The problem with Obamacare....

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From the Detroit News they report this new finding of a provision embedded deeply in the HR3200 health care plan bill.

One reason the public so distrusts the health care plan being considered by Congress is that so many troublesome details keep bubbling out of the massive legislation.

The latest example is the $10 billion taxpayers will be asked to shell out to prop up the United Auto Workers’ retiree health insurance program. …

In effect, it would ask every taxpayer, regardless of whether they’ll have health insurance coverage themselves after they retire — and most won’t — to chip in to maintain the UAW’s coverage, which even after the union’s givebacks is still better than what the average American worker receives.
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Editorial: Taxpayers shouldn't pay for UAW's rich health care benefits | detnews.com | The Detroit News

Why is there an another hidden "bailout" for the UAW?? No wonder unions have good reasons to conduct an Astroturf campaign on behalf of ObamaCare, at least ten billion good reasons. The union should instead pay for their own plans rather than have taxpayers subsidize them when taxpayers would be getting less themselves from the govt.

We spent more than enough on the UAW. Time to cut the umbilical cord and let the UAW learn the harsh reality by learning to adjust their pension plans to bring them into financial reality for change. It's not the American taxpayers duty to subsidize their failure for the third time in a year.
 
Oops, wrong area for this topic. Nobody to play with you today? :giggle:
 
Play the ostrich, eh?

Why am I not surprised?
 
Poor Mike, it's going to be a long 40 months for you.

Oh yes, I think this thread should be moved to current news under the war and politcal News.
 
Yeah, I try to ignore him, but he keeps throwing the ball over my fence....
 
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Now, now, folks. None of the temper tantrums. No screaming fits. And none of the intellectual dishonesty stuff either. Behave.
 
I seem to have missed my daily Obama bashing program sponsored by Kokonut and the Republicans.
 
At least we're not lemmings or kool aid drinkers.
 
More of those invalid and unreliable polls?:lol:
 
It's a snapshot in time that tells a story and not about reliability with only one poll. I think we all know that.

Though with enough of them from multiple sources do tell a bigger story and picture of what's going on seeing trends going up or down. As always, polls come with a caveat but nevertheless they are interesting to look at.
 
As I've said before, cummulative nonsense just makes a bigger pile of nonsense. It does not increase validity or reliability.
 
kokonut said:
At least we're not lemmings or kool aid drinkers.
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Oh??? Then why is it you haven't managed to access and read the bill yourself instead of relying on what others tell you? Sounds like a lemming to me.
 
What it does show is the likelihood on what the overall public sentiments are like trending to a postive or negative territory. That's all. It's one of the many tools to gauge public feelings.
 
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