peace, Breaches of the Peace and Acts of Agression

Maybe you missed those UN's tanks and those blue hatted soldiers with their rifles? Maybe they only carry blanks and not live rounds?
 
Yet, they can use force when needed. I was actually hoping you'd use that link I provided to find that out.



Charter of the United Nations: Chapter VII: Action with Respect to Threats to the Peace, Breaches of the Peace and Acts of Agression

Maybe you missed those UN's tanks and those blue hatted soldiers with their rifles? Maybe they only carry blanks and not live rounds?

exactly. they can't really engage as easily as the American military. their ROE is extraordinary limited. If you think it's that clear cut case where they can shoot back only if they got shot at... you're sorely mistaken.

Don't forget - UN consists of multinational troops. Their own countries have their own ROE and political viewpoints. They do not have the American's ROE style. Their country is free to retract back their own troops out of UN to avoid the backlash in case of armed conflict.
 
exactly. they can't really engage as easily as the American military. their ROE is extraordinary limited. If you think it's that clear cut case where they can shoot back only if they got shot at... you're sorely mistaken.

Don't forget - UN consists of multinational troops. Their own countries have their own ROE and political viewpoints. They do not have the American's ROE style. Their country is free to retract back their own troops out of UN to avoid the backlash in case of armed conflict.

Self-defense is different from using "necessary force" in a neutral organization.

I would call counter-invading Iraq after Kuwait "necessary" or counter-attacking North Korea "necessary." I wouldn't call taking side in a Vietnamese civil war "necessary."
 
Self-defense is different from using "necessary force" in a neutral organization.

I would call counter-invading Iraq after Kuwait "necessary" or counter-attacking North Korea "necessary." I wouldn't call taking side in a Vietnamese civil war "necessary."

Yet, they do have to decide on the "use of force."
 
If the UN is to accept multiculturalism and avoid ethnocentrism, then it can't promote worldwide human rights because there is no one worldwide standard for human rights.

One achieves multiculturalism and avoids ethnocentrism by promoting human rights based on the culture with which one is dealing. But multiculturalism and ethnocentrism are two different concepts. One has to do with lack of knowledge and experience, the other with self bias.
 
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