FCC Notice for Further Proposed Rulemaking

VRSEngineer · 12-15-2011, 07:41 PM

If you follow the FCC filings, this is a very important one:

Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Document

There are a number of important topics covered here, and the FCC is looking for community feedback.

What do you think about these proposals?

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posts from hell · 12-15-2011, 08:06 PM

161 pages?

posts from hell · 12-15-2011, 08:11 PM

wow... some of the naysayers here should read this. some stuff is real and it doesnt look good.

posts from hell · 12-15-2011, 08:18 PM

done skimming hmmm... I'll have to think about what they had to say.

RickL66 · 12-15-2011, 08:37 PM

Anyone got the Cliff's Notes version?

posts from hell · 12-15-2011, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickL66

Anyone got the Cliff's Notes version?

ill work on it

PowerON · 12-16-2011, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by posts from hell

161 pages?

That mean VRSEngineer actual read whole pages? Damn.. I don't have patience for that.

VRSEngineer · 12-16-2011, 10:43 AM

Yes, I did read the whole thing last night.

Read page 97: Appendix D, part II, section A:

A. User Identifying Information 1. Residential Users
8. We propose that VRS providers provision for each of their residential users, upon default provider registration, information sufficient to identify that user, including, at a minimum, their name and residential addresses. We seek comment on this proposal, and on whether additional user identifying information, such as a unique user ID, TND, customer profile info (i.e., information that would fall under section 64.404(c)(7) of the Commission’s rules), should be gathered from users to facilitate the database functions described above.
9. We propose that each VRS user registered in the VRSURD be assigned a unique user identification to facilitate the administration of the TRSBPP and the VRS program. We seek comment on this proposal, on the form that this unique identifier should take, and the standards and practices associated with assigning and managing such a unique user ID.

This really is the most disturbing thing to me. In order to obtain VRS service, you will need to have your name and address stored in a central government database. Your broadband provider would populate the database stating that you are eligible for VRS, and you would "elect" a VRS provider to be your default provider. You also get a government assigned unique id number for this database.

The federal government then knows, accurately, that you are deaf/HoH, that you speak ASL fluently, your name, your address, which broadband provider you use, your default VRS provider, and your phone number.

There are many other things in here I'm not fond of either: things like only having "free" compensation for one default provider, complications of enterprise VRS customers and how they might be (or not be) compensated, and more specifically the device requirement that deaf videophones must now talk to the central database in a protocol that makes deaf videophones now "special", and thus different and non-functionally-equivalent to hearing videophones which can no longer be bought inexpensively off-the-shelf and used as VRS videophones.

I'm more interested to hear what everyone else has to say. It will likely take a week for me to have responses to the hundreds of questions asked in this document (literally: count the question marks).

RickL66 · 12-16-2011, 10:55 AM

Jared, but perhaps, this may help the low-income Deaf people afford HSI so they can have/use VRS services at home rather than replying on public VRS phones?

Quote:

We propose that the VRSURD be provisioned with information sufficient to allow VRS providers, the TRS Fund Administrator and, as necessary, broadband providers providing discounted services under the TRSBPP to effectively identify the services provided to each VRS user.

VRSEngineer · 12-16-2011, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickL66

Jared, but perhaps, this may help the low-income Deaf people afford HSI so they can have/use VRS services at home rather than replying on public VRS phones?

RickL66,

I am not Jared.

I'm not sure that many deaf/HoH citizens could really afford to pay VRI rates for video interpreting services if it weren't for the TRS fund, low-income or not. In reality, the VRS industry wouldn't exist were it not for the TRS fund paying for expensive interpreter time for everyone.

As for the "last mile" broadband/internet problem, that's why the FCC has altered the purpose of the Universal Service Fund: it is this fund that is supposed to be helping all Americans obtain cheap/affordable broadband by subsidizing the price.

You might also want to look Project Endeavor, the CSD BTOP program: BTOP « CSD

DarthDiablo · 12-23-2011, 07:10 PM

http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Rele...C-11-184A1.pdf

Thoughts?

Talentedhands · 12-23-2011, 09:06 PM

The link is an excellent resource for the VRS industry to implement the latest standard protocol per FCC's request. As far as I know, ZVRS (also known as CSDVRS) is already ahead of other all VRS providers in that area.

RickL66 · 12-24-2011, 12:44 PM

FCC Notice for Further Proposed Rulemaking

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VRSEngineer Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tarpon Springs, FL Posts: 82	FCC Notice for Further Proposed Rulemaking If you follow the FCC filings, this is a very important one: Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Document There are a number of important topics covered here, and the FCC is looking for community feedback. What do you think about these proposals? Threads merged Moderator naisho Last edited by naisho; 12-28-2011 at 01:34 PM.

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posts from hell Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9,434	161 pages?

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posts from hell Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9,434	wow... some of the naysayers here should read this. some stuff is real and it doesnt look good.

12-15-2011, 08:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
posts from hell Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9,434	done skimming hmmm... I'll have to think about what they had to say.

12-15-2011, 08:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
RickL66 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 288	Anyone got the Cliff's Notes version?

12-16-2011, 10:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
VRSEngineer Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tarpon Springs, FL Posts: 82	Yes, I did read the whole thing last night. Read page 97: Appendix D, part II, section A: A. User Identifying Information 1. Residential Users 8. We propose that VRS providers provision for each of their residential users, upon default provider registration, information sufficient to identify that user, including, at a minimum, their name and residential addresses. We seek comment on this proposal, and on whether additional user identifying information, such as a unique user ID, TND, customer profile info (i.e., information that would fall under section 64.404(c)(7) of the Commission’s rules), should be gathered from users to facilitate the database functions described above. 9. We propose that each VRS user registered in the VRSURD be assigned a unique user identification to facilitate the administration of the TRSBPP and the VRS program. We seek comment on this proposal, on the form that this unique identifier should take, and the standards and practices associated with assigning and managing such a unique user ID. This really is the most disturbing thing to me. In order to obtain VRS service, you will need to have your name and address stored in a central government database. Your broadband provider would populate the database stating that you are eligible for VRS, and you would "elect" a VRS provider to be your default provider. You also get a government assigned unique id number for this database. The federal government then knows, accurately, that you are deaf/HoH, that you speak ASL fluently, your name, your address, which broadband provider you use, your default VRS provider, and your phone number. There are many other things in here I'm not fond of either: things like only having "free" compensation for one default provider, complications of enterprise VRS customers and how they might be (or not be) compensated, and more specifically the device requirement that deaf videophones must now talk to the central database in a protocol that makes deaf videophones now "special", and thus different and non-functionally-equivalent to hearing videophones which can no longer be bought inexpensively off-the-shelf and used as VRS videophones. I'm more interested to hear what everyone else has to say. It will likely take a week for me to have responses to the hundreds of questions asked in this document (literally: count the question marks).

12-23-2011, 09:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
Talentedhands Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 16	The link is an excellent resource for the VRS industry to implement the latest standard protocol per FCC's request. As far as I know, ZVRS (also known as CSDVRS) is already ahead of other all VRS providers in that area.

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RickL66 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 288	FCC Notice for Further Proposed Rulemaking