Trampling Gun Rights

deafPhD said:
I grew up with guns, whether hunting or plinking. I'm also a life member of the NRA. I can tell you firsthand that there are some guns out there that have no business being on the market. These guns are designed for the purpose of nothing more than killing people. THOSE, in my opinion, are the ones that should be banned or restricted.
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huh? The .22 can kill you; In my opinion, all guns from .22 to .50 Caliber are designed to kill.
 
Texan Guy said:
huh? The .22 can kill you; In my opinion, all guns from .22 to .50 Caliber are designed to kill.
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I think he's referring to military-grade weapons, particularly automatic ones and those big WW2-era "anti-tank guns," that civilians can get their hands on.
 
souggy said:
I think he's referring to military-grade weapons, particularly automatic ones and those big WW2-era "anti-tank guns," that civilians can get their hands on.
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I know some civilians own the military grade weapons such as Barrett M107 or full-automatic AK-47.

I even know a person's friend that went to the shooting range with his Barrett and among with the police officers, no one stops him from shoot his Barrett, they were drool over it. lol

There are someone who owns the anti-tank guns legally. Guess they gets it from the gun show.
 
Texan Guy said:
I know some civilians own the military grade weapons such as Barrett M107 or full-automatic AK-47.

I even know a person's friend that went to the shooting range with his Barrett and among with the police officers, no one stops him from shoot his Barrett, they were drool over it. lol

There are someone who owns the anti-tank guns legally. Guess they gets it from the gun show.
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I know. I have seen people own them up here. I am just explaining what people actually means when they say "purpose of nothing more than killing people."

You wouldn't use Barrett for shooting large game animals because there would be NOTHING LEFT! Same with a large number of automatic weapons.
 
souggy said:
I know. I have seen people own them up here. I am just explaining what people actually means when they say "purpose of nothing more than killing people."

You wouldn't use Barrett for shooting large game animals because there would be NOTHING LEFT! Same with a large number of automatic weapons.
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To me, Barrett is pretty cool. :D That's just me but I wouldn't need it cause it's friggin' expensive, you can get them at Cabela's. Oh, I'd want to have the full automatic weapons, just in case, SHTF or......zombies break out. :D
 
I used to own a Yugoslavian 59/66 SKS with grenade launcher. You don't need a class III permit to purchase one. However, you do need a class III permit to purchase the grenades and powder cartridge.

What would the purpose be for a grenade launcher?

To protect yourself from an assaulting tank.

The 2nd amendment is very clear, that a person's individual right to protect themself cannot be infringed.

It never says anything about hunting.


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I highly doubt that the grenade launchers are able to destroy the modern high tech tanks but an infantry squad will do its job. But that's awsome to have the grenade launchers in their civilians' hands.
 
I have a neighbor that has 3 mini tanks in his garage. I will ask if I can take pictures then I will post if he gives me permission.
 
Several States Ease Restrictions on Gun Laws
In many states across the United States, it's getting easier to carry a gun -- and many say it's the result of a campaign by the National Rifle Association.

In many states across the United States, it's getting easier to carry a gun -- and many say it's the result of a campaign by the National Rifle Association.

A nationwide review by The Associated Press found that over the last two years, 24 states, mostly in the South and West, have passed 47 new laws loosening gun restrictions.

Among other things, legislatures have allowed firearms to be carried in cars, made it illegal to ask job candidates whether they own a gun, and expanded agreements that make permits to carry handguns in one state valid in another.

The trend is attributed in large part to a push by the NRA. The NRA, the leading gun-owners lobby in the U.S. which for years has blocked attempts in Washington to tighten firearms laws, has ramped up its efforts at the state level to chip away at gun restrictions.

"This is all a coordinated approach to respect that human, God-given right of self defense by law-abiding Americans," says Chris W. Cox, the NRA's chief lobbyist. "We'll rest when all 50 states allow and respect the right of law-abiding people to defend themselves from criminal attack."

Tennessee and Montana, for example, have passed laws that exempt weapons made and owned in-state from federal restrictions.

Tennessee is the home to Barrett Firearms Manufacturing, the maker of a .50-caliber shoulder-fired rifle that the company says can shoot bullets up to 5 miles (8 kilometers). The rifle is banned in California.

There have been gun-friendly law changes in other states. Arizona, Florida, Louisiana and Utah have made it illegal for businesses to bar their employees from storing guns in cars parked on company lots. Some states have made handgun permit information confidential and others have allowed handgun permits to be issued to people who have had their felony convictions expunged or their full civil rights restored.

The AP compiled the data on new laws from groups ranging from the Legal Community Against Violence, which advocates gun control, to the NRA.

Public attitudes toward gun control have shifted strongly over the past 50 years, according to Gallup polling. In 1959, 60 percent of respondents said they favored a ban on handguns except for "police and other authorized persons." Gallup's most recent annual crime survey in October found 71 percent opposed such a ban.

The NRA boasts that almost all states grant handgun permits to people with clean criminal and psychological records. In 1987, only 10 states did. Only Wisconsin, Illinois and Washington, D.C., now prohibit carrying concealed handguns entirely.

"The NRA has a stranglehold on a lot of state legislatures," said Kristin Rand, legislative director of the Violence Policy Center, a gun control group in Washington. "They basically have convinced lawmakers they can cost them their seats, even though there's no real evidence to back that up."

Tennessee's new laws came after the Republican takeover of the General Assembly this year, but most other states that loosened restrictions didn't experience major partisan shifts.

Most of the states where the new laws were enacted have large rural populations, where support for gun rights tends to cross party lines.

While some states have tightened gun laws during the same period, the list of new restrictive laws is much shorter. In 2009 alone, more than three times as many laws were passed to make it easier on gun owners.

New Jersey's 2009 law limiting people to one handgun purchase per month is the most notable of the more-restrictive laws. Other examples this year include Maryland's ban on concealed weapons on public transit and Maine's vote to give public universities and colleges the power to regulate firearms on campus.

The most contentious of Tennessee's new gun laws was one allowing handguns in bars and restaurants that serve alcohol. It took effect in July after lawmakers overrode a veto by the governor. Last month, a Nashville judge struck down the law as unconstitutionally vague, but supporters have vowed to pass it again.

A similar Arizona law that took effect in September allows people with concealed-weapons permits to bring their guns into bars and restaurants that haven't posted signs banning them.

While Tennessee's law was in place, many bars chose not to let customers bring guns in. Likewise, more than 70 communities have opted out of allowing guns in parks.

"People go in there and start drinking and then they want to start a fight. What are they going to do if they got a gun in their hand?" said Larry Speck, 69, who works at an auto repair shop in Memphis. "I've got a gun permit and I'm not carrying mine in there, even if they have a law."

Supporters of expanding handgun rights argue that people with state-issued permits are far less likely to commit crimes, and that more lawfully armed people cause a reduction in crime.

Opponents fear that more guns could lead to more crime.

Academics are divided on the effects of liberalized handgun laws, and determining the impact is complicated by the move in several states to close handgun permit records.
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I'm glad to see that government's finally recognizing it.
 
Steinhauer said:
I used to own a Yugoslavian 59/66 SKS with grenade launcher. You don't need a class III permit to purchase one. However, you do need a class III permit to purchase the grenades and powder cartridge.

What would the purpose be for a grenade launcher?

To protect yourself from an assaulting tank.

The 2nd amendment is very clear, that a person's individual right to protect themself cannot be infringed.

It never says anything about hunting.
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But you can see his point though, right?

I don't think anyone could had foreseen the effect of machine guns during WW1; let alone having weapons of such capability being affordable enough for a middle-class civilian to get their hands upon. ;)

Not anti-gun, just playing the Devil's advocate.
 
Reba and Jiro,

Thanks so much for your responses and for sharing your thoughts with me. The main reason I'm thinking of gun ownership is that I live in a large city in Georgia and almost daily I read in the newspaper or see on the news about someone getting robbed, shot or assualted right here in my hometown. And it's been getting worse over the last few years with the gangbangers and drug dealers. Home invasions are not uncommon here, either. I'm concerned for my family and I simply want to protect our home and ourselves from harm.

I've been to a couple gun shows and that gave me an idea of the different types of handguns that are available. I've talked to friends who are gun owners and I definitely plan to take a gun safety class and try out different guns at the gun range before I buy one. I also plan to take some shooting classes as well. The IDPA sounds interesting.

Oh, by the way, I have large, oversized hands ( I'm 6'3") and trying to handle small guns at the gun show was a bit on the comical side. So....my wallet - I ain't rich- plus the comfort (fit) and ease of handling will be the determining factors in which handgun I eventually get.

Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it.
 
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