Psychology Today Hit Piece Labels Conspiracy Thinking A Psychotic Illness

sallylou said:
Therapy takes self-awareness. Your therapists tell you some things that you don't want to hear. It's not for the faint of heart.
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that's so very true!
 
Grummer said:
yeah, well sometimes it is more responsible to refrain from telling the truth, dont get confused with denial, put another way, if i described what i 'know' based on my a mix of opinions and how i disapprove of the 'popular take of this within the professional area AND 'outside' in the deaf community', some of which I might have hinted could put other people into the mode of 'self defense' or even 'defending that profession or individual(s) but failing to realise that my observation is based on how their hypocrisy are socially-covered up by convenience. I think I may have given enough clues or if not, then sorry but this is as far I will go. Finally, thank you for respecting my decision to refrain from a potentially sour arguement.
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One can't judge whether it is the "truth" or not if one is afraid to open it up to assessment.:cool2:
 
sallylou said:
Yes, therapy is expensive but it's helped me a lot. I've had 2 outstanding therapists and 2 bad ones. If you pick a good therapist and work hard, it's really helpful.
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I can say the same thing. I'm currently working with a wonderful therapist who has helped me deal with my issues and I've achieved all of my goals that I wanted to attain. Right now we are progressing to getting me back in school and looking into employment options. If truth be told, I don't know where I'd be without this therapist's help. :)
 
jillio said:
One can't judge whether it is the "truth" or not if one is afraid to open it up to assessment.:cool2:
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Dont say i'm afraid, I have my reasons and these are very good ones. I already had taken an objective and subjective viewpoints in this matter, even so there is a need for more d/Deaf psychologists, some are going to be in it for their own gains, often to reassure themselves as 'normal' or deemed as 'overcomers'.

So you think you are better qualified than me to 'judge' or rather, to assess or evaluate this situation? scoffs
 
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Grummer said:
Dont say i'm afraid, I have my reasons and these are very good ones. I already had taken an objective and subjective viewpoints in this matter, even so there is a need for more d/Deaf psychologists, some are going to be in it for their own gains, often to reassure themselves as 'normal' or deemed as 'overcomers'.

So you think you are better qualified than me to 'judge' or rather, to assess or evaluate this situation? scoffs
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I didn't use the word "afraid". I believe that is the label you are attaching.:cool2:

And, yes, by virtue of clinical training, education, licensure, and experience, I believe I am more capable of you than seeing things that you fail to recognize.
 
jillio said:
I didn't use the word "afraid". I believe that is the label you are attaching.:cool2:
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jillio said:
One can't judge whether it is the "truth" or not if one is afraid to open it up to assessment.:cool2:
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what did that say??

dont try backpedal out of this one, you used "label" as a tactic to mislead, again this doesnt prove you didnt 'use' afraid , clearly you did, as a adverb. 'technically' not a label, but you did say that what i was doing, nevertheless, you did use that word full stop.
 
jillio said:
And, yes, by virtue of clinical training, education, licensure, and experience, I believe I am more capable of you than seeing things that you fail to recognize.
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clearly, you are so up yourself

That sheer arrogance you displayed is :shock: shocking. Also I am d/Deaf, this is places me to be far more qualified in terms of Deaf experiences than you'd EVER have. You are Hearing Full stop, and no, you can't hide behind credentials.
 
Grummer said:
what did that say??

dont try backpedal out of this one, you used "label" as a tactic to mislead, again this doesnt prove you didnt 'use' afraid , clearly you did, as a adverb. 'technically' not a label, but you did say that what i was doing, nevertheless, you did use that word full stop.
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Nice try, Grummer, but my words are not that easily twisted. Read them as written, and stop trying to look for hidden meaning. Otherwise, you could be accused of "conspiracy thinking.":lol:
 
Grummer said:
clearly, you are so up yourself

That sheer arrogance you displayed is :shock: shocking. Also I am d/Deaf, this is places me to be far more qualified in terms of Deaf experiences than you'd EVER have. You are Hearing Full stop, and no, you can't hide behind credentials.
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That isn't arrogance, my dear. It is simple fact. I didn't place a value judgement on it at all. That would be required for arrogance. I simply stated that my education, experience, and knowledge regarding this particular topic is more advanced than your own, and therefore, qualifies me in areas in which you do not possess the same qualifications. That is nothing more than truth.
 
What about late deafened therapists? Would you trust them? Or does that put them outside of the deaf/Deaf community?
 
jillio said:
Nice try, Grummer, but my words are not that easily twisted. Read them as written, and stop trying to look for hidden meaning. Otherwise, you could be accused of "conspiracy thinking.":lol:
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Well I didnt even need to look for "hidden" meanings, it was all right there. No twisting was required
 
jillio said:
That isn't arrogance, my dear. It is simple fact. I didn't place a value judgement on it at all. That would be required for arrogance. I simply stated that my education, experience, and knowledge regarding this particular topic is more advanced than your own, and therefore, qualifies me in areas in which you do not possess the same qualifications. That is nothing more than truth.
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are you being sarcastic?
 
Grummer said:
Dont say i'm afraid, I have my reasons and these are very good ones. I already had taken an objective and subjective viewpoints in this matter, even so there is a need for more d/Deaf psychologists, some are going to be in it for their own gains, often to reassure themselves as 'normal' or deemed as 'overcomers'.

So you think you are better qualified than me to 'judge' or rather, to assess or evaluate this situation? scoffs
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whoa there, grummer! calmate! lot of therapists/counselors/psychologists do not have direct experience with the trauma but quite a handful of them do a damn good job counseling the victims/patients.

You ask - how can they effectively help people without having direct experience with the situation?
Answer - that's why they were intensively trained mostly by shadowing and having tons of hand-on experience along with mentoring and in-depth education based on thousand years of knowledge & experience in human history.

IMO - I feel that therapists/counselors/psychologists cannot effectively counsel the patients/victims if they have direct experience with the situation because they will most likely be biased or even strayed from the path. and that will cause harm to patient/victim. just IMO.....
 
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Jiro, I agree. I could never counsel trauma survivors because my own experiences would get in the way. I had a great therapist who specialized in trauma. There's a lot of research in this area and most therapists are well trained to deal with it. I don't want somebody as screwed up as I am to be my therapist.
 
Grummer said:
Well I didnt even need to look for "hidden" meanings, it was all right there. No twisting was required
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Then why all the posting about, no you didn't use that word, but what you really meant was....?:cool2: What I really meant is what I said. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
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