Reality: Vocal and Signed Tonations

web730 · 10-06-2009, 11:30 PM

There is an ASL video via YouTube created by James (deaf-HH) that explains the reality of vocal tonation and signed tonation... a real good one that he defines the ugly reality for those deaf people who speak using vocal in the hearing world not realizing how poor their vocals sound including himself that he discovered at NTID. Here is the link:

YouTube - ZURFER: REALITY...

souggy · 10-06-2009, 11:43 PM

Thanks for posting this. I knew about this for a long time, but the reality didn't hit me until recently when someone said I lack intonation, even though I "speak well." It's just too monotonous for that person, but she knew that I wasn't a monotonous type of person since I use stresses a lot.

AlleyCat · 10-06-2009, 11:43 PM

I only watched about half of this video as it's 10 minutes long. But I object to the statement in your post "those deaf people who speak using vocal in the hearing world not realizing how poor their vocals sound" because that isn't true for everyone.

web730 · 10-07-2009, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlleyCat

I only watched about half of this video as it's 10 minutes long. But I object to the statement in your post "those deaf people who speak using vocal in the hearing world not realizing how poor their vocals sound" because that isn't true for everyone.

It's real common reality amongst heard of hearing people (and esp deaf) though there are few HH ones that really speaks better than James that I'm sure.

Try it yourself using your own quick and short survey and meet & ask hearing strangers then find out how good yours do measure.

pathymo · 10-07-2009, 12:58 AM

I have a dear friend who grew up orally, but has been deaf since birth. However, her speech is quite clear, not monotonous, and she has great degrees of inflection. Its clear she has a degree of hearing loss, but if you didn't know her you would never suspect she was completely deaf.

AlleyCat · 10-07-2009, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by web730

It's real common reality amongst heard of hearing people (and esp deaf) though there are few HH ones that really speaks better than James that I'm sure.

Try it yourself using your own quick and short survey and meet & ask hearing strangers then find out how good yours do measure.

You don't know me. Please refrain from making assumptions. You don't know what people have said about my speech (which is near-perfect). There are quite a few (and not just a "few HH" like you said) that speak well.

web730 · 10-07-2009, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlleyCat

You don't know me. Please refrain from making assumptions. You don't know what people have said about my speech (which is near-perfect). There are quite a few (and not just a "few HH" like you said) that speak well.

I wasn't talking about you or anybody personally but rather others in general.

inmate23 · 10-07-2009, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by web730

There is an ASL video via YouTube create
d by James (deaf-HH) that explains the reality of vocal tonation and signed tonation... a real good one that he defines the ugly reality for those deaf people who speak using vocal in the hearing world not realizing how poor their vocals sound including himself that he discovered at NTID. Here is the link:

YouTube - ZURFER: REALITY...

Hi

Can someone please post transprit as there are people learning sign here and deafblind here.

TheWriteAlex · 10-12-2009, 11:30 PM

What's with speeding up the video?

souggy · 10-12-2009, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWriteAlex

What's with speeding up the video?

YouTube has a 10 minutes cap on their videos.

10-06-2009, 11:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
souggy Ace Attorney Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Victoria, BC Posts: 2,379	Thanks for posting this. I knew about this for a long time, but the reality didn't hit me until recently when someone said I lack intonation, even though I "speak well." It's just too monotonous for that person, but she knew that I wasn't a monotonous type of person since I use stresses a lot. __________________ Souggy's Blog Warning! Contains skewed comments & inane ramblings. May cause spontaneous human combustion

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pathymo shazaam! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 64	I have a dear friend who grew up orally, but has been deaf since birth. However, her speech is quite clear, not monotonous, and she has great degrees of inflection. Its clear she has a degree of hearing loss, but if you didn't know her you would never suspect she was completely deaf. __________________ http://www.garritguadan.com I'm..... sort of famous.

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10-06-2009, 11:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
AlleyCat Chicken in a Cat Suit Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,736	I only watched about half of this video as it's 10 minutes long. But I object to the statement in your post "those deaf people who speak using vocal in the hearing world not realizing how poor their vocals sound" because that isn't true for everyone.

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TheWriteAlex Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Lafayette, Indiana Posts: 465	What's with speeding up the video?