Wiretap Charges Tossed in Videotaping of Trooper

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This charge should have never happened to begin with. Cops are public servants, therefore civilians have the right to videotape them because the cops are paid by taxpayers. We have a right to know whether or not their performances meets the conduct and guidelines as law enforcement officers.

To the cops themselves, they hate being videotaped because they can't get away with committing a crime while wearing a badge.

Meanwhile, this idiot who videotaped himself riding his motorbike going at excessive speeds on a major highway, he was rightly charged of reckless driving.

But otoh, when a off duty, plains clothed State Trooper pulled up in front of the biker, pulled out his handgun and ordered him to shut off his bike for 5 seconds before he finally identified himself as a State Police Officer. That's a violation of the guidelines. He should have identified himself as a police officer the second he stepped out of his personal vehicle before barking orders to shut the bike off.

The biker thought for 5 seconds he's was being robbed or his bike was in the process of being jacked. Who would think he's an officer in plains clothes, driving a non-uniformed vehicle right there on the spot?

After he posted his video on YouTube, the Officer's conduct with pulling his weapon out and not identifying himself for 5 seconds after getting out of his vehicle went viral, news agencies, bloggers, forums and so on was debating the officer's conduct.

Then, the same officer arrested the biker and charged him with violating the wiretapping laws, he was facing 16 years in prison if the charge followed through.

Something smells "retaliation" to me.

Eventually the Judge's common sense prevailed for the defendant (rarely we see Judges, even Police Officer exercise common sense these days) and threw out the charges against him, except one. The charge of reckless driving stuck. So the biker will have to deal with that.

Wiretap Charges Tossed in Videotaping of Trooper

As mentioned before, the cops hates being videotaped. For good reasons, many Officers have been suspended, fired, & sued for conducts unbecoming of an officer.

Here's some examples...

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Police+Brutality&aq=f

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUkiyBVytRQ[/ame]
This cop got fired after he falsely charged him with assaulting an officer, stating he purposely ran into the officer. Then the video comes out on YT showing otherwise.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A0n2qMxf0c[/ame]
This College Student was charged for assaulting an officer whereas this video shows otherwise. He was ganged up, severally beaten and kicked.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_gFJJXLv28[/ame]
No way that an officer beat on a person's face to get them to comply. The head may be hard, but still, one punch at a weak spot, you could very well kill the person.

There's tons and tons of videos showing police beatings and so on, with a result of many officers still on the job and very few being fired. Even Jail Officers are beating people up, even teenagers..

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG5yuaXtYDs[/ame]
This girl was told to take her shoes off, she complies, then the officer didn't like the way she flipped her shoe off and shoved her. He slammed her head against the wall, grabbed her hair and threw her to the floor, banging her head against the floor and viciously handcuffed her, then grabbed her hair to pull her up. As far as I know his trial is still pending. He even asked the Judge to force all websites to remove the videos showing him beating a 15 year old, the Judge denied his request.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8luYrJZGlC8]YouTube - police turn off camera then beat woman sensless[/ame]
This Jail officer turned off the camera and beats her face black and blue and then turns the camera back on to show her being bloodied on the floor.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAGb7_g4Aso[/ame]
This paraplegic gets dumped from the wheelchair by a Jail Officer because she refused to believe he's paraplegic from the midsection down. She got fired.

This is an ongoing and widespread problem from Police Officers to Jail Officers abusing the system. I can go on and on about this problem, do your own research and come up with your own conclusion.

Bottom line is this, many officers are asking lawmakers to pass laws to protect their own from being videotaped. Too many are getting caught, fired, suspended and even arrested for abusing the badge. Cams are making officers nervous and they'll do anything to put a stop to it or even retaliate against them in any way, shape and form.

Why so many bad officers out there? The underlying reason is the change of hiring procedures enforced by the Department of Justice in the 1990s....

DOJ forces Police, Firefighters and Municipal Agencies to dumb down employment tests, practice reverse discrimination.

Since the change, more and more corrupted individuals are being sworn in as officers and hired as Jail officers.

This change needs to be reversed. In this day and age, individuals with an high IQ are being turned down when they submit their applications to be an officer. The reason for the turndown? They claim that people who are very smart gets bored with the job and quit. (Yeah, right).

It is in my opinion that the reason they turn down smart people is because they don't want them to wise up on the corrupt conducts while on the job and get them fired and or arrested and jailed.

You may think the problem is small, it's not. Don't just take my word for it, do your own research, it's alot bigger than we think. Let's not forget the many conducts that went unreported or hasn't gotten caught (yet).

Yiz
 
posts from hell said:
We were talking about the bike guy on youtube... Wasn't Jiro siding with the cop?
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I couldn't find the thread tho...I knew it's here somewhere.

Jiro is siding on one thing, excessive speeding and reckless driving. But to have an officer NOT identify themselves the very second he steps out of the car is against guidelines, they have to identify themselves for good reasons and I can only think of one of them...

1.) To avoid being mistaken as a burglar or someone conducting a criminal act, thus eliminating the possibility of being shot as they enter the premises .

Most people know better than to shoot a cop, but, people (or criminals for that matter) don't wanna get shot either, the second they hear the door break open, their first instinct is to reach for a weapon, but if they hear shouts "NYPD! SEARCH WARRENT! GET DOWN ON THE FLOOR!" They immediately hit the floor to avoid being shot or tasered. At least for the most majority of them. Some get real stupid, the result isn't very pleasant.

So with that, if say, someone broke into my house and if I don't "hear" an identification right off that bat, my natural instincts out of fear would have to assume that my house is being robbed, therefore it's only natural that I want to defend myself, my home and my wife.

Yiz
 
yizuman said:
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first of all - this thread is about motorcyclist's videotaping of off-duty cop pulling gun on him. all other videos in your post were unnecessary and irrelevant. It serves no purpose except to flame your "Fuck The Cops" agenda.

I am aware of dozens cases of police intimidation and shame on them for acting like they're above the law but I have a serious problem with the "Fuck-The-Cop" attitude. It is not conducive to yourself and the community especially the people you represent. With that attitude - you're making it worse for all of us law-abiding citizens. You're giving them more and more reasons for them to act like vindicative asshole by making their jobs more difficult.

Be above them by acting like empowered law-abiding citizen. In the end - they will lose their badge and gun because people like them are unfit for peace-keeping role.
 
Jiro said:
first of all - this thread is about motorcyclist's videotaping of off-duty cop pulling gun on him. all other videos in your post were unnecessary and irrelevant. It serves no purpose except to flame your "Fuck The Cops" agenda.

I am aware of dozens cases of police intimidation and shame on them for acting like they're above the law but I have a serious problem with the "Fuck-The-Cop" attitude. It is not conducive to yourself and the community especially the people you represent. With that attitude - you're making it worse for all of us law-abiding citizens. You're giving them more and more reasons for them to act like vindicative asshole by making their jobs more difficult.

Be above them by acting like empowered law-abiding citizen. In the end - they will lose their badge and gun because people like them are unfit for peace-keeping role.
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Let's just say for the argument that your "assumption" is correct, how do you figure I have a "fuck a cop" attitude?

From your perspective, I'm sure without a doubt, have read many negative connotations towards police officers over the period of time. But does that mean you "have" to brand all negativism toward police misconduct as a 'fuck a cop" attitude? Does this include victims, news media outlets and so forth?

My perspective is that I am noticing a growing trend of officers conducting themselves unbecoming of an officer. This isn't an isolated case, it's also not secluding in just the states alone, it's happening world wide.

People who are given the power of authority and the means to enforce it are expected to conduct themselves at a level of trust. Those that abuse it, no doubt makes the rest of them look bad, very bad. The level of trust becomes a shadow of doubt for all those that encounter those that are entrusted with that authority, making their jobs that much harder.

You're assuming that I am lumping all cops as being abusive, I on the other hand disagree with that assessment. I do not believe that all who are entrusted with authority to be abusing it.

Like you, we're both alarmed by what we're seeing and reading, but from an opposite side of perspective.

I see a growing trend that is becoming a problem. You're seeing a growing trend of negativism that instills a an alarming concern how this effects good officers.

But we come to an common ground that bad cops deserves to lose their badge and gun on account of their misconduct.

Do you really believe that people who videotape cops conducting criminal acts as "vindicative assholes" as you put it?

I don't see it that way, personally, I see it as a "check & balances". Without that, almost anybody who are empowered with authority can get away with committing criminal acts. That includes not just police officers, but anyone in general, politicians, judges, prosecutors and many others.

Yiz
 
Jiro said:
first of all - this thread is about motorcyclist's videotaping of off-duty cop pulling gun on him. all other videos in your post were unnecessary and irrelevant. It serves no purpose except to flame your "Fuck The Cops" agenda.

I am aware of dozens cases of police intimidation and shame on them for acting like they're above the law but I have a serious problem with the "Fuck-The-Cop" attitude. It is not conducive to yourself and the community especially the people you represent. With that attitude - you're making it worse for all of us law-abiding citizens. You're giving them more and more reasons for them to act like vindicative asshole by making their jobs more difficult.

Be above them by acting like empowered law-abiding citizen. In the end - they will lose their badge and gun because people like them are unfit for peace-keeping role.
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I understand totally where you're coming from. However I'll wait until you get screwed by a cop to see this changed. Hopefully it doesnt happen to you.
 
posts from hell said:
I understand totally where you're coming from. However I'll wait until you get screwed by a cop to see this changed. Hopefully it doesnt happen to you.
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still won't change my attitude toward them.
 
I know personally that I "almost" got screwed by a cop. This was in the summer of 1988, July, very hot and muggy as hell outside.

I worked 3rd shift at a C-Store. At 3 AM, I flipped the switch at my station area that auto locks the doors. The doors are electronic. I put up a sign, "Back in 10 minutes". Then I hit the "All Stop" button to make all the gas pump shut off so they can't just pump and drive off without my seeing them.

I go into the back area, opened the cooler door and went inside. I started restocking everything, pops, milk and other stuff. I toss out the empty boxes into the back area outside of the cooler door.

While I am doing that, I keep check on my watch, stepping back out into the sales floor to see if anyone is waiting at the door or a car is at the pump. That night I had no customers all the time I was stocking. (makes my job easier to get that cooler all stocked up. With no customers, I can have it all done within' an hr or so, sometimes a little more. It all depends how much restocking the cooler needs.

So I get done and step outside the cooler. Next I start breaking down all the boxes so it's easier to deliver them to the dumpster. Except for the Gatorade boxes. They're thick as hell and they are so ridiculously glued together. I skip those.

So on my way out to the sales floor with my arms loaded with boxes, a 9mm was shoved through my stack of boxes and I immediately dropped the boxes while raising my arms into the air. I'm thinking, "OMG! I'm being robbed!!"

Then I saw the uniform, WTF?

"Who are you???" as I am reading his lips...

"I work here, WTF are you doing?" I asked angrily.

"Oh, just checking" He said sheepishly, putting his gun back into his holster.

"Hey! How the fuck did he get in?? The door is supposed to be locked!!" I'm thinking...

So I noticed the front side door was slightly open ajared. Turning my head, I observed the officer helping himself a large fountain drink. So I walked over to the door and I noticed the electronic latch is broken.

So I turned my head again and the officer is walking towards me, so I pointed at the latch and asked how that latch got broken. He said he broke in because nobody answered his knocking, so he thought something was wrong. I asked him if he saw this sign at the door. He said he did, but thought someone else put it up there to delay people from getting suspicious that something is wrong. He gave a half hearted, "Sorry!" and left.

6 AM, my boss comes in to relieve me of my shift and I told her what happened.

"Again???" she said, looking very angry and frustrated at the same time.

"Not the first time this happened?" I inquired.

"Nope, the previous employee before me quit because of this same cop who scared the shit out of him pulling a gun on him" (just like he did to me)

Then I find out it was two employees that quit on the same shift as me. Each time that jackass broke the lock, it costs my boss $150.00 to fix it. (make that x3 at a total of $450.00). She told me that from now on, unless a criminal activity has actually occurred there, I am not to serve to cops anymore. Whoa! She is seriously pissed.

I asked if she's gonna report this to the Chief, she said she's not gonna do that because the last thing she needs is retaliation and being constantly harassed by the cops. I tried to assure her otherwise, she was dead set against it and made sure that I knew I'd lose my job if I went to report it. She meant business.

She asked me if I was gonna quit. Fuck no, not letting a cop drive me out of a job. She hugged me nearly to death. ("Damn!" I'm thinking. "If she keeps hugging me like that, I'll die from that than being shot!" :lol:) She said, "You're brave" (I dunno about that, I almost shiat my underwear seeing that gun. But am sensible enough to know that I'm not letting BS from getting to me.)

9 months later, he got arrested for a felony domestic violence and assault with a deadly weapon. He pistol whipped his wife, breaking her cheek bones, her jaw, knocked out her entire front teeth, blacked both her eyes, an hairline fracture on her skull, bruises on arms from defensive postures, her back and legs.

He got fired from his job and sentenced to 30 years in prison (15 with good behavior).

I've had other encounters as well, too long to post, but at least you get the idea of what I had gone through.

Oh, one more thing, the reason why the cop broke in the store? He wanted his free fountain drink.

Yiz
 
Jiro said:
still won't change my attitude toward them.
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I wouldn't count on that. We'll see if the beatings happens, being tasered and all that jazz.

If and when that happens (if ever), do let us know whether or not your feelings have changed.

Yiz
 
yizuman said:
I wouldn't count on that. We'll see if the beatings happens, being tasered and all that jazz.

If and when that happens (if ever), do let us know whether or not your feelings have changed.

Yiz
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still won't change my attitude. why should I let one bad cop change my attitude for the whole? maybe it's simply because your personality and my personality are different in dealing with such situation. I don't hold grudge but I am vindicative. :dizzy:

and.... did you forget about my post about Maryland police? :)
 
we all have had bad teacher. bad role model. bad ex-girlfriend. bad friend. bad employer. list goes on.

my attitude? still same.
 
Well, polices are just asshole by nature.

When you get stopped by police so I would recommended you to follow their order, REGARDLESS if you disagree or don't like their order, if you do follow their order then would be greatly reduce in police brutality. I believe that most of police brutality are occur when citizens refuse to follow their order, such as resist to arrest, excessive swearing or attack against them.

If you have problem with them to being above the law or attack you for no reason, like situation with between bicyclist and NYPD so never attack or use anything against back to them, it could make situation so much worse. Just simple to follow their order and file for complaint against them or you can testify against them in court. They will be in big trouble and eventually get fired.
 
posts from hell said:
I understand totally where you're coming from. However I'll wait until you get screwed by a cop to see this changed. Hopefully it doesnt happen to you.
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While my problems with cops isn't as bad as the vids, I'm wary of Hanover County cops in VA because they seems to think it's against the law for me to be lost or or other stuff that most cops would overlook elsewhere. They usually have to let me go cuz they can't make anything stick against me.

I used to live just off Central Ave in Charlotte NC and I would see cops going after my Mexican neighbors and overlooking me if I break the law.
 
This happened very recently..........

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaVaLpuQh3k&NR=1]YouTube - Trooper Charged for Excessive Force - Police Brutality- MUST SEE[/ame]

Then this cop posts this...(See attachment below)

Real classy dude.....NOT.

Clicked that account and I come to this page....

YouTube - DeptOfLawEnforcement's Channel

This account belongs to this website...

Sheriff-Coroner - Orange County California

Ya know, that dumbass cop could have broken her neck and killed her. That gal is lucky to be alive. Sure she was being a bitch jerkin' around, but that's no excuse to jerk her back, hard. Especially towards a female. I don't care if a woman is the biggest bitch in the whole universe, you don't harm a female, period.

Glad he got arrested and charged. They did the right thing.

Yiz
 

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