caption crisis

Do you think we should fight just to have cc on netflix once and for all?

  • yes! We should indefinitely!

    Votes: 13 92.9%

  • Maybe we should fight for it?

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • IDK i just don't care

    Votes: 1 7.1%

  • Hell NO! we are just fine where we are.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    14
  • Poll closed .
chuck2975 said:
I won't rent a movie unless it has CC on it. My TV is set up for Closed captioning. I wouldnt have it any other way. I stopped netflix because they weren't cc. My personal opinion is that every movie and tv show should be CC'd. What ticks me off is when sometimes Im watching TV and the CC is garbled and only a few correct letters appear. I never understood why that happens. Worse - I don't know who to complain to!
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AMEN! Me too! It isn't a right, but if you want the business of a certain clientel (SP?) you must cater to that client. As a deaf client, I would like more CC items. How many D/d eaf people would love to have a fully captioned dvd rental base? I know I would. Netflix has movies in other languages, but not CC'd. I asked them about this months ago and got no reply. After waiting a very long time, I just cancelled with a good, long explanation of why. I guess this isn't the only forum to be discussing this issue. I was recently "using the phone" my i711 relay, and there is a new article on this subject there.

i711.com - Relay & Beyond

There is also an article on hearinginformed.org, Jamie Berke's about.com blog, and many others. I think this is now officially a Deaf topic. Ha, I think deaf network.com was by far the worst in the treatment of Netflix, calling a CEO an "Insensitive Bastard" after attending a share holder's meeting.


This is my favorite quote from the article "I then mentioned Netflix’s failure to add captions/subtitles to its online streaming videos. Netflix’s "instant play" option doesn’t include captions, making its online video option unusable for many users. As a result of not offering captions, Netflix is alienating its hearing-impaired, deaf, and senior citizen customers. According to some estimates, there are 34 million hearing-impaired persons in the United States. One would think Netflix would think better than to alienate such a large customer base."

A coworker rightly pointed out that Netflix caters to many demographics of marketing, glbt/trans, hispanic, foreign, so why shouldn't they want our money too? Pretty good point for a Hearie. :hmm:
 
I love documentaries, but many are not cc or subtitled. Go ahead and rant newbie, we all need to once in awhile.
 
Hell Yeah! i don't like it either chuck2975, i don't know whats wrong with the captions that happends to screw up alot but it ticks me off too man. I totally agree with you every movie and tv should have captions wither or not we want to watch it you know what i mean? But not all dvd have CC or subtiles. If we have a favorite movie or movie we wanted to see sooo bad happends to not have CC or subtiles at all. That would suck! This is why we should talk about this. It just bugs me when a great movie comes by and we will never understand it becuase there is no CC for support. We should enjoy the movie like everyone else with CC or subtiles. Right guys?
Nan Matthew im happy you tried to talk to the neflix guys about this problem but do you have any idea why they haven't respond to you yet? and i totally agree with the article you have written here as well. I wounder why they don't listen to our complains and don't do anything about it. they are a "Insensitive Bastards" all right. But i think a little ranting will do us all good. i think we need to rant a little bit right moon-child?
 
chuck2975 said:
I won't rent a movie unless it has CC on it. My TV is set up for Closed captioning. I wouldnt have it any other way. I stopped netflix because they weren't cc. My personal opinion is that every movie and tv show should be CC'd. What ticks me off is when sometimes Im watching TV and the CC is garbled and only a few correct letters appear. I never understood why that happens. Worse - I don't know who to complain to!
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Hell Yeah! I totally agree with you Chuck2975. I don't know how this happend everytime i watch a tv or movie the captions screws up and i get lost in the conversation and it really ticks me off too man. I really don't know why this happens but it does and i don't know who to complain to either. i also agree with you about having every tv and movie to have CC'd. this is why we should talk about this. Every movie and Tv should have CC. i couldn't agree with you more man.
 
No, I have no idea why they did not respond. I finally cancelled. If they don't need my money, I am happy to keep it. ha - or spend it somewhere else.
I am glad that you enjoyed the post. It's nice to have a "a voice". :)
 
We could tell netflix we're going to boycott them till they get CC! That may get netflix attention!
 
terminatorfan1 said:
Hell Yeah! I totally agree with you Chuck2975. I don't know how this happend everytime i watch a tv or movie the captions screws up and i get lost in the conversation and it really ticks me off too man. I really don't know why this happens but it does and i don't know who to complain to either. i also agree with you about having every tv and movie to have CC'd. this is why we should talk about this. Every movie and Tv should have CC. i couldn't agree with you more man.
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Yeah , I just realize I could watch a station , but they do not have CC! It channel 20 on Comcast in Ma. I did email one station as their CC was not working and I got an email back saying they were sorry and wanted to what I was watching. I guess eveyone know if there is an emergency in your town and it come on TV is has to in be CC !
 
~*Kaelei*~ said:
I totally hate it when DVDs don't provide subtitles or Captions.... it really irks me. That's why I don't go to Movie Theaters often and I only rent DVD's that only have Closed Caption or subtitles.
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aye aye! same here. especially with movie theaters. They dont have captionings. and that movie theaters rarely have any CC or subtitles for us deafies to understand. I just wait for the DVDs. My family always urges me to go to the movie theater with them to watch a movie. But most of the time i don't really want to go because to me its not even worth watching a movie without any closed captioning or subtitles. Movie theaters are just another advantage against us.

But anywhoo... My family never had rented a movie or DVD from netflix. But I do think they need to have closed captioning or subtitles on. Even though it is not a RIGHT for nexflix to have closed captioning avaliable for us. I just rather get a DVD from the libary or buy one from target or wal-mart.

We do need to actually give this some thought about it. I mean, I was born hearing but now i lost my hearing when i was 3 years old due to auto immune hearing loss. And I do believe in deaf and hearing culture. The little things that bugs me about the advantage of being deaf if its wether its captionings, interpreters, hearing aids or cochlear implant problems, or discriminations against us from hearing people or from businesses. But we should be lucky to even have these rights from the NAD (national association of the deaf) and the ADA (Association Disability Act) that they gave us. Sometimes we should move on and forget about it and sometimes we can fight against whatever problems we will have in the future. These little changes that we can do can maybe change the views in hearing people. Trust me, I have.

sorry if i am off-topic
 
whatdidyousay! said:
We could tell netflix we're going to boycott them till they get CC! That may get netflix attention!
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But they have hearing consumers. That will not stop them for not getting CC for us. I think that we should give them an reasonable explanation why they need to have CC for us deaf because it is not fair and that it is an advantagement.

By the way I did a little researching from the NAD,

The FCC (Federal Communications Commiissions) also applied a requirement to computers equipped with television circuitry sold together with monitors that have a viewable pictures at least 13 inches in diameter. Digital televisions (dtv) tuners, and set top boxes (used to provied satalites, cable and other subscriptions( regardless of screen size. WIth these are marketed or sold. The Telivision Decoder Circuitry Act also requires the FCC to ensure that Closed Captions services are continued to be avaliable to consumers as New technology developed.

More than 1,600 comments about closed captioning were filed with the FCC, mostly by indiviual consumers.



The FCC also sought comments on the following areas:
Non- technological quality standards,
techical quality standards for CC,
monoitoring of captioning,
complaint proceders,
accesibility of contact information,
standardized FCC form complaint form for consumers,
fines and penalities for failures to captions,
requirements for compliments reports by broadcasters,
avalibility of captioners to provide live and pre-broadcast captions.


The TDCA in 1990 and the mandate for closed caption of television viewing illustrate the growing tend torward equal access to television for deaf and HOH



hope some of this helped. I'm just really intrested in these kind of stuff with the ADA laws..
 
Nan_Mathews said:
No, I have no idea why they did not respond. I finally cancelled. If they don't need my money, I am happy to keep it. ha - or spend it somewhere else.
I am glad that you enjoyed the post. It's nice to have a "a voice". :)
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Hey Nan im glad that you are trying your hardest to talk to the neflix company. i know you tried and you had to cancelled but im glad you did it because so we can figure out how to movate them to change their damn minds about CC on neflix screening and dvds. At least you get to keep your money dude. lol. Yeah i know you like to have "a voice." and i feel you to man thats why im here. :) It still pisses me off thought but in know in my gut that one day our time will come and we will get what we were fighting for.
I tried emailing them and they didn't respond to my message. Makes me want to kick their asses! I just wish someone normal can pay attention and listen to what we have to say. Anyway, thanks for cheering me up and the rest of us for trying to get them to talk...but it doesn't mean we should stop what we are doing but we should just keep doing what we can about this situation.
 
coolgirlspyer90 said:
aye aye! same here. especially with movie theaters. They dont have captionings. and that movie theaters rarely have any CC or subtitles for us deafies to understand. I just wait for the DVDs. My family always urges me to go to the movie theater with them to watch a movie. But most of the time i don't really want to go because to me its not even worth watching a movie without any closed captioning or subtitles. Movie theaters are just another advantage against us.

But anywhoo... My family never had rented a movie or DVD from netflix. But I do think they need to have closed captioning or subtitles on. Even though it is not a RIGHT for nexflix to have closed captioning avaliable for us. I just rather get a DVD from the libary or buy one from target or wal-mart.

We do need to actually give this some thought about it. I mean, I was born hearing but now i lost my hearing when i was 3 years old due to auto immune hearing loss. And I do believe in deaf and hearing culture. The little things that bugs me about the advantage of being deaf if its wether its captionings, interpreters, hearing aids or cochlear implant problems, or discriminations against us from hearing people or from businesses. But we should be lucky to even have these rights from the NAD (national association of the deaf) and the ADA (Association Disability Act) that they gave us. Sometimes we should move on and forget about it and sometimes we can fight against whatever problems we will have in the future. These little changes that we can do can maybe change the views in hearing people. Trust me, I have.

sorry if i am off-topic
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Yeah i agree with you but we shouldn't have to pay our money to watch a movie that we want to see but what if we don't like it? Then we waste our money on a movie that we don't like. this is why im fighting agaisnt these people to put cc on neflix or any dvd or movie theatres.
I may be off topic but im also hearing impaired even though i said i was deaf but no more. i loss my hearing when i was one due to a unknown virus that got me sick for months. i have been deaf and hard of hearing back and forth. i lost my hearing when i was 10 big time on my right!!!! i don't hear very well but it is close to being completly deaf.
Anyway, im just trying to change people minds and change their views about us. i feel being discrimatiing by these people. It makes me feel that i don't belong anywhere or worth to be heard by these normal people. Thats why im trying to fight them for our sake.
what do you think guys? :cool2:
 
Here's my take on this.

First of all. They are working to include internet video on the existing laws for TV and movies. You can go here to see some of the laws regarding CC that are already in effect:
Captioning Laws

This means that when internet video is included if they are streaming content from major networks or movies (Such as available at netflix). When this is passed they by law have to provide CC with their movies.

Until then we can just find other means. I also don't like to have to wait for a DVD to come out. I mean my friends can go to a new release movie when it hits the theaters and then they'll talk about the movie. We cannot join them in this if we have to wait a few months for the DVD to come out. I know this isn't the end of the world but it is a bit annoying and can feel very unfair to movie fans.

But the reality is you can now watch just about any movie you want to watch online with subtitles. To prove my point just tell me what movie you want to watch with subtitles and I'll most likely be able to get you watching it with in a day or two (This is not a promise I'll do this for everyone that asks. But I've already posted how in another post here at AD explaining how).

BTW - I just watched District 9 online with subtitles a few hours ago. It was alright.
 
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