How Do You Rate Your Education System?

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In today's schools, do you think schools fare better in educating our kids or has it gotten much worse?

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yizuman said:
In today's schools, do you think schools fare better in educating our kids or has it gotten much worse?

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In which today's schools? What about "neither"? What if education has not substantially improved relative to how it used to be, but has not deteriorated either? (Although, that said, I consider that to be "worse" - but I am hesitant to claim that that would necessarily mean "much worse"...)
 
It would be depends on area where you live in, there's some schools are improving, others are gotten worse.
 
It depends on the location, public or private, and to what time period you are making the comparison. If I make a comparison, it would be with public schools of the 1950's-1960's because that's what I attended. I attended schools in the Northeast and West, which I would compare with where I live now, which is the Southeast.

What I can say is this: I'm not impressed with public schools in South Carolina.
 
My 13 yr. old is in his last year of middle (8th) grade. He's doing awesome, and his teachers do email me off and on....I'm satisfied with his school. But my 15 yr old is in high school and I'm unhappy with it. He's allowed to do his homework in class, I never hear from his teachers, so I do call and make "an appt." with them.

We relocated recently, and I had no problems with my middler schooler enrolling.....but when I went to the high school to enroll my other son, I was asked...."Do you have an appointment"??...Say what?...I replied, "No I don't. And why would I need an appointment to enroll my son in school?" He missed a full day, because they would not let me enroll him, even tho' I had all the paperwork and transcripts from his prior school....I was upset!....And to top it off, as my son and I were walking up the steps to the new school, 2 police officers, several school security officers were restraining a kid!....He was raising holy hell! Right in front of the school....

I would choose a private school if I could afford it for both of them! Too many fights and suspensions going on in high schools. So, I'm not impressed or happy with education in Florida, either.
 
I kind of agree with Robin. They put alot of work in younger kids but when they get to high school, they automatically don't give a shit.
 
Texas Public schools are horrible....... I wouldn't wish a TX education on my enemies.
 
Speaking of Texas schools......here in Houston today they started a free breakfast program for all ages of school kids....now before anyone knocks me and wants to know "why is that bad???"....look at it this way...they have decided to cut back on teachers..no money.....they have enlarged the number of kids in each classroom...to save money....they have cut back on supplies...no money....and so on and so on....does anyone know the schools and their budget are for teaching kids, feeding the kids is the responsibility of the parents not the school...the money budgeted for education is being misapplied and wasted!!!! IF YOU CAN'T FEED THEM, DON'T HAVE THEM!!!!!
 
I think it depends..... I remember going to Private Catholic school for two years, in first and second grade.... oh boy I remember having tons of homework that seem never to end, and that we would get hard questions and we would go through such real hands on learning education. But Then I mainstreamed to public school in 3rd grade... and we didn't have much homework as my catholic school did.... but the learning was almost the same, but not as much as deep as the catholic school did. In Middle school, it got a bit easier, less homework than I had in Elementary school but I was learning new stuff. Then when I went to High School.... pfft, things were so easy, I was basically learning same stuff as I did in Middle School, with some new information. I barely had any homework, and if I did, it was easy that I can get it done less than thirty minutes. The only thing that was really new was Math, like Algebra and Geometry, and Biology. But in my Jr. year and Senior Year, those were my really easiest years of school, rarely had homework and the teachers were pretty easy, they just give you assignments and you just have to finish it and turn them in.

So I say that Elementary school does really push on kids, make them work hard while High School are pretty laid back....

I've been told that elementary school would be the easiest school while High School would be the hardest school you ever endure before college.... well that wasn't in my case.... instead High school was the easiest and Elementary was the hardest.

Really, I guess it depends on school system....
 
~*Kaelei*~ said:
I think it depends..... I remember going to Private Catholic school for two years, in first and second grade.... oh boy I remember having tons of homework that seem never to end, and that we would get hard questions and we would go through such real hands on learning education. But Then I mainstreamed to public school in 3rd grade... and we didn't have much homework as my catholic school did.... but the learning was almost the same, but not as much as deep as the catholic school did. In Middle school, it got a bit easier, less homework than I had in Elementary school but I was learning new stuff. Then when I went to High School.... pfft, things were so easy, I was basically learning same stuff as I did in Middle School, with some new information. I barely had any homework, and if I did, it was easy that I can get it done less than thirty minutes. The only thing that was really new was Math, like Algebra and Geometry, and Biology. But in my Jr. year and Senior Year, those were my really easiest years of school, rarely had homework and the teachers were pretty easy, they just give you assignments and you just have to finish it and turn them in.

So I say that Elementary school does really push on kids, make them work hard while High School are pretty laid back....

I've been told that elementary school would be the easiest school while High School would be the hardest school you ever endure before college.... well that wasn't in my case.... instead High school was the easiest and Elementary was the hardest.

Really, I guess it depends on school system....
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My schools seemed to get easier.... The great thing about private school when you are young is you get much more attention and get the tools for later.....I think high school just seems easier because you have more tools. That's just my opinion though.
 
I find that I learned more in elementary school than in high school... which is odd considering they are both in the same school board. My high school is far too easy, and I think that part of it has to do with the fact that we have a fifth period for multi-subject instructional, which is essentially a period for students to finish homework. It may be more convenient for us, but it cuts down class time. Everything just doesn't seem complex enough.

I'd bet that when my parents went to school, the work was of a higher quantity, and quite a bit more difficult.
 
My middle-schooler has tons of homework...but my high schooler...has none! Doesn't make any sense to me....

Since my middle-schooler is in his last year (8th grade), and advanced, A Honor roll...I'm beginning to wonder if high school is gonna be a challenge to him....or just reviews of what he's learned in middle school...??
 
Isn't it ironic that we worship the mainstream for dhh kids, but then also bash the quality of education that hearing kids get?
 
Answering to OP's question.. Not really. The education system has already gone down the toilet. I am told that a mother was shocked to read her daughter's history book that indicates Bill Clinton said that "Mr.Gorbachev, Tear down this wall!"

I was talking to this deaf teen who finished the basic science exam at a high school. She told me that if she passes the science exam, she would not have to take future science classes like biology, chemistry, zoology or any advanced science class. It still is up to her if she wants to take an elective class like biology.. Uh.. This is scaring me.
 
i'm from Ontario, Canada and i think our education system needs a better way to deal with kids with anxiety, depression, other mental and physical issues or problems at home or with life in general.

being one of those kids, and knowing many others, i can say that our education system has let us down.

i don't think you can hold everyone up to the same standards without considering that some kids are having a more difficult time than others.

i think almost 50% of my friends dropped out of high school, we all shared issues with anxiety and the things i mentioned above.

i'm still not finished high school, i'm a young mom, and it is only once i got pregnant that i actually found a school program that would help me get through school while understanding my personal issues.
i truly believe that if my original school was more flexible and understanding my friends and i would have completed high school on time and would have less problems.

i don't think its fair to look at a child that comes from a perfect family, a perfect upbringing, with no mental/physical issues, as the same as a child who has had a more difficult time in life.


i think that in regards to the actual teaching portion of our educational system, it really depends on the individual schools or the individual teachers.

the curriculum is often lacking, i think one thing that really needs to improve is our math courses which need to offer more knowledge of workplace type math.
as a young mother i know that once my son was born i was bombarded with different things that i needed to know about that i had no idea about, and it left me thinking, why the hell was i learning algebra when i should have been learning about taxes, loans, etc.
 
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i'm from Ontario, Canada and i think our education system needs a better way to deal with kids with anxiety, depression, other mental and physical issues or problems at home or with life in general.

i don't think you can hold everyone up to the same standards without considering that some kids are having a more difficult time than others.

i don't think its fair to look at a child that comes from a perfect family, a perfect upbringing, with no mental/physical issues, as the same as a child who has had a more difficult time in life.

the curriculum is often lacking, i think one thing that really needs to improve is our math courses which need to offer more knowledge of workplace type math.

as a young mother i know that once my son was born i was bombarded with different things that i needed to know about that i had no idea about, and it left me thinking, why the hell was i learning algebra when i should have been learning about taxes, loans, etc.
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Im from Manitoba Canada, Some quick facts your might need to know about reading this... I'm still in school. My public school had 3000 students in it and was in Winnipeg and my Private school has 124 students and is in the middle of no where (Gretna) in South Manitoba.

I don't think our schools need better ways to deal with kids that have depression, anxiety or other mental and physical issues or problems. I went to a Public school for 12 years (Nursery to Grade 10) and private school for about a year now and going to Graduate from. My old school was amazing for teaching children with various types of problems. My old school had one of the largest special ed programs in Winnipeg. Every special ed student had a EA (educational assistant) and programs were set for the best capable way to teach them.. we have students with mental disabilities staying in the school until there 21 so that way they can graduate and those students who have depression and anxiety they have councillors with in the building for that.

Schools in Canada have special programs for students that have a harder time learning... that isn't for those who have disabilities. they can work at their own pace and get the help they need from the teacher. and the teachers are very great educators.

I have depression, and major anxiety... I grew up in a perfect place everyone thought I had a perfect life but nope... its those who you think are perfect that really aren't. so saying perfect people having an advantage isn't true at all. Yah there are people who have it pretty good but its mainly on their choice. Everything is about making choices. Lots of times these problems come from poor choice making.

Our schools here have amazing math programs we are very lucky. We have many types. Pre-cal, calculous, applied and essentials. In all of those courses they have sections that are just about managing money and learning about the work place.

and Canadian schools have in their math curriculum sections on learning about taxes, loans, mortgages, debt and lots more.
ALSO we have whole classes the focus on those types of needs for when we graduate.

Private school and public isn't much different... in all the courses we get homework, we learn, take notes, do experiments. You learn so much in elementary but those are just basics like how to spell, write, type, share and be respectful. The only difference from public school to private school is that in MY private school its mandatory to take choir and Bible.

I think before you go about bashing the Canadian curriculum you should learn a little bit more about it. Thanks.
 
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rolling7 said:
Speaking of Texas schools......here in Houston today they started a free breakfast program for all ages of school kids....now before anyone knocks me and wants to know "why is that bad???"....look at it this way...they have decided to cut back on teachers..no money.....they have enlarged the number of kids in each classroom...to save money....they have cut back on supplies...no money....and so on and so on....does anyone know the schools and their budget are for teaching kids, feeding the kids is the responsibility of the parents not the school...the money budgeted for education is being misapplied and wasted!!!! IF YOU CAN'T FEED THEM, DON'T HAVE THEM!!!!!
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Maslov's hierarchy of needs, man! If a child is hungry they can not possibly learn.
 
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