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Unread 09-18-2006, 12:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Are you Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

My husband Jeremy and I am both pro-choice. Because we believe it's a woman's right to choose. Not every woman wants to be a mother or aren't ready to be a mother. In this world, there are so many unwanted children and that are not loved also. Why should bring a child in the world when you are not ready to be a mother and that it's not wanted?

Men that are prolife thinks abortion is wrong.. but the thing is.. they never experienced pregnancy and have no say in it. But there are some wonderful guys that are pro-choice and let the woman decide or discuss the options together. Good relationsips are important.

Some of my friends and relatives had an abortion and they had no regrets. They said it is the best decision for them. Go to the website I'm Not Sorry.net: Celebrating The Right To Choose.. and it's about women who is totally prochoice and had no regrets of terminationg the pregnancy. I am always behind my friends' decision and would do what I can do for them.

Both of my pregnancy is wanted and loved. I am glad I created this 2 children with my husband.

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Unread 09-18-2006, 02:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Unread 09-18-2006, 04:00 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I honestly tell you, i really understand what this talking about.. as for me I am strongly anti-abortions.. But depend on what kind of their situations want to have an abortion for deadly reason..
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Yes I second that, FelixKat.

I support pro-choice but I'm against if anyone who abort dozen of times when they know there're sex protection.
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Unread 09-18-2006, 05:54 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I'm a pro-life, and I believe in the right to live....If some people don't want to have a baby, then be smart by protecting themselves then they wouldn't have to make a decision on having an abortion...but if the mother's or the baby's life is at risk, then an abortion is okay...

I respect those who are pro-choice, but I hope to get the same respect back
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Yes I can understand, Angel but I respect every woman's choice but to me is different.

To me, I would not abort when I know baby is health or risk.... I would give baby up for an adoption if I feel that I'm unfit mother and can't give baby my love. Look around many childless married couples who want to adopt and give baby love.
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Unread 09-18-2006, 06:28 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Yes I agree Liebling, I was watching the news a couple of days ago about a newborn baby was found in the pond, and Ohio has this new law about unwanted mothers can drop their newborn baby off at the police station or fire department with no questions whatsoever, but a unwanted mother decide to kill her baby just to get ruid of it so no one will know, I think some young girls needs to understand that there's nothing to be scare about, and the Ohio laws are here to protect those unwanted mothers and their babies...As it explains clearly that they will not ask for their ID, or any personal questions, all they had to do was drop the newborn baby off and leave ....and btw the fire department was just down the street from where the baby was found at in the pond...So sad it had to end that way


Here's the link Dead baby girl found at Canton pond
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Pro-life.

But I do agree with Liebling and ^Angel^ with some reasons.
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Unread 09-18-2006, 06:40 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Used to be a pro-choice, now I'm pro-life, my reason is simple, I've seen one woman who had 4 abortions and said if she became pregnant again, would do it again. That's the idea that shows me that there are careless people out in the society who thinks abortion is the only way out out of their problems without protection, when they should be having safe sex. Is it fair to kill an unborn baby just because one doesn't want to have safe sex?
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Yes I agree Liebling, I was watching the news a couple of days ago about a newborn baby was found in the pond, and Ohio has this new law about unwanted mothers can drop their newborn baby off at the police station or fire department with no questions whatsoever, but a unwanted mother decide to kill her baby just to get ruid of it so no one will know, I think some young girls needs to understand that there's nothing to be scare about, and the Ohio laws are here to protect those unwanted mothers and their babies...As it explains clearly that they will not ask for their ID, or any personal questions, all they had to do was drop the newborn baby off and leave ....and btw the fire department was just down the street from where the baby was found at in the pond...So sad it had to end that way


Here's the link Dead baby girl found at Canton pond
Yes it's the same here in Germany as well.
Germany Debates Ethics of anonymous Birth
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Unread 09-18-2006, 08:31 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Pro-life here but I do understand if a woman has to get an abortion in order to save her life if it is too risky for her to continue with her pregnancy.
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It's terrible... Its hurt to see the pictures....

Accord German law at few years ago, we are allow to abort baby up to 12 weeks, not over 12 weeks but risk reasons is a different...
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There are cons and pros in Pro life and Pro choice... i am between them...depends on situations...
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I'd say pro-life, I didn't ask to be born, and my life hasn't always been a walk-in-the-park, but I'm happy that I'm alive and I'm glad that my parents didn't abort me.
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Unread 09-18-2006, 11:12 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Unread 09-18-2006, 11:29 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Unread 09-18-2006, 11:33 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I'm pro-life, women probably have rights to abortion for someone who raped them or sexual abuse, except normal life like girlfriend or wife depends on their boyfriend or husband's feeling that need have children.
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I'm pro-life. Abortion=killing.

The only exception I have to this belief is if giving birth would kill the mother.

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Why should bring a child in the world when you are not ready to be a mother and that it's not wanted?
Because adoption is a more ethical alternative--it gives the child a chance to live in a home where they are loved.

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Men that are prolife thinks abortion is wrong.. but the thing is.. they never experienced pregnancy and have no say in it. But there are some wonderful guys that are pro-choice and let the woman decide or discuss the options together. Good relationsips are important.
1. Not all pro-life people are men. Many are women too. Most of my female friends are pro-life.
2. This is a very selfish statement about how men have no say in it. People shouldn't be fooling around with sex if they don't want children. That's what sex is for--having children. End of story.
3. So a good man is a man who obeys your every command? I'm as anti-chauvinist-macho-crap as most women out there, but this is ridiculous. The woman and the man should be EQUAL. Neither one should have control over the other.
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I have always be prolifer but now I am at the age where I can see if any older women who accidently got pregnant and find baby to be deformed, I would abort it since I do not feel it is fair for them to live a life with too much suffer.

My son told me not too long ago about their friend who was pegnant and found out the baby would not be born alive but it was against her father's religion belief and forced her to carry the deformed baby to full term then the baby dies right after birth. Not worth to carry for 9 months to mess up women's hormones if the child can not be alive after being born. I change my mind to give women choice for special reasons, but I am against abortion for as birth control.
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I doubt that abortion would illegal in US, it won't happen though.
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I'm pro choice. I believe in a woman's right to choose.
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I doubt that abortion would illegal in US, it won't happen though.
I do not want to bring those old days back, women went to illegal abortion place and ended up dying themselves from faulty abortion.
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I do not want to bring those old days back, women went to illegal abortion place and ended up dying themselves from faulty abortion.
Absolutely!
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I'm sure that women would upset if happen when ban on abortion but only 2 states don't accept Roe vs. Wade.

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South Dakota

Main article: Women's Health and Human Life Protection Act

On February 24, 2006, the South Dakota State Legislature passed a bill that was signed into law by Governor Mike Rounds on March 6, 2006. The law purports to make performing all abortions a felony, including those for pregnancies resulting from rape and incest. The bill does make an exception for a woman's health, but also directs the physician to make a resonable effort to save both mother and child. Should he fail to save the child (that is, if the child’s death is an unintended consequence of saving the mother), the doctor will not be prosecuted. The bill is worded as follows:

The bill states in Section 4:

"No licensed physician who performs a medical procedure designed or intended to prevent the death of a pregnant mother is guilty of violating section 2 of this Act." [5] Section 2 is the text of the bill that bans abortions, given below.

Section 4 continues:

"However, the physician shall make reasonable medical efforts under the circumstances to preserve both the life of the mother and the life of her unborn child in a manner consistent with conventional medical practice. Medical treatment provided to the mother by a licensed physician which results in the accidental or unintentional injury or death to the unborn child is not a violation of this statute." [6]

The bill states in Section 2 (referenced in the wording of Section 4):

"No person may knowingly administer to, prescribe for, or procure for, or sell to any pregnant woman any medicine, drug, or other substance with the specific intent of causing or abetting the termination of the life of an unborn human being. No person may knowingly use or employ any instrument or procedure upon a pregnant woman with the specific intent of causing or abetting the termination of the life of an unborn human being." [7]

Although the health of the mother is protected, doctors will be prosecuted for any other reason. Its sponsors hope that a court challenge of the law will provide a vehicle that will allow the Supreme Court to reconsider and overturn Roe.
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Mississippi

Mississippi’s House Public Health Committee voted on February 27, 2006, to approve a ban on abortion similar to South Dakota’s. The Mississippi bill could be voted on in the full State House the following week, and if approved, move on to the State Senate. Governor Haley Barbour told reporters that he would probably sign the bill into law if it makes it to his desk, though said he would prefer it to have an exception for rape and incest. Mississippi already had some of the strictest state abortion laws, requiring a 24-hour waiting period and counseling for all abortions, and the notification of both parents for minors who seek the procedure.

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I do not want to bring those old days back, women went to illegal abortion place and ended up dying themselves from faulty abortion.
I'm sure that you are confused with sentence.

I said that I don't think that abortion would illegal and won't happen for long time.
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I'm sure that women would upset if happen when ban on abortion but only 2 states don't accept Roe vs. Wade.
The key word there is seeking. A state make seek to end a women's right to choose, but that doesn't mean it's going to happen. As of now, the US Supreme CT, has said that a woman has a right to choose an abortion. Until that is overturned, that's how it is.

States have imposed certain restrictions on abortion (some of which I agree with), but we haven't seen the Supreme CT overturn Roe V Wade yet.

Personally, I hope that never happens. If it does, we could see alot of desperate women doing things that could harm their heath and well being.

That thought makes me shudder.
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The key word there is seeking. A state make seek to end a women's right to choose, but that doesn't mean it's going to happen. As of now, the US Supreme CT, has said that a woman has a right to choose an abortion. Until that is overturned, that's how it is.

States have imposed certain restrictions on abortion (some of which I agree with), but we haven't seen the Supreme CT overturn Roe V Wade yet.

Personally, I hope that never happens. If it does, we could see alot of desperate women doing things that could harm their heath and well being.

That thought makes me shudder.
That's true, I support about separated in between government and religion, also women have rights to abortion for some reason, even rape and many other thing.
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I am pro-life because I am living proof my mom said no to an abortion and here I am today.
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