Pro-life advocate murdered in Michigan

[jillio]

These so called "pro-choice" don't entirely see it that way.

Yiz

I think you are wrong there. I don't know of a single pro-choice individual that believes murder is acceptable. However, I see an awful lot of anti-abortion stance individuals calling for the murder of others.

 

[Foxrac]

A baby removed at 30 weeks is still viable to live and breath, along with medical assistance/intervention just as babies born normally would require at medical assistance/intervention to help survive. Babies born prematurely at 35 weeks is no different babies taken out of caesarean section at 35 weeks...both are viable to begin with.

Let me get a medical dictionary out for you on the word "viable."

Viable: Capable of life. For example, a viable premature baby is one who is able to survive outside the womb.
Viable definition - Medical Dictionary definitions of popular medical terms easily defined on MedTerms


viable (vy-ăbŭl) adj. capable of living a separate existence. The legal age of viability of a fetus is 24 weeks, but some fetuses now survive birth at an even earlier age.
viable - Medical definition of viable | Encyclopedia.com: Dictionary of Nursing


viable /vi·a·ble/ (vi´ah-b'l) able to maintain an independent existence; able to live after birth.

1. Capable of living, developing, or germinating under favorable conditions.
2. Capable of living outside the uterus. Used of a fetus or newborn.

Etymology: Fr, likely to live
capable of developing, growing, and otherwise sustaining life, such as a normal human fetus at 24 weeks of gestation. viability, n.
viable - definition of viable in the Medical dictionary - by the Free Online Medical Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Abortions do involve the termination and killing of viable fetuses/babies. Killing is still killing no matter how you try and change that, it is still killing/murdering a human being.

It sounds like you have no valid argument over abortion and you just considers as lost.

 

[jillio]

A baby removed at 30 weeks is still viable to live and breath, along with medical assistance/intervention just as babies born normally would require at medical assistance/intervention to help survive. Babies born prematurely at 35 weeks is no different babies taken out of caesarean section at 35 weeks...both are viable to begin with.

Let me get a medical dictionary out for you on the word "viable."

Viable: Capable of life. For example, a viable premature baby is one who is able to survive outside the womb.
Viable definition - Medical Dictionary definitions of popular medical terms easily defined on MedTerms


viable (vy-ăbŭl) adj. capable of living a separate existence. The legal age of viability of a fetus is 24 weeks, but some fetuses now survive birth at an even earlier age.
viable - Medical definition of viable | Encyclopedia.com: Dictionary of Nursing


viable /vi·a·ble/ (vi´ah-b'l) able to maintain an independent existence; able to live after birth.

1. Capable of living, developing, or germinating under favorable conditions.
2. Capable of living outside the uterus. Used of a fetus or newborn.

Etymology: Fr, likely to live
capable of developing, growing, and otherwise sustaining life, such as a normal human fetus at 24 weeks of gestation. viability, n.
viable - definition of viable in the Medical dictionary - by the Free Online Medical Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Abortions do involve the termination and killing of viable fetuses/babies. Killing is still killing no matter how you try and change that, it is still killing/murdering a human being.[/QUOTE]

Are you a proponent of the death penalty?

 

[kokonut]

The fact remain, abortion does involve the killing of fetuses/babies. Are you saying this isn't true?

 

[jillio]

The fact remain, abortion does involve the killing of fetuses/babies. Are you saying this isn't true?

Yes, I'm saying it isn't true. Now respond...are you a proponent of the death penalty?

 

[Foxrac]

I'm not pro-choice, nor is pro-life and I had seen many stories about murder of pro-life advocate and pro-choice advocate, even remember about pro-life did killed abortion doctors, it's just wrong on both of situation.

 

[jillio]

I'm not pro-choice, nor is pro-life and I had seen many stories about murder of pro-life advocate and pro-choice advocate, even remember about pro-life did killed abortion doctors, it's just wrong on both of situation.

Yes, it is.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Good! It was meant to.

I have no tolerance for self righteous individuals who think it is their duty to make medical decisions for the entire female population.

Yes, me too.

 

[yizuman]

This is where I see the world as being backassward.

Lemme see, it's ok to kill a baby, but it's not ok to put a murderer to death.

Am I getting this right so far?

Yiz

 

[kokonut]

A baby removed at 30 weeks is still viable to live and breath, along with medical assistance/intervention just as babies born normally would require at medical assistance/intervention to help survive. Babies born prematurely at 35 weeks is no different babies taken out of caesarean section at 35 weeks...both are viable to begin with.

Let me get a medical dictionary out for you on the word "viable."

Viable: Capable of life. For example, a viable premature baby is one who is able to survive outside the womb.
Viable definition - Medical Dictionary definitions of popular medical terms easily defined on MedTerms


viable (vy-ăbŭl) adj. capable of living a separate existence. The legal age of viability of a fetus is 24 weeks, but some fetuses now survive birth at an even earlier age.
viable - Medical definition of viable | Encyclopedia.com: Dictionary of Nursing


viable /vi·a·ble/ (vi´ah-b'l) able to maintain an independent existence; able to live after birth.

1. Capable of living, developing, or germinating under favorable conditions.
2. Capable of living outside the uterus. Used of a fetus or newborn.

Etymology: Fr, likely to live
capable of developing, growing, and otherwise sustaining life, such as a normal human fetus at 24 weeks of gestation. viability, n.
viable - definition of viable in the Medical dictionary - by the Free Online Medical Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Abortions do involve the termination and killing of viable fetuses/babies. Killing is still killing no matter how you try and change that, it is still killing/murdering a human being.[/QUOTE]

Are you a proponent of the death penalty?

Two differences...the fetus/baby is entirely innocent, cannot have pre-formed thoughts of murder or other evil acts, nor can the fetus/baby plan ahead, and yet this viable person has not committed any crime because he or she happens to be a growing human being inside a womb but ends up getting executed/killed/murdered. They deserve a chance to live and live the life we were all given, a chance to grow up, obey the laws, and become productive members of society.

But for a person who commits the heinous act of pre-meditated murder(s) who was already given the chance throughout his/her life to obey the laws and be a productive member of society does not deserve to be a part of that society. Execution is warranted. The murderer never gave his/her victims a chance to live. A murderer is never an innocent human being in the first place. He/she forfeited that innocence the moment he/she planned for that murder.

I know where you're going with this.

 

[jillio]

This is where I see the world as being backassward.

Lemme see, it's ok to kill a baby, but it's not ok to put a murderer to death.

Am I getting this right so far?

Yiz

Nope. It is not okay to kill a baby. If one is found guilty of infanticide, one is prosecuted criminally.

 

[jillio]

Two differences...the fetus/baby is entirely innocent, cannot have pre-formed thoughts of murder or other evil acts, nor can the fetus/baby plan ahead, and yet this viable person has not committed any crime because he or she happens to be a growing human being inside a womb but ends up getting executed/killed/murdered. They deserve a chance to live and live the life we were all given, a chance to grow up, obey the laws, and become productive members of society.

But for a person who commits the heinous act of pre-meditated murder(s) who was already given the chance throughout his/her life to obey the laws and be a productive member of society does not deserve to be a part of that society. Execution is warranted. The murderer never gave his/her victims a chance to live. A murderer is never an innocent human being in the first place. He/she forfeited that innocence the moment he/she planned for that murder.

I know where you're going with this.

Answer the question.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

These so called "pro-choice" don't entirely see it that way.

Yiz

Pro-Choice like myself are against kill human beings which mean is AFTER birth, not BEFORE birth. Example of all, I am against the parents for abuse, neglect and murder their child AFTER birth and also death penatly as well because they all are HUMAN BEINGS.

I respect women´s choice for good reasons, not abort dozen of times.

Did you know that most people who claim themselves as pro-lifer are against fetus removal and support death penalty for human being... :scratch:

 

[kokonut]

Yes, I'm saying it isn't true. Now respond...are you a proponent of the death penalty?

LOL. It is TRUE! Fetuses/babies are killed. They are in every sense of the word human beings. They are not just a blob of tissue here but an easily, identifiable human beings with all the traits of what a human being looks like.

Yeah, enjoy the idea of killing of these innocent human beings who have not had the chance to see the sun.

 

[kokonut]

Answer the question.

I did. Read again.

:roll:

 

[jillio]

LOL. It is TRUE! Fetuses/babies are killed. They are in every sense of the word human beings. They are not just a blob of tissue here but an easily, identifiable human beings with all the traits of what a human being looks like.

Yeah, enjoy the idea of killing of these innocent human beings who have not had the chance to see the sun.

LOL, no it isn't. The killing of a baby is called infanticide. A non-viable fetus cannot be killed based on the very fact that it is non-viable.

 

[jillio]

I did. Read again.

:roll:

No you didn't. It is a yes or no question. Are you a proponent of the death penalty? Pick one: yes or no.

 

[netrox]

Ah, so the truth comes out. Nice to see how people enjoy the fact that millions of viable babies were killed out of selfish reasons.

For the EXACT same selfish reasons we kill animals for food and clothing. We don't really need to eat meats and wear leather but we do.

Vegetarian radicals and antiabortion radicals are no different - they are obsessed with saving the "innocent."

 

[kokonut]

It's also murder....when planned for the killing of a human being.

Millions of viable fetuses were killed and are being killed via abortion. I wonder how many deaf fetuses/babies were rejected and killed on the spot? Maybe that's a good thing, too?

 

[jillio]

For the EXACT same selfish reasons we kill animals for food and clothing. We don't really need to eat meats and wear leather but we do.

Vegetarian radicals and antiabortion radicals are no different - they are obsessed with saving the "innocent."

And both are generally hypocritical in doing so.