Deadly WMD discovered....

LOL, let's reinstate Agent Orange, too!!! LOL!!!!

Anyway, I think this laser mosquito thing is awesome. I hate those little bloodsuckers. Kill them all!!!!
 
kokonut said:
THE DDT BAN TURNS 30 — Millions Dead of Malaria Because of Ban, More Deaths Likely > Health Issues > ACSH

This DDT ban is like the same irresponsible action on the claim that global warming (as caused by humans) caused Earth to warm up. All without evidence or merits of such to enact such extreme, extreme measures. In the case of DDT, the effects were that many millions died of malaria when it was mostly preventable through the use of DDT, a cheap and very effective insect repellant and insecticide against mosquitoes carrying the deadly Malaria virus.
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It is up to government in African countries, not us.
 
shel90 said:
I wish they would bring DDT back because last January, I was a victim of bed bugs and it was a horrible 4 months trying to get rid of them. That's why they are coming back after being gone for 50 plus years.
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Sorry, DDT wouldn't able to rid of bedbugs, according to source below that Univ of KY is studied about bedbugs.

Many bedbugs have grown resistant to insecticides (including DDT). In a study at the University of Kentucky bedbugs were randomly collected from across the United States. These “wild” bedbugs were up to several thousands of times more resistant to pyrethroids than were laboratory bedbugs.[32]
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Bedbug - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
kokonut said:
Not quite the case. There's more to it.
http://www.degroenerekenkamer.nl/grkfiles/pa513.pdf

Ban on DDT has killed more people than Hitler, most of them children.
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What is your point? If DDT is BANNED in some African countries so it is TOTALLY UP to government whatever want ban on DDT or not, even DDT is bad at beyond.

It has nothing with USA that control African countries because we don't have anything for them but just government decision.
 
Foxrac said:
What is your point? If DDT is BANNED in some African countries so it is TOTALLY UP to government whatever want ban on DDT or not, even DDT is bad at beyond.

It has nothing with USA that control African countries because we don't have anything for them but just government decision.
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I never mentioned USA but since you mentioned it, yes, USA is at fault, too. The production of DDT is limited where they are made, hence the ban. And thus very little is available. Plus, you have the UN and WHO (and other special interest groups) interferring and making "decisions" for these poor countries preventing them from using DDT.

Read what South Africa had to do to fight against the ban on DDT in their own country.
http://www.degroenerekenkamer.nl/grkfiles/pa513.pdf
 
kokonut said:
I never mentioned USA but since you mentioned it, yes, USA is at fault, too. The production of DDT is limited where they are made, hence the ban. And thus very little is available. Plus, you have the UN and WHO (and other special interest groups) interferring and making "decisions" for these poor countries preventing them from using DDT.

Read what South Africa had to do to fight against the ban on DDT in their own country.
http://www.degroenerekenkamer.nl/grkfiles/pa513.pdf
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you sure about that?

Political Mavens WHO Ok’s use of DDT
Detoxifying DDT’s Reputation - HUMAN EVENTS
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=19855&Cr=malaria&Cr1
 
shel90 said:
I wish they would bring DDT back because last January, I was a victim of bed bugs and it was a horrible 4 months trying to get rid of them. That's why they are coming back after being gone for 50 plus years.
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Although DDT remains effective in killing mosquitoes, bedbugs have developed resistance to it in some locations. The chemical does not kill those pests, but it does excite them, making them more active. That clearly became a nuisance to households and again caused a certain amount of resistance to the use of DDT. Using another insecticide along with DDT in order to kill bedbugs and other household pests has brought that problem under control.
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http://www.degroenerekenkamer.nl/grkfiles/pa513.pdf
 
kokonut said:
I never mentioned USA but since you mentioned it, yes, USA is at fault, too. The production of DDT is limited where they are made, hence the ban. And thus very little is available. Plus, you have the UN and WHO (and other special interest groups) interferring and making "decisions" for these poor countries preventing them from using DDT.

Read what South Africa had to do to fight against the ban on DDT in their own country.
http://www.degroenerekenkamer.nl/grkfiles/pa513.pdf
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Woo, Jiro has sources for you so go check his post.

African countries make "choice" to not follow the WHO or UN about regards on DDT, also DDT is allowed for vector control, it means fighting against mosquitoes that carry malaria.

WHO is part of UN.
 
that's what we need. A lethal laser to kill a misquito. OOPS! I missed the bug and took out little Johnny's eye. Sorry
 
I have a $5 solution to mosquito problem

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rockdrummer said:
Five Dollah??? That is one expensive swatter. I'll give you a quarter for it. :lol: I wonder how much the lethal laser would cost?
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at least it'll last longer than the 25 cents fly swatter. the handle broke after swatting 3 mosquitoes :mad2:
 
Foxrac said:
Woo, Jiro has sources for you so go check his post.

African countries make "choice" to not follow the WHO or UN about regards on DDT, also DDT is allowed for vector control, it means fighting against mosquitoes that carry malaria.

WHO is part of UN.
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Not exactly a "choice" when a country has to ask to be exempted from the UN’s Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic Pollutants where DDT is among those on the list. Secondly, the availability for DDT becomes less with each year with thanks to WHO, UN and even the EPA of the U.S, and few others.

http://www.degroenerekenkamer.nl/grkfiles/pa513.pdf
Again, read about what South Africa had to do in order to be exempted from UN's POP list.

Every year scientists publish new laboratory studies linking DDT to various deleterious effects in wildlife and humans. Yet, to date, no scientific study has been able to replicate a case of actual human harm from DDT, despite more than five decades of its usearound the globe. The U.S. National Cancer Institute classifies DDT as a possible human carcinogen, but it has a lower carcinogen rating than coffee. Indeed, there is no convincing evidence that DDT or its metabolites are carcinogenic to humans.
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And why would anyone think DEET would be any safer?

Symptoms of DEET Exposure
- Eye and mucous membrane irritation.
- Ingestion can cause CNS disturbances.
- Desquamation about the nose, dryness of face, a slight tingling sensation. Contact urticaria.
- Toxicity is primarily neurologic (encephalopathy, seizures, movement disorders, coma) and may occur via oral or dermal exposure, most commonly in children.
- Bradycardia is rare but has been reported after dermal exposure to deet. Hypotension has been reported after large ingestions.
- Eye contact may result in a smarting sensation. A burning sensation of the lips, tongue and mouth may be noted.
- Confusion, ataxia, hypertonicity, and clonic jerking progressing to coma and seizures may occur after acute oral or chronic dermal exposure.
- Abdominal pain, nausea and vomiting.
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DEET - toxicity, ecological toxicity and regulatory information

About DEET:
Chemicals Like DEET In Bug Spray Work By Masking Human Odors
 
I think we should bring back DDT and use it on all the Liberals. :giggle:
 
kokonut said:
Not exactly a "choice" when a country has to ask to be exempted from the UN’s Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic Pollutants where DDT is among those on the list. Secondly, the availability for DDT becomes less with each year with thanks to WHO, UN and even the EPA of the U.S, and few others.

http://www.degroenerekenkamer.nl/grkfiles/pa513.pdf
Again, read about what South Africa had to do in order to be exempted from UN's POP list.



And why would anyone think DEET would be any safer?


DEET - toxicity, ecological toxicity and regulatory information

About DEET:
Chemicals Like DEET In Bug Spray Work By Masking Human Odors
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African countries are still allowed to use DDT for vector control, even according to Jiro's post, WHO has approved on DDT for African countries only.

DDT does cause serious health problem like every other chemical does, including DEET so there is other option to fighting the mosquitoes in US like zapper, insecticides, etc and can't remember about what brand of insecticides because I don't pay attention and never get mosquito bites since 2004. I did used DEET spray when I went swim in lake and ocean so no problem for me.
 
saywhatkid said:
I think we should bring back DDT and use it on all the Liberals. :giggle:
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In India, where they make the DDT, there's not a case of cancer or whatnot because of their handling of DDT. Unless you happen to be a blood-sucker type, sure. Use the DDT all you want.
 
Foxrac said:
African countries are still allowed to use DDT for vector control, even according to Jiro's post, WHO has approved on DDT for African countries only.

DDT does cause serious health problem like every other chemical does, including DEET so there is other option to fighting the mosquitoes in US like zapper, insecticides, etc and can't remember about what brand of insecticides because I don't pay attention and never get mosquito bites since 2004. I did used DEET spray when I went swim in lake and ocean so no problem for me.
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Point is that South Africa (and other countries) had to convince and request the use of DDT.

DDT does NOT cause serious health problems in small doses and when correctly applied but it is sure better than the alternative of getting bitten by malaria infested mosquitos which is even more injurious and have caused millions of deaths. DEET is a neurotoxin, so is DDT.

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The active ingredient in many insect repellents, deet, has been found to be toxic to the central nervous system.
Popular Insect Repellent Deet Is Neurotoxic

But five decades of DDT use shows that it is highly effective and safe when deployed in house spraying on walls using diluted amount of DDT which acts as an irritant.
 
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