Pro-life advocate murdered in Michigan

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Okay. This thread is just depressing...

Like Jiro said... we can share out opinions and the law is settled firmly so I don't think it can change. But I think pro-lifers and choicers should support and help to each other where they could agree on something.

I don't want to see anybody feel so upset and hurt. :(

As for the first post, it is so wrong to murder pro-lifer. Just like it is so wrong to murder pro-abortionist... :(
 
because the child is going to be raised by his/her mother who was raped. the child is not going to be born to a life with garden full of roses and puppies like an American Dream. If the mother suffers as the result of rape, the child is going to suffer too. How can you explain to your own child that he/she is the product of rape? Do you think that child can live with that thought as he/she grows up?

Who said that the mother HAS to raise the child whom is a byproduct of a rape?

What about the other option? Adoption?

Allow me to make a supposition if I may, how about this, put the child up for adoption, this frees the mother from having to raise a child know he or she is a byproduct of that rape. No one should force a mother to raise a child from a rapist.

Then have a law created to seal the adoption record permanently because of this particular rape case (or incest). And I do mean to be never opened for any reason. Even if the child grows up and becomes curious, in no way that record is to be opened. It's for the sake of the child's emotional well being.

Please, don't mistake me for lacking emotional understanding regarding the duress of rape. It's a emotional impacting experience and I would never wish it on any woman (or man for that matter, some men do get raped too).

But it's vital to maintain head logic as it is far more reliable than emotion in of itself. (i.e. too many women fall head over heads emotionally with a man rather than use simple logic that could have very well prevented themselves from falling into the hands of a wife beater, a control freak and the likes. Look before you leap. Do please read their book for crying out loud. Don't judge a book only by it's cover! READ IT! It could very well save your life!)

Like i said, if we created laws after laws based on emotions (i.e. like you dressed funny, you are required to wear a suit and tie at all times, except in bedtime. Another example: you're ugly, you need to be put to death!), we'd all be dead by now.

This is why I look at situations like this LOGICALLY. I am not ignoring the emotional ramification as a result of a rape. But I have to look at the underlying situation, such as, is the child at fault for being a byproduct of a rape? The logical answer will have to be a resounding NO! The child cannot be at fault because the child did NOT commit the crime of rape, it was the perp (the father, if you wanna call it, but he's not, if he truly acted like a father, he would have never committed this crime in the first place. He's just a self serving, agonizing asshole!) who committed the crime and should be one of the two (1) put to death (2) locked up for life. Either one works for me.

Now if you wanna throw in an argument that the unborn child is raping his/her mother because he/she is a byproduct of rape, I'd say it's illogical and you're just being plain crazy.

Yiz
 
Okay. This thread is just depressing...

Like Jiro said... we can share out opinions and the law is settled firmly so I don't think it can change. But I think pro-lifers and choicers should support and help to each other where they could agree on something.

I don't want to see anybody feel so upset and hurt. :(

As for the first post, it is so wrong to murder pro-lifer. Just like it is so wrong to murder pro-abortionist... :(

I can agree with that assessment.

Yiz
 
I cannot imagine what it would be like to go through childbirth as a teenager. There are also a lot of medical issues with teen births because they are stll growing, their bodies aren't fully developed and ready to handle a pregnancy. I can only imagine how scary and hard it would be.

Yizuman, you say that you're being logical but you're not. You're not considering the whole equation. What about the woman's physical and mental health? Is she merely a brood mare by the misfortune of being a rape victim? You're missing a variable here.
 
Yizuman, then what's your solution to the problem of mothers killing or discarding their newborns?
 
I think I remembered 1/3 of unborn babies are aborted that resulted by action of rape. Can anybody refresh my memory, please? :ty:
 
Karissa, I think that we can debate this and still be friends. :hug:

I hate to leave such a stimulating discussion, but it's late. I'm beat! My kiddo is still up and I must get him to sleep.

Good night one and all! :wave:
 
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what made me ssssooooo furious inside me is that their male friends took advantage of them because of their "close" friendship and they automatically assumed she will just go along with it :mad2:

Pedophile is on my #1 shit list. Betrayal is next on the list. :mad2:

Yes it would me too. Which is why I participate in a anti-pedophile program. My job at night for at least a few hrs a night is to monitor and track pedophiles and if able, identify pedophiles so I can report it to (1) the local police (2) to the FBI. Depending on factors and situations. (sometimes I go overboard on the clock, I'm warned constantly not to get heavy into this kind of work, I'd end up killing myself if I did. which is why we're assigned with partners)

I monitor pedo's message boards, myspace, friends, etc. Also gaming sites because it's popular with kids so they pretend to be one of them in order to gain trust and friendship with them in hopes of molesting them.

I can't tell you which I work for because of security reasons. Too many pedos have been threatening and harassing those that work for such organization.

It's a very emotionally draining work because if you could see the chat logs that I see, you'd be puking every single second. It takes alot of emotional strength and maintain total logic in order to nail the son of a bitches.

Here's what I can tell you, we monitored and caught 2 men molesting a 3 month old child in PROGRESS. They're sitting in jail with a 1 million dollar bail each. No way they'll be able to weasel their way out of this one. Once they're sentenced to prison, you'd can be sure they'll be taken care of. Inmates do not take kindly with pedophiles.

Yiz
 
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It's getting hot in here, and this thread needs a cool down period, so the thread will close for the moderator's review.

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