Calif. Man "Symbolically" Adopts Wife's Two Aborted Fetuses

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A California man has signed papers to symbolically "adopt" and give his last name to his wife's two aborted fetuses.

Stan Musil said he filed the posthumous "adoption" on Monday as a way to support his wife, Lisa, and help her heal from the pain of having those abortions, Lisa Musil told FOXNews.com.

"He told me 'I love you and you are a part of me. Your babies are a part of you, and so that makes them a part of me also,'" she said.

Musil, now 45, had her first abortion at 19 because she was too frightened to admit her pregnancy to anyone — including her then live-in boyfriend, the Assist News Service reported.

But terminating the pregnancy caused her so much pain that she tried to cover it with "drugs, alcohol, partying and a promiscuous lifestyle," she told radio host Rich Buhler in an interview with KBRT AM-740.

That lifestyle led to her second pregnancy — and subsequent abortion — just before she was due to serve a jail sentence for a drunken driving conviction, ANS reported.

"The world tells me that it was only a blob of tissue, but my heart tells me otherwise," Musil told FOXNews.com by e-mail. "The grief often times was more than I could bear."

To try to cope with that pain, Lisa Musil turned her efforts to honoring those who have gone through abortions.

"It’s been a desire of mine to establish a memorial where post-abortive women can go to have the names of their aborted children engraved to honor their remembrance," she said. "As this is coming to fruition, I was wondering what last name I would put on this memorial, and my sweet husband asked if we could find some way he could legally adopt my babies and then they could take his name."

Upon hearing about Stan's idea, Buhler put the Musil's in contact with adoption law expert and NightLite Christian Adoptions Executive Director Rod Stoddart.

"I explained that it's not possible from a legal standpoint, because there's no birth certificate and no child living now to be adopted," Stoddart told FOXNews.com. "But from an emotional standpoint, there's no reason why we could not do an agreement between them where he would adopt those children and give them his name."

Stoddart drafted paperwork that reflected the Musils' desire for the adoption before each other, God and witnesses, which the couple signed on Buhler's radio show.

Stoddart said he's since received several requests from other couples looking to do the same.

"I feel it's given them a lot of comfort. It's something they're in together now," Stoddart said.

When the intended memorial is erected at Pierce Brothers Crestlawn Memorial Park in Riverside, Calif., it will include the names

When the intended memorial is erected at Pierce Brothers Crestlawn Memorial Park in Riverside, Calif., it will include the names the Musils gave the aborted fetuses — Alicia Anne Musil and Vincent Matthew Musil.

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He can't give his last name to something that does not have a birth certificate. A baby is only given a legal name after it is born. And you can't adopt a child posthumously.
 
I think its nice of California man. :)

I am not surprise that "unwanted" children cannot be 'adopted' cos they're 'a not baby'. Of course, a fetus must to be born so "it" can have a name as a person. =/

EDIT: On the another hand, People tend to view abortions as a 'happy, relief, and regret-free' choice. Well, it's not always a good choice...
 
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He can't give his last name to something that does not have a birth certificate. A baby is only given a legal name after it is born. And you can't adopt a child posthumously.


You're both right. My reaction to this is that both the woman and her husband needs counseling. She needs it to work thru her feelings regarding the abortions she has, and he needs guidance to figure out more productive ways in helping his wife cope.
 
You're both right. My reaction to this is that both the woman and her husband needs counseling. She needs it to work thru her feelings regarding the abortions she has, and he needs guidance to figure out more productive ways in helping his wife cope.

No doubt.
 
Just what our court system needs....more legal insanity. :hmm:
 
You're both right. My reaction to this is that both the woman and her husband needs counseling. She needs it to work thru her feelings regarding the abortions she has, and he needs guidance to figure out more productive ways in helping his wife cope.

You're correct. Both of them needs extensive counseling and guidance to have a better structure of how to cope with this and that.

Although, The husband's heart was in the right place for trying to make his wife feel better with this "posthumous adoption"; but granted, it wasn't a legal matter that cared for them - they both cared on how to get it through together which is a good thing, you know?

But yeah, I get the gist of this - No matter how crazy it can be, for some it is a solace.
 
"Musil, now 45, had her first abortion at 19 because she was too frightened to admit her pregnancy to anyone — including her then live-in boyfriend, the Assist News Service reported.

But terminating the pregnancy caused her so much pain that she tried to cover it with "drugs, alcohol, partying and a promiscuous lifestyle," she told radio host Rich Buhler in an interview with KBRT AM-740.

That lifestyle led to her second pregnancy — and subsequent abortion — just before she was due to serve a jail sentence for a drunken driving conviction, ANS reported.

"The world tells me that it was only a blob of tissue, but my heart tells me otherwise," Musil told FOXNews.com by e-mail. "The grief often times was more than I could bear.""

Please, YOU made a decision to have a second abortion even though you were guilty abuot the frist one. I am sorry, you are nothing but a delusional woman that is wasting our time.
 
Yea I do agree both of them do need grief counseling .....what's more its her 2nd abortion why she is not allowing them to live ? Why not do an adoption ...
 
He can't give his last name to something that does not have a birth certificate. A baby is only given a legal name after it is born. And you can't adopt a child posthumously.


I agree...

How can someone adopt a baby that does not even exist.

Seems more of a physiological issue more than anything. He did it to supposedly to make "her" feel better. To make her feel like someone "claimed" the unborn baby.

In other words, someone that gave the aborted child a name, to allow it to be recognized.


Odd.
 
I agree...

How can someone adopt a baby that does not even exist.

Seems more of a physiological issue more than anything. He did it to supposedly to make "her" feel better. To make her feel like someone "claimed" the unborn baby.

In other words, someone that gave the aborted child a name, to allow it to be recognized.


Odd.

I agree that it is very odd. If she is looking for closure, this is the way to get exactly the opposite. It keeps everything going to handle it in this way.
 
:crazy: They're nuts....

Just what we need, more insane laws! :roll:

Come on, you can not adopt kids that hasn't even been born, or have birth certificate.

They both clearly need to get some help, like counseling.
 
Although, The husband's heart was in the right place for trying to make his wife feel better with this "posthumous adoption"; but granted, it wasn't a legal matter that cared for them - they both cared on how to get it through together which is a good thing, you know?

Yeah, what I see on other side as a positive. Sure, it seems it is a foolish idea about adoption, but I think it's really nice to see how much he care for his wife. :)

I just look at pro-life forums, and there are mostly positive posts and a little mention about negative about the spouses. Of course, some of them it's crazy sitaution in some ways. One post was from the pro-life forum, an user commended the husband's support and caring, s/he thought the spouses should go to counseling after the "adoption" and memorial services. It would get better.
 
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