SS Overpayment repayment

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Hurry Man 007

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I've had all my appeals to SS and got my notice of appeals council actions letter yesterday. It was denied. That means I have to pay it back to SS. I even filed a complaint that the interpreter (sign language) was NOT certified in legal interpreting. They said it is irrevelant. ugh. Not sure what I should do. I have 60 days to to file a civil action within 60 days.
 
Hurry Man 007 said:
I've had all my appeals to SS and got my notice of appeals council actions letter yesterday. It was denied. That means I have to pay it back to SS. I even filed a complaint that the interpreter (sign language) was NOT certified in legal interpreting. They said it is irrevelant. ugh. Not sure what I should do. I have 60 days to to file a civil action within 60 days.
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Why did you got SS overpayment?
 
Where did you report your salary to them? Mail? Phone? In a person?

Best way to report or make any conversation with SS in a person, and then ask for a copy of statement and whole conversation (could be paper or SS representative type the summary paper). Most of the times Social Security representative ask you for evidence once they hear from you for whatever reason. Phone/Mail is no win-win situation.
 
If you reported it and was still getting the benefits then you knew it was wrong. You could have put the payments aside and paid them back and went to see them in person.

Pay them back. You owe them money. There is no way around it.

Who cares if the interpreter wasn't certified? That's an excuse to try not to pay them back.

This very thing happened to me too. I had no interpreter. They continued to pay me even though I was working full time and I did report it too. Then I had to owe them back. They are slow with these things.
 
Always make copy of paystubs and be in file. SSA have toooooooooooo many people who are on benefits and work at the same time. It's very hard to keep track of people. The best thing is to show up in the office and have them to input into your record with your being presence. Also, always make copy of SSA pay stubs and information and put all of them in the file. BLACK AND WHITE EVIDENCES ARE THE BEST.
 
authentic said:
Where did you report your salary to them? Mail? Phone? In a person?

Best way to report or make any conversation with SS in a person, and then ask for a copy of statement and whole conversation (could be paper or SS representative type the summary paper). Most of the times Social Security representative ask you for evidence once they hear from you for whatever reason. Phone/Mail is no win-win situation.
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Certified mail is what I did.
 
MangaReader said:
If you reported it and was still getting the benefits then you knew it was wrong. You could have put the payments aside and paid them back and went to see them in person.

Pay them back. You owe them money. There is no way around it.

Who cares if the interpreter wasn't certified? That's an excuse to try not to pay them back.

This very thing happened to me too. I had no interpreter. They continued to pay me even though I was working full time and I did report it too. Then I had to owe them back. They are slow with these things.
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What if the interpreter misinterpreted and caused misunderstood or led to a mess. DUH
 
well sometimes claims representative is not able to tell you everything. I know most of interpreters have been making sure to clarify this interview as conversation between claimant and claims representative. Nothing misunderstand

also you know you can always read http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10095.pdf (SS disability) http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-11000.pdf (SSI)
about your work history. Just help SSA instead of blaming on SSA. SSA staffs are becoming shorter and shorter and cases are becoming more and more. so SURE some of them are not doing well and some of them are doing GREAT. That's why SSA always give you the information everything if you are concerned.. ASK SSA any questions

I admit that I was overpaid as well, and did pay off because i did report everything but i kept checks which i knew i am not suppsoed to but waiting for SSA. OOPS now I know more, then every time I see checks which i knew and i returned the ssa back with peace of mind.
 
Hurry Man 007 said:
What if the interpreter misinterpreted and caused misunderstood or led to a mess. DUH
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That's YOUR issue. Did you check if the interpreter was certified?

Like the person said above, you know you can't work full time or over a certain amount and continue to get benefits and then say, whaaa? I gotta pay back?? Whaaa? Whyyy? But..But the interpreter wasn't certified!!! Wait a minuite, I did report it!! In short, they don't care. You owe them.
 
MangaReader said:
If you reported it and was still getting the benefits then you knew it was wrong. You could have put the payments aside and paid them back and went to see them in person.

Pay them back. You owe them money. There is no way around it.

Who cares if the interpreter wasn't certified? That's an excuse to try not to pay them back.

This very thing happened to me too. I had no interpreter. They continued to pay me even though I was working full time and I did report it too. Then I had to owe them back. They are slow with these things.
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Same here..I owe SSDI due to an overpayment. That was fine because when I first got my teaching job, it was a contractual position for the first two years with no health insurance, no paid leave and etc so because of SSDI continuing with paying me, it helped me from drowing. I saw it as a loan and been paying it back ever since. Only $50 a month. No biggie.
 
shel90 said:
Same here..I owe SSDI due to an overpayment. That was fine because when I first got my teaching job, it was a contractual position for the first two years with no health insurance, no paid leave and etc so because of SSDI continuing with paying me, it helped me from drowing. I saw it as a loan and been paying it back ever since. Only $50 a month. No biggie.
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whats more, SSA does not give interest on OP.
 
Frisky Feline said:
whats more, SSA does not give interest on OP.
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Sticky ..... sticky situation, because of my victims who get 3X penalty for not reporting, suppose that person get $800/month over payment for a yea ($800 x 12 months= $9,600) and that person expect to pay $9600 back to Social Security, but no....Social Security billed that person $32,000 due to not reporting back, and overpayment. That is $22,400 more. That person got lawyer to fight it back for almost a year, and LOST. Social Security is too powerful to not change their opinion, or second thoughts. I would not want to gamble with Social Security after receiving several of victims stories.
 
authentic said:
Sticky ..... sticky situation, because of my victims who get 3X penalty for not reporting, suppose that person get $800/month over payment for a yea ($800 x 12 months= $9,600) and that person expect to pay $9600 back to Social Security, but no....Social Security billed that person $32,000 due to not reporting back, and overpayment. That is $22,400 more. That person got lawyer to fight it back for almost a year, and LOST. Social Security is too powerful to not change their opinion, or second thoughts. I would not want to gamble with Social Security after receiving several of victims stories.
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Yes that's what happened to me I guess. I got an overpayment way more than what they paid me and I couldn't understand why. That must be it.
 
IRS ( US dept of Treasury) IS something that SSA have to follow the order from IRS. :(
 
I owed back to SSI around $1400 and paid it off in full. Then I owed back to SSDI around $1666 and paid it off in full.

My friend filed a banktruptcy against his bills including SSI overpayments and his overpayments were discharged by the court. SS office lost because they did not show up at the court and fight against my friend. My friend won.
 
Hurry Man 007 said:
Because I did not report my salary to them. I sure did. They ssaid they never received it. I was honest. They weren't honest. Go figure.
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It looks like you have ground to win the case.

First, fill the overpayment waiver and explain why it is not your fault, so they will have informal conference and high-level position will make decision to waive or not. You need have parent or your lawyer to support your case. If they refuse to waive so you can get lawyer to get SS to court and judge will make decision.

Do you have certified mail that keep as evidence?

I had $11,000 in SS overpayment and I got waived because it was error on SSA side.
 
authentic said:
Sticky ..... sticky situation, because of my victims who get 3X penalty for not reporting, suppose that person get $800/month over payment for a yea ($800 x 12 months= $9,600) and that person expect to pay $9600 back to Social Security, but no....Social Security billed that person $32,000 due to not reporting back, and overpayment. That is $22,400 more. That person got lawyer to fight it back for almost a year, and LOST. Social Security is too powerful to not change their opinion, or second thoughts. I would not want to gamble with Social Security after receiving several of victims stories.
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SS is too powerful? I got $11,000 SS overpayment and got all waived after battle with them, so it was in 2009.

I guess it is varies by case to case.
 
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