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Unread 04-02-2004, 03:50 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Yes we still have Schönes-Wochenende-Karte & Bayern Ticket here....

Schönes-Wochenende-Karte = nice weekends ticket cost EUR 28 up to 5 person only from 9.00 am to 3.00am (Saturday to Sunday only) which it's good for 5 persons who divided into 5.60 EUR per person....

Bayern Ticket cost EUR 21 up to 5 person for Monday to Friday only from 9.00am to 3.00am.

We (10) bought only 2 weekends tickets when we make the trip to Christmas markets everywhere with train..
Thanks for the update, Liebling:-)))! I didn't know there was Bayern Ticket.

@ GnarlyDorkette, I do know that you have to buy EurailPass or Interrail passes in the USA. No way to buy it in Europe.
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Unread 04-02-2004, 03:53 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Thanks for the update, Liebling:-)))! I didn't know there was Bayern Ticket.

@ GnarlyDorkette, I do know that you have to buy EurailPass or Interrail passes in the USA. No way to buy it in Europe.
Welcome....

yes, Bayern Ticket was already there at long time ago....
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Unread 04-02-2004, 03:59 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Achso, I didnt't live in Bavaria, so I wouldn't have known!
I often visited Aschaffenburg, Regensburg, Schwandorf and Munich.
My friend lives in Schwandorf. I have not seen my friend since 2001.
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Germans can be friendly when you know them better. Why do you think it is that way, Calva? I know Germans love privacy!!! and so do I.
Yea, they like it to be reserved at the first time...
But lots of Germans think now, we shall be more open to new faces.
When I was in Portugal last year, I saw a lot of differences between our mentalities.
For example in Portugal it's an absolute must to introduce your friends to other people and give them a little kiss.
At first it was very unfamiliar for me but I liked it there.
In Germany again I was very amazed about the cool here
I think, it's a self-protection... But like I said, it's only at the first moment.
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Yea, they like it to be reserved at the first time...
But lots of Germans think now, we shall be more open to new faces.
When I was in Portugal last year, I saw a lot of differences between our mentalities.
For example in Portugal it's an absolute must to introduce your friends to other people and give them a little kiss.
At first it was very unfamiliar for me but I liked it there.
In Germany again I was very amazed about the cool here
I think, it's a self-protection... But like I said, it's only at the first moment.
I understand what you mean/how you feeling... That's exactly what my friends here say the same how they feel when they visit to other countries.

I'm confuse what you talking about "self-protection"...

self-protection? Meinst du Selbstvertrauen? Wenn ja, dann "Self-confidence". ? Wenn nicht...
Vielleicht verstehe ich Dich falsch? Kannst du mir Bitte genau erklären, was ist das? Bitte schriebst du in Deutsch auf. Viele Danke!
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Self-defence might be a better word, Liebling:-)))
I think Calva means that Germans do not want their feelings or egos hurt, so they build a wall or mask to separate from the unknown people.
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Self-defence might be a better word, Liebling:-)))
I think Calva means that Germans do not want their feelings or egos hurt, so they build a wall or mask to separate from the unknown people.
Exactly what I thought so.....

Exactly what Calva said is true.....
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kuifje: Yeah right, I meant self-defence to protect our feelings/ego.
I try to learn English better

Lieblings: Auf Deutsch heißt das Selbstschutz.
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kuifje: Yeah right, I meant self-defence to protect our feelings/ego.
I try to learn English better

Lieblings: Auf Deutsch heißt das Selbstschutz.
Ich dachte, dass du "zurückgezogen" gemeint...

- sich gekehrt
- will nicht das Seele/Gefühl verletzt wird...


Yes, you learn English good...
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I was in Berlin Germany, and then Frankfurt Germany and then I flew to Amsterdam (The Netherland) and then drove to Roswinkel and Emmen The Netherlands) to see my friends and I am planning to come back again in next few years to take my son there.
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It is not Lieblings but Liebling:-)))

I saw "Lieblings" at gl-cafe.de forum... It´s not me...

Did you join gl-cafe.de forum? I didn´t.
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I was in Berlin Germany, and then Frankfurt Germany and then I flew to Amsterdam (The Netherland) and then drove to Roswinkel and Emmen The Netherlands) to see my friends and I am planning to come back again in next few years to take my son there.
Interesting... Did you went there for just vacation or visit your friends there?
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I am enjoying this thread!! Hello to you Europeans and Americans: We get a lot of German tourists in our area around here with their RVs and vans.

BTW I live in western Norway now... think I will be here for a long time. I used to live in USA (MD, Hawaii, DC). I'm still an American.

We are planning on going to Spain this summer (Mollorca). We also plan on traveling around in Europe... it's very, very cheap because we live right in Europe. Too bad it's a lot of money visiting USA... family and friends are there. It would be nice to visit Germany and France, too! Never been there before. I will listen to your recommendations if I go there

Other countries I have visited were Italy and Greece. Greece was very stunningly gorgeous with all the blue water... scenic countryside.. Italy wasn't bad, considering they had some kind of thieves in the subways... they say Gypsies are prone to stealing, but I would be more careful about labelling a race. There were two ladies who worked in tandem, one carrying a pouch.. looks like a baby, but not really.. a cache of stolen goods, and diversion. I really liked being in Pompeii and Sorrento, though! They say it takes three full days to completely explore the ruins of Pompeii... I only spent a day there. Blah! I would go to Italy and Greece again if given the opportunity.

Also, I agree with Kuifje - you can get your money back if you just give your recepits to the customs before you leave Europe. We have that in Norway, too! Also, be sure to ask the gift shop folks to give you a special recepit for the customs here, too...

About the self defensive thing... I think we all have that in common! We're scared of getting hurt if we expose ourselves to strangers... so I totally can see what youses mean! It can come from childhood programming I guess.. in any country.
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Liza, Hawaii... wow... my dream holiday... lol

Sure, I´ll be happy to recommend you anything when you have any question...when you visit to Germany.... lol...

Norway is not far from Germany.... Super.....
We can see each other one day...lol

You will be definietly surprised that when you see different interesting cultures in Europe.... Italy, Greece, etc etc etc like what I wrote at your other forum...

I don´t want to influence your decision for not going to Mollorca... I´m agree that it´s good for you go Mollocra to learn their culture..
Honestly, I must admit that I prefer Tenerife, Ibiza, Menorca...
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BTW I live in western Norway now... think I will be here for a long time. I used to live in USA (MD, Hawaii, DC). I'm still an American.
Why do u live in Europe now? And was it hard for you to leave USA?


@Liebling: Hups, sorry, I thought, you're the same person like "Lieblings" in www.gl-cafe.de
and you're German, too...
Where in Germany do u live? (if I may ask you this question)
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@Liebling: Hups, sorry, I thought, you're the same person like "Lieblings" in www.gl-cafe.de
and you're German, too...
Where in Germany do u live? (if I may ask you this question)
Good question:
No, I´m British.
I married German & live near Nürnberg, Southern Germany (Bavaria).
What about you? I would like to know you.

Liza will answer your question anytime
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Yea, they like it to be reserved at the first time...
But lots of Germans think now, we shall be more open to new faces.
When I was in Portugal last year, I saw a lot of differences between our mentalities.
For example in Portugal it's an absolute must to introduce your friends to other people and give them a little kiss.
At first it was very unfamiliar for me but I liked it there.
In Germany again I was very amazed about the cool here
I think, it's a self-protection... But like I said, it's only at the first moment.
Not only Germans, British people are very reserved and stiff upper lips too!
They judged new people very quickly after study what sort of clothes they are wearing. My Aussie husband said my family talk as if they have a plum in their mouth!

German people are number one hand shaking in the world!, I used to shake hand to my ex-German boyfriend's parents every morning and every evening to say Good Morning and Good Night during my holiday with them in Munich!!

In Australia, it has no classic!
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Liza, Hawaii... wow... my dream holiday... lol

Sure, I´ll be happy to recommend you anything when you have any question...when you visit to Germany.... lol...

Norway is not far from Germany.... Super.....
We can see each other one day...lol

You will be definietly surprised that when you see different interesting cultures in Europe.... Italy, Greece, etc etc etc like what I wrote at your other forum...

I don´t want to influence your decision for not going to Mollorca... I´m agree that it´s good for you go Mollocra to learn their culture..
Honestly, I must admit that I prefer Tenerife, Ibiza, Menorca...
Sure, no problem! My parents in law went to Tenerife and they loved it. I saw photos - looks like there are gardens, tropical and lushful places, and a cute little parrot was on my dad in law's shoulder. This year, husband and I just want to do something simple - like laying on the beach and going to the local places in the city and in the country. It'll be a relaxing week for us. I'll let you know how it goes!
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Why do u live in Europe now? And was it hard for you to leave USA?
Hi Calva,

Good questions and welcome to Alldeaf. I live in Europe now because my husband is a Norwegian citizen, born and raised in Norway. He could move to USA, but we both decided it would be better if I moved to Norway for the time being. He has a job that he've had for about a decade with benefits and all the works - I just graduated from an university with no solid roots in USA. Easy decision for me, but hard emotionally on me and my loved ones who live in USA. It's also good experience to live in Europe. I think every American should try it at least once in a lifetime! Poor Europeans! haha just teasing.

I have lived in Norway since summer 2002. Have you always lived in Germany? How do you like it? What other places have you visited in Europe, other than Portugal?
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Not only Germans, British people are very reserved and stiff upper lips too!
They judged new people very quickly after study what sort of clothes they are wearing. My Aussie husband said my family talk as if they have a plum in their mouth!

German people are number one hand shaking in the world!, I used to shake hand to my ex-German boyfriend's parents every morning and every evening to say Good Morning and Good Night during my holiday with them in Munich!!

In Australia, it has no classic!
Yeah, it´s true.. This is British´s way... ha ha ha... I remember exactly... I laughed when I read your topic because it remind us at long time ago... but they like to welcome new people from other countries...


Interesting.... I didn´t shake hand to my parent-in-law, that´s time I was with my boyfriend (my present husband). All is we said each other like
you what stated.. Good morning, Good Day, Good Evening...
Guten Morgen, Guten Tag, Guten Abend.... with manner behaviour...
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Sure, no problem! My parents in law went to Tenerife and they loved it. I saw photos - looks like there are gardens, tropical and lushful places, and a cute little parrot was on my dad in law's shoulder. This year, husband and I just want to do something simple - like laying on the beach and going to the local places in the city and in the country. It'll be a relaxing week for us. I'll let you know how it goes!
keep the post with your new....
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hmph i am not sure if this trend has died out but if you want to backpack thruout Europe, have you thoguth about Interrail? You pay for a ticket and the train will stop in many european countries and you sightsee for a full day or couple of days then back ont he train and go to the next country! Usually interrail is two weeks or less (never have been on it but have been told to go on it someday when I have the money) the down side to it, if you cannot afford a first-class, be prepare to sleep on the hard floor on the train :-X

(now to answer the first post's question)
I have been to England, Finland, Sweden, (touchdown in Denmark airport, but i guess it doesn't count, lol) hmmph... yeah, that is all i guess. I would love to go to Spain (I know the language!) and Italy. Turkey too but someday when the all ... military actions simmer down.

My fantasy vacation would be going to Transylvia! YEAH AND VISIT THAT COUNT DRACULA'S PLACE! oooooooo I love those dark-history countries such as Turkey and its Istanbual and so on. I dont really want to go to france, switzerland, greece etc wtih those glorifying history (blah). I am a dark person
How can I find information on Interrail? I'm gonna go around europe but I'd like to know how to get cheap train ticket. I've loved the dark medevil history of all europe too! I'm sure you went to Spain where the famous church contains human bones as decoration!
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keep the post with your new....
*hugs* Liebling - the news is that we decided to not go on the spanish trip this year, because we are buying a house. I know... there's always next year. Thanks for the thought!!
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EU Rail

sorry to pull this old thread out of the silly bag...

My summer has finally confirmed with a trip to Finland... I am SO thrilled. This week my mother wants to give HOTWIRE a try to see if they could meet her price. (she is hooked on HOTWIRE lately)...

And the best part-- my husband is coming with me! My mom wants to pay for all of our tickets so it will be nifty for him to see what Finland is all about.
He only had been out of America once for Australia when he participated in World High School Bands to break a Guiness record but the concert was rained out and only several high school bands showed up.

I suggested to my husband that we could take a week off to travel Europe by rail... he peaked and jumped for it. He knew a friend who have been traveled Europe for 5 months... which is too LONG compared to our plan--we planned on travelling in Europe for a minimum of five days to maximum of 8 days...
Not enough to absorb Europe, I know but we are planned to stay in Finland for two weeks to catch up with my family, then one week to ourselves in Europe... I told my husband that we can always return to Europe to ABSORB when we DO have time and money. Right now, we are only concerned to TOUCH the city and say, "WE HAVE BEEN HERE!" then zoom to another city in another country. "STAMP MY PASSPORT!"
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Kuijfe, you said quite a while ago: "@ GnarlyDorkette, I do know that you have to buy EurailPass or Interrail passes in the USA. No way to buy it in Europe"
... Really? I did find the website (http://www.eurail.com or http://www.eurorail.com) and I could buy the tickets via online.. but is it impossible to buy tickets online, say in Finland, even though the rails are through those European countries?? I do find it odd because I do know two friends who are NOT American and did travel on EU Rail.

C and I are thinking about travelling to France, Germany, Netherlands and... whatever in between (I think I left out Belgium and Lux)... We are thinking about EuroSelect Pass something where you can travel up to five neighboring countries.

[EDITED: The cost of the CHEAP youth Rail pass for second-class for three neighbor countries is appx 250... if you want to travel in five countries it is like 280, nearly 300. And you can travel up to 10 days, I think. There are varying rates for each countries, length of travel, your age, et cetera.]

We will fly out to Finland sometime around June 14 (give or take a day) and return to US on June 30 (again, give or take a day). So a good three-weeks worth of European vacation!

I WILL LIKE TO HEAR YOUR SUGGESTION REGARDING EU RAIL, WHICH EUROPEAN COUNTIES TO GO VIA EU RAIL, TRAVELER'S TIPS, ET CETERA.


(psst-- Something for you to know: EU Rail only go into EU countries.. which exclude the Eastern Europe who are not members of Europe Union so if one wants to travel to Greece, one has to travel via ship, because the countries between Greece and Italy are not members of EU so EU rail cannot go through those countries.)
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My husband did suggest us to go to France and Italy for the art museums. I told him, "No-- I want to ENJOY Italy, not just to zoom in and out... Let's do Italy later." He agreed so that is why we decided on France-Germany rail path.

Our concern is-- HOW do we get ON the Europe's "mainland" from Finland? C doesn't want to fly in (I have no idea WHY)-- he wants to rail from Finland. SO it will cost us... we probably will arrive in Denmark and resume our EU rail through Holland, Germany, Lux, Belgium then Paris, FRANCE! Maybe we can fly out from Paris.. who knows? Hmm hmm.

Or just Denmark, Germany then France to save money. Eh.
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How old map is, gnarlydorkette?

Because Czech. Republic is member of Europe Union last May 2004.
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How old map is, gnarlydorkette?

Because Czech. Republic is member of Europe Union last May 2004.
Really??? I got it from the website (www.EUrail.com) so I dont know how often they update their website.
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Really??? I got it from the website (www.EUrail.com) so I dont know how often they update their website.

Sorry to confuse you in my previous post.

It's only "preparation" since May 2004. It's also Turkey, too since last January 2005.

We are sure that the Czech. Republic and Turkey's preparation will be end then become member of Union Euro in 2006.
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Our concern is-- HOW do we get ON the Europe's "mainland" from Finland? C doesn't want to fly in (I have no idea WHY)-- he wants to rail from Finland. SO it will cost us... we probably will arrive in Denmark and resume our EU rail through Holland, Germany, Lux, Belgium then Paris, FRANCE! Maybe we can fly out from Paris.. who knows? Hmm hmm.

Or just Denmark, Germany then France to save money. Eh.
I've been to Denmark 8 times. Copenhagen is worth a day or 2. Anyways, if you haven't gone yet, Take a ferry from Finland to Sweden. Then take rail from there. The rail goes through Denmark on the oresunds bridge, and from there to Europe over the Great Belt bridge.
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