Gulf Oil Spill: Brace for Hurricane Season

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As if people along the Gulf of Mexico didn't have enough to worry about, researchers at the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory in Mississippi have crunched some numbers and warn that passing hurricanes -- the season begins next week, and NOAA predicted today it will be “active to extremely active” -- could snap undersea oil pipelines in ways never before estimated.

Mo
st of us think of hurricanes as violent storms in the atmosphere. But Hemantha Wijesekera and her colleagues looked at data from Hurricane Ivan in 2004 -- a category-4 storm, the tenth most intense on record -- and found it was scouring the gulf floor as much as 90 meters (300 feet) beneath the surface.

This matters because of the network of pipes and cables that connect offshore rigs in the gulf to the mainland. There are 31,000 miles of pipelines snaking across the floor of the gulf, according the American Geophysical Union.

Wijeskera et al, writing in Geophysical Research Letters for publication on June 10, say the undersea force of the storm was considerable.

"During the passage of Ivan, the bottom stress was highly correlated with the wind with a maximum of about 40 percent of the wind stress," they say. "The bottom stress was dominated by the wave-induced stresses, and exceeded critical levels at depths as large as 90 m. Surprisingly, the bottom damaging stress persisted after the passage of Ivan for about a week, and was modulated by near-Inertial waves."

The paper was submitted for publication in March, well before the Deepwater Horizon crisis began on April 20, but it will become one more factor to consider in the debate over offshore drilling.

I traded e-mails a couple of weeks ago with Mark Bourassa, a meteorologist at Florida State University who studies the transfer of energy between the ocean and atmosphere, and he said a hurricane in the gulf could make a mess of cleanup efforts.

"It would generate lots of relatively large waves, which will make booms less effective even far away from the storm -- how far depends on the strength of the storm," he wrote. "It will also spread the oil over a much larger area.

"However, rougher seas will also mix the oil, taking some of it off the surface and increasing the surface area of the oil," he said.

Would the presence of a large oil slick have an effect on a hurricane's strength or path? Not likely, said Bourassa, but it's a complicated issue. It is possible, he said, that a slick could trap heat -- the fuel of a tropical cyclone -- in the water beneath it.

"If the oil does trap a lot of heat, and if a very slow-moving storm enters the Gulf and generates lots of waves to mix up the oil, then we could have a very bad situation!"

Gulf Oil Spill: Brace for Hurricane Season - Science and Society
 
As if people along the Gulf of Mexico didn't have enough to worry about, researchers at the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory in Mississippi have crunched some numbers and warn that passing hurricanes -- the season begins next week, and NOAA predicted today it will be “active to extremely active” -- could snap undersea oil pipelines in ways never before estimated.

Mo
st of us think of hurricanes as violent storms in the atmosphere. But Hemantha Wijesekera and her colleagues looked at data from Hurricane Ivan in 2004 -- a category-4 storm, the tenth most intense on record -- and found it was scouring the gulf floor as much as 90 meters (300 feet) beneath the surface.

This matters because of the network of pipes and cables that connect offshore rigs in the gulf to the mainland. There are 31,000 miles of pipelines snaking across the floor of the gulf, according the American Geophysical Union.

Wijeskera et al, writing in Geophysical Research Letters for publication on June 10, say the undersea force of the storm was considerable.

"During the passage of Ivan, the bottom stress was highly correlated with the wind with a maximum of about 40 percent of the wind stress," they say. "The bottom stress was dominated by the wave-induced stresses, and exceeded critical levels at depths as large as 90 m. Surprisingly, the bottom damaging stress persisted after the passage of Ivan for about a week, and was modulated by near-Inertial waves."

The paper was submitted for publication in March, well before the Deepwater Horizon crisis began on April 20, but it will become one more factor to consider in the debate over offshore drilling.

I traded e-mails a couple of weeks ago with Mark Bourassa, a meteorologist at Florida State University who studies the transfer of energy between the ocean and atmosphere, and he said a hurricane in the gulf could make a mess of cleanup efforts.

"It would generate lots of relatively large waves, which will make booms less effective even far away from the storm -- how far depends on the strength of the storm," he wrote. "It will also spread the oil over a much larger area.

"However, rougher seas will also mix the oil, taking some of it off the surface and increasing the surface area of the oil," he said.

Would the presence of a large oil slick have an effect on a hurricane's strength or path? Not likely, said Bourassa, but it's a complicated issue. It is possible, he said, that a slick could trap heat -- the fuel of a tropical cyclone -- in the water beneath it.

"If the oil does trap a lot of heat, and if a very slow-moving storm enters the Gulf and generates lots of waves to mix up the oil, then we could have a very bad situation!"

Gulf Oil Spill: Brace for Hurricane Season - Science and Society

Nice. Play up the fear of more oil leaking in light of this ongoing oil leak.

Some 8 to 9 million gallons of oil was leaked after Hurricane Katrina. And that was a Category 4 storm, too.
 
Nice. Play up the fear of more oil leaking in light of this ongoing oil leak.

Some 8 to 9 million gallons of oil was leaked after Hurricane Katrina. And that was a Category 4 storm, too.

Hurricane Katrina was a Category 5, not Category 4.
 
Landfall, Category 4. That's where it counts.
In the case of this article, landfall is not as important as the strength over the undersea pipelines. Wonder which oil company wrote the article? How can they sustain with gasoline prices under $3 a gallon?
 
In the case of this article, landfall is not as important as the strength over the undersea pipelines. Wonder which oil company wrote the article? How can they sustain with gasoline prices under $3 a gallon?

At the 300 foot depth you're already close to landfall and not about 10 miles off shore where pipelines are buried a mile or more deep.

The researchers, at the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory at Stennis Space Center, Mississippi, got an unprecedented view of a hurricane when Hurricane Ivan, a category-4 storm, crossed the Gulf of Mexico in 2004. The eye of the storm passed over a network of sensors on the ocean floor, put in place to monitor currents along the continental shelf in the Gulf.

The research team found that strong currents along the sea floor pushed and pulled on the seabed, scouring its surface. "Usually you only see this in very shallow water, where waves break on the beach, stirring up sand," says David Wang, co-author of the study. "In hurricanes, the much bigger waves can stir up the seafloor all the way down to 90 meters [300 feet]."[/QUOTE]

Undersea forces from hurricanes may threaten Gulf pipelines
 
However, regarding to oil spills, the strength of the hurricane off the coast plays a huge factor.

Isnt that what this thread is about...the oil spill and hurricanes?
 
It would be devastating. oil will be pushed to the coast and further inland with the storm surges.

No one really did a study on oil and hurricanes.
 
Koko.. Katrina causing minor oil spills is much different than having oil already on the surface, than a Hurricane crossing over it to send the slick off to shore. The quantity is currently much, much, more than what I saw in the link.

So lets not compare apples from oranges. :)
 
Koko.. Katrina causing minor oil spills is much different than having oil already on the surface, than a Hurricane crossing over it to send the slick off to shore. The quantity is currently much, much, more than what I saw in the link.

So lets not compare apples from oranges. :)

Read the report. I don't think having at least 9 million gallons of oil a minor thing in the waters of Gulf of Mexico and Lousianna's coastal waters and marshes. You only have a fraction of the BP total oil reaching Louisanna. The report is a valuable one because it provides insight on the potential ecological damage. I wouldn't dismiss that report out of hand. Any good scientists wouldn't when it comes to this.
 
"The high winds may distribute oil over a wide area," said National Hurricane Center meteorologist Dennis Feltgen.

What's more "storm surges may carry oil inland, mixed with hurricane debris," he added, presumably with environmental consequences.

The movement of the oil would depend much on the track of the hurricane, according to Feltgen, who said a hurricane passing to the west of the oil slick could drive a large volume of oil to the fragile coastline.

Yet "high winds and seas will mix and 'weather' the oil, which helps accelerate the biodegradation process," he noted.

Nick Shay, an expert in meteorology and physical oceanography at the University of Miami, said a number of unknown factors could also take place, such as how oil, seawater and hurricanes interact.

"It's a complex problem that really needs to be looked at in great detail to try to understand what the oceanic response is when you have an oil layer at the sea surface," he added.

"Having the oil slick on top of the water changes things, changes how fast things move around, but the point is the wind curve being encouraged by the hurricane, the waves, how the wind and oil interact."

Researchers at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration are studying how an oil spill interacts with a hurricane, in a bid to determine whether it reliably weakens or strengthens the storm.


AFP: Hurricane could worsen huge US oil spill: experts


Compare the spills. The Katrina oil spills was much smaller than the one we are facing now. :)
 
They do not truly know how a hurricane will interact with the oil spill. I am sure we will have all the research results once hurricane season is over for this year.
 
You never mention this word.

Koko is right, Roxrac. In fact, I believe it also dessamated New Orleans as a "mere" category 3 storm. I'd have to check my facts and get back to you on that, though, but the point is Kokonut is right on this one.
 
Koko is right, Roxrac. In fact, I believe it also dessamated New Orleans as a "mere" category 3 storm. I'd have to check my facts and get back to you on that, though, but the point is Kokonut is right on this one.

Kokonut doesn't mention about landfill at first place and make me to assume of general hurricane.

“Katrina is comparable in intensity to Hurricane Camille of 1969, only larger,”warned the National Hurricane Center on Sunday, August 28, 2005. By this time, Hurricane Katrina was set to become one of the most powerful storms to strike the United States, with winds of 257 kilometers per hour (160 miles per hour) and stronger gusts. The air pressure, another indicator of hurricane strength, at the center of this Category 5 storm measured 902 millibars, the fourth lowest air pressure on record for an Atlantic storm. The lower the air pressure, the more powerful the storm.

Two hours after the National Hurricane Center issued their warning, the Moderate Resolution Spectroradiometer (MODIS) captured this image from NASA’s Terra satellite at 1:00 p.m. Eastern Daylight Savings Time. The massive storm covers much of the Gulf of Mexico, spanning from the U.S. coast to the Yucatan Peninsula.

The large image provided above has a resolution of 500 meters per pixel. The image is available in additional resolutions from the MODIS Rapid Response Team.

Hurricane Katrina : Natural Hazards
 
That's AS it was approaching the coastline. Once it started to interact with land, the intensity WENT DOWN, so, it actually weakened as it made landfall.

I know that but kokonut needs mention about landfill so I would get it.
 
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