Mom outraged at school program providing birth control for daughter

netrox said:
No matter how liberal or conservative you are, you WILL NEVER get full information from your kids. Honestly, did you tell your parents everything you do? If you do, you're pathetic.

Sex education should be mandatory in schools. Studies have shown over and over - no matter how liberal or conservative you are - most kids say that their parents never taught them about sex.

Learn to accept that your own kids are growing and sexually maturing and that many don't WANT you to know that. If they got BC, accept it. Hands off. I know you don't like it but back off. Don't argue with them. Tell them that BC doesn't prevent STD's and that it carries potential side effects and that they'd be happier if they just abstain.
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(ignoring your pathetic comment :lol:),

I agree with you. Sex education should be mandatory in most schools. But, I think what some of us are saying is that if you have good communication with your child, there should be no problem. But, again, you're right. In most cases that's not happening and kids will do what kids will do; regardless.

What I find upsetting is not that the kid had sex. What is upsetting to me is that the report indicated that she went to someone who took it upon themselves to get her medical care. This should have been a parent's responsibility; not this woman's.
 
jillio said:
I suppose this mother would rather her daughter get pregnant at 14.

BTW: this story is a little suspect. They can't dispense medications at any time without a parent's signed permission. They can however, provide information so the student can take action on their own.
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I think that is a bit reactionary. The way I read the article, the mother and daughter had pretty good communication. That's how it came out that the girl was taken to get Depo-provera. The woman has a right to be incensed. I know I would be. As for your second pt, that maybe true, but I have a question. Assuming what you just said is fact, could there be a state law on the books to supercede that?
 
Oceanbreeze said:
Me too! Because, I was an honest kid and my parents knew exactly where I was at all times.
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Me three.......Even called them once when I had been drinking.....NYE party.... They came and picked me up. No consequences. They were happy I called.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
I think that is a bit reactionary. The way I read the article, the mother and daughter had pretty good communication. That's how it came out that the girl was taken to get Depo-provera. The woman has a right to be incensed. I know I would be. As for your second pt, that maybe true, but I have a question. Assuming what you just said is fact, could there be a state law on the books to supercede that?
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If they had such good communication, why did the daughter find it necessary to get birth control without her mother's knowledge?

Parents tend to believe that they have better communication with their kids, or that their kids tell them "everything." It is rarely as good as the parent believes when you ask the kid.

And again, it is illegal to dispense meds to a 14 year old without the parent's permission.
 
Reba said:
Obviously you didn't read the whole article or you would know that the mother was going to take her daughter to the doctor herself to get birth control for her.



Again, you don't know what you're talking about.

This happened, and not only once.

This was a local event, and I've been following the radio and TV coverage and interviews that go along with the print story. Those school and other officials who were involved do not deny anything that happened. They believe they were right in what they did.
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Very easy to say "I was going to..." after the fact. The point is, she hadn't. And yes, I read the whole article. Re: the interviews...you'll get the same information when you are talking to the same people. And keep in mind that transportation was the only service provided by the school. A clinic or a physician would have had to administer the meds.

And, I do what I'm talking about, although that seems to be a standard reply when someone points out inconsistencies in a story you posted.
 
jillio said:
If they had such good communication, why did the daughter find it necessary to get birth control without her mother's knowledge?

Parents tend to believe that they have better communication with their kids, or that their kids tell them "everything." It is rarely as good as the parent believes when you ask the kid.

And again, it is illegal to dispense meds to a 14 year old without the parent's permission.
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I'm just going by what I read. The article indicated that the child told her Mother what happened. That suggests to me that the kid and Mom had some communication going on. I agree with you that kids don't tell their parents everything. It's unrealistic to suggest that, but in this case, it appears that the child had enough communication with her Mother and told her about the incident.

I also agree with you that it's illegal to dispense meds to underage kids. Therefore, the woman who took the child to get the Depo-provera was way over the line in doing so and the Mother has every right to be upset about it.
 
well, what if the kids absolutely do not have a good communication with their parents, and somehow the kids started to get involved with sexual activities?

What if the kids need BC but can't feel compelled to tell their parents about their sexual activities?
 
jillio said:
...And again, it is illegal to dispense meds to a 14 year old without the parent's permission.
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"State law allows health services for minors without parental consent, although contraceptives may not be distributed at schools."
WCIV-TV: News, Weather and Sports for Charleston, SC - Mom upset about birth control program

Contraceptives can't be distributed at school--that's why they drove her from the school to the clinic off school grounds.

The dispute isn't about what the clinic did. The mom's lawyer's charge is that if it isn't legal to dispense contraceptives at the school, then it wasn't legal to drive the girl from the school to the clinic.
 
jillio said:
And, I do what I'm talking about, although that seems to be a standard reply when someone points out inconsistencies in a story you posted.
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So you know South Carolina law?

Nope.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
I'm just going by what I read. The article indicated that the child told her Mother what happened. That suggests to me that the kid and Mom had some communication going on. I agree with you that kids don't tell their parents everything. It's unrealistic to suggest that, but in this case, it appears that the child had enough communication with her Mother and told her about the incident.

I also agree with you that it's illegal to dispense meds to underage kids. Therefore, the woman who took the child to get the Depo-provera was way over the line in doing so and the Mother has every right to be upset about it.
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Actually, the doctor that administered the meds is the one that crossed the line legally. Providing transportation to a clinic is not illegal.

I still question why the child decided to go with the person who transported her, rather than wait for her mother to take her, if the mother had already agreed to provide birth control.

I can't say whether the story is accurate or not. But I just see a lot of inconsistency between what was said, and what was actually done.
 
Reba said:
"State law allows health services for minors without parental consent, although contraceptives may not be distributed at schools."
WCIV-TV: News, Weather and Sports for Charleston, SC - Mom upset about birth control program

Contraceptives can't be distributed at school--that's why they drove her from the school to the clinic off school grounds.

The dispute isn't about what the clinic did. The mom's lawyer's charge is that if it isn't legal to dispense contraceptives at the school, then it wasn't legal to drive the girl from the school to the clinic.
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Providing trasportation is just that. Dispensing meds is another situation. The school didn't dispense. Be interesting to see how the courts decide. If the child took a cab, would the cab driver be responsible? How about a public bus? Would the bus company be responsible? What about the child herself. Did she get in the car voluntarily and accept the offer of a ride to the clinic. What about requesting the shot once she got to the clinic. Was she forced to do that, or did she do it voluntarily?
 
jillio said:
Actually, the doctor that administered the meds is the one that crossed the line legally. Providing transportation to a clinic is not illegal.
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Are you a lawyer? Do you practice in South Carolina?

I still question why the child decided to go with the person who transported her, rather than wait for her mother to take her, if the mother had already agreed to provide birth control.
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Didn't you read the part about her friends?
 
jillio said:
How could you possibly know what I know? Don't make assumptions. Are you a lawyer?
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You obviously don't know South Carolina law or you wouldn't be making erroneous statements about said law.

I'm not a lawyer but I listened to the lawyers and officials involved in the case discuss it, and their explanations of the state law.
 
Reba said:
Are you a lawyer? Do you practice in South Carolina?


Didn't you read the part about her friends?
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Yes, I did read the parts about her friends. And I am not a lawyer nor do I have any intent in being one. But then, I do tend to look at situations from all sides, rather than selectively.
 
jillio said:
Yes, I did read the parts about her friends. And I am not a lawyer nor do I have any intent in being one. But then, I do tend to look at situations from all sides, rather than selectively.
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That's fine but you can't ignore the laws that are in place when you evaluate a situation.
 
States that require consent before a minor may have an abortion include Alabama, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Wisconsin and Wyoming. States requiring notification before a minor's abortion include Arkansas, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Maryland, Minnesota, Nebraska, Ohio, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Virginia and West Virginia.

Also, because the Supreme Court rulings, states that do not explicitly allow minors to obtain contraceptive and prenatal care services without parental consent still must permit this to happen in practice, as the court has ruled that these are services that are covered by the minors' right to privacy. However, states can still impose limitations on minors' ability to obtain these services, based on factors such as age, marriage status, medical condition or who referred the minors for treatment. In addition, two states—Utah and Texas—prohibit the use of state funds to provide contraceptive services to minors without parental consent.
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Treatment Of Minors: Encyclopedia of Everyday Law

This is what I have found so far... can anybody provide the specific state law concerning this type of situation?
 
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