What states are the cheaper place to live? - Page 4

**Foxrac** · 10-23-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardbiker

Actually, it depends on location. Here we do have what is called "Homestead exempt" It means that the percent of property taxes is exempted when a owner actually lives in the property.,

Ok, I got it, thanks for clarity.

Byrdie714 · 10-23-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

diehardbiker, thats correct. The high property taxes here in Seattle are one of the reason why rents are high.

Ridiculously high~

Tousi · 10-23-2008, 06:12 PM

I imagine Sedona is pretty upscale....

Byrdie714 · 10-24-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

I imagine Sedona is pretty upscale....

It isn't upscale--it's more like Cannon Beach to Oregon, Sedona to Arizona because of the natural beauty that surronds it.

Of course I was shocked to see a McDonald's in Sedona but was intrigued that it wasn't the yellow arches--it's turquoise!

The cheapest home I found in Sedona so far is $ 285,000......

**sequoias** · 10-24-2008, 11:36 AM

Sedona is generally pretty expensive to live for a small town, basically. I think it's due to the beauty which surrounds the town.

Byrdie714 · 10-24-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

Sedona is generally pretty expensive to live for a small town, basically. I think it's due to the beauty which surrounds the town.

I think so too......but one can wish.

Hear Again · 10-25-2008, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

There's other cheaper to live is... Detroit metro but property tax is higher too if you own the property.

The same is true here in Wisconsin. High property taxes are one of the reasons many people end up moving out of state.

Hear Again · 10-25-2008, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

Actually in the Greater Phoenix--homes are more affordable than Tucson, unless you want to live in a barrio.

We checked out homes in the Phoenix area and found them to be more affordable than Tucson due to supply and demand. When we were visiting Tucson, we found one house that we liked but unfortunately it was in a barrio.

Plus you can actually get a house with a swimming pool in the Phoenix area.

But of course--I prefer to live in Sedona.....

Tucson homes also have backyard pools.

I didn't know homes in Phoenix were more affordable than Tucson...interesting.
I'd also love to live in Sedona, but I'd never be able to afford it. Since that's the case, I'm considering Tempe (my first choice), Glendale or Mesa.

**Foxrac** · 10-25-2008, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

The same is true here in Wisconsin. High property taxes are one of the reasons many people end up moving out of state.

Well, your state has positive on internal migration, it means more people move to WI from other state than move out.
Wisconsin Bigger Cities (over 6000 residents) - Real Estate, Housing, Schools, Residents, Crime, Pollution, Demographics and More

For my state then no, we have negative on internal migration.

Hear Again · 10-25-2008, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

Well, your state has positive on internal migration, it means more people move to WI from other state than move out.
Wisconsin Bigger Cities (over 6000 residents) - Real Estate, Housing, Schools, Residents, Crime, Pollution, Demographics and More

For my state then no, we have negative on internal migration.

That's true. Internal migration might have something to do with the fact that several of our towns and cities were named as the "Top 10 Places to Live." (Among them are Green Bay, Madison, Stevens Point and Middleton)

Byrdie714 · 10-25-2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

Tucson homes also have backyard pools.

I didn't know homes in Phoenix were more affordable than Tucson...interesting.
I'd also love to live in Sedona, but I'd never be able to afford it. Since that's the case, I'm considering Tempe (my first choice), Glendale or Mesa.

Avondale and Levine near Borderline Rd. are currently experiencing a housing boom with swimming pools in the back yard.

They are starting at low $ 100.'s.

**sequoias** · 10-25-2008, 12:17 PM

You know....many people thought the rain will keep residents from moving into Washington state...but not really. Washington state attracted more than 129,000 people from other states from 2000 to 2006...check this out at: Washington Bigger Cities (over 6000 residents) - Real Estate, Housing, Schools, Residents, Crime, Pollution, Demographics and More

**Foxrac** · 10-25-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

You know....many people thought the rain will keep residents from moving into Washington state...but not really. Washington state attracted more than 129,000 people from other states from 2000 to 2006...check this out at: Washington Bigger Cities (over 6000 residents) - Real Estate, Housing, Schools, Residents, Crime, Pollution, Demographics and More

Light/mild rain isn't big deal, east coast has heavier rain and need use umbrella if you don't want get severe wet.

Byrdie714 · 10-25-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

Light rain isn't big deal, east coast has heavier rain and need use umbrella if you don't want get severe wet.

There is a saying in Seattle..... " People don't TAN--they RUST! "

There is a difference in the rain pattern in Seattle compared to the east coast. On the east coast, the rain comes down in buckets. In Seattle--the clouds come in and stay for days due to the geographical boundry of the Cascades and it rains on Seattle.

Light drizzle, medium drizzle, and plain ol' rain. It gets old real fast!

Now where I live--we get more rain than Seattle--average is 86.6 inches. ( Last year--112.2 inches!) Now understand that the rain comes in quick and fast and is out of the area within a couple of hours.

If you can deal with the oppressive cloud cover in Seattle--you probably would succeed in living there.

**sequoias** · 10-25-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

Light/mild rain isn't big deal, east coast has heavier rain and need use umbrella if you don't want get severe wet.

People tell me that it rains a lot in Boston and has plenty of gloomy days. We get most of cloudy days more than rainy days. At this time, it's sunny with clouds here currently.

**sequoias** · 10-25-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

There is a saying in Seattle..... " People don't TAN--they RUST! "

There is a difference in the rain pattern in Seattle compared to the east coast. On the east coast, the rain comes down in buckets. In Seattle--the clouds come in and stay for days due to the geographical boundry of the Cascades and it rains on Seattle.

Light drizzle, medium drizzle, and plain ol' rain. It gets old real fast!

Now where I live--we get more rain than Seattle--average is 86.6 inches. ( Last year--112.2 inches!) Now understand that the rain comes in quick and fast and is out of the area within a couple of hours.

If you can deal with the oppressive cloud cover in Seattle--you probably would succeed in living there.

Yeah, it's due that Seattle is part of the rain shadow which is why we don't get as much rain as the coastal WA state region west of Olympic mountains. Forks, WA gets average of 115 inches a year, which is the wettest town in the state of Washington.

The more south you go from Seattle, the more rain totals you would get due it's out of the rain shadow.

***VamPyroX*** · 10-25-2008, 03:01 PM

Usually, the cost of living varies because the pay varies as well.

You could find a place where the cost of living is low, but the average pay would likely be low as well. Then if you moved to a place where the cost of living was high, the job would likely pay high too.

I have friends who moved to other states because they heard the job paid much better there, but they ended up having to pay a lot for their cost of living.

Hear Again · 10-25-2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

Avondale and Levine near Borderline Rd. are currently experiencing a housing boom with swimming pools in the back yard.

They are starting at low $ 100.'s.

Really? That's cheaper than where I live! In my area, homes with an underground pool start at $250,000.

Hear Again · 10-25-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

Light/mild rain isn't big deal, east coast has heavier rain and need use umbrella if you don't want get severe wet.

They also have sleet/freezing rain. As a Midwesterner, I can tell you it's no fun to walk in!

Byrdie714 · 10-25-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

Really? That's cheaper than where I live! In my area, homes with an underground pool start at $250,000.

We saw one that was $99,000. in Phoenix.

The problem was that it was in a barrio.....

Hear Again · 10-25-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

We saw one that was $99,000. in Phoenix.

The problem was that it was in a barrio.....

Yes, it seems like many of the less expensive homes are located in less desireable neighborhoods -- the same is true for apartments. The further out you get from the city of Tucson, the larger the apartments are and the nicer the neighborhood is.

Byrdie714 · 10-25-2008, 06:03 PM

Like I mentioned--Phoenix is one of the cities that we are considering moving too.

We have others on the list.

Next city to check out: Spokane, Washington.

typeingtornado19 · 10-25-2008, 08:41 PM

Louisiana and Virginia.

**sequoias** · 10-26-2008, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

Like I mentioned--Phoenix is one of the cities that we are considering moving too.

We have others on the list.

Next city to check out: Spokane, Washington.

I've been to Spokane before...I think it's a nice town but I heard that deaf community there isn't that great. Also, it's a redneck town, too. It also has a nice waterfall in downtown Spokane in the valley at 2,000' elevation. It has pretty hot summers and frigid cold winters.. pretty much a land of extremes. The winter months can go down below zero overnights and summer months hot as 100s.

diehardbiker · 10-26-2008, 02:38 AM

Yes this is true. My ex co worker from machine shop decided to move to Philly because of higher paid job. He moved back up here in New Yawk, know why? He told me TAXES is everywhere, and the cost is skyrocket and I ended up with less disposal income! I was like, oh yea because I wasn't THAT surprised.

Moving to higher cost of living can have its advantage IF you are smart. For me, I got good job right now, no reason to move.

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

Usually, the cost of living varies because the pay varies as well.

You could find a place where the cost of living is low, but the average pay would likely be low as well. Then if you moved to a place where the cost of living was high, the job would likely pay high too.

I have friends who moved to other states because they heard the job paid much better there, but they ended up having to pay a lot for their cost of living.

**Foxrac** · 10-26-2008, 08:57 AM

Remember about back in 90's, it's cheap to live in LA and food, health insurance and gas price were cheaper too and house price is around affordable to reasonable, usually off coast and Inland Empire was so cheaper like charms. The minimum wage was $4.25 in 1993, that's barely enough to live on own with roommate for full time job but now, $8 per hour, minimum wage for CA isn't enough and need find more options to support it, such as get 2nd job.

Technology in early 90's is so expensive than today.

Byrdie714 · 10-26-2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

I've been to Spokane before...I think it's a nice town but I heard that deaf community there isn't that great. Also, it's a redneck town, too. It also has a nice waterfall in downtown Spokane in the valley at 2,000' elevation. It has pretty hot summers and frigid cold winters.. pretty much a land of extremes. The winter months can go down below zero overnights and summer months hot as 100s.

True and yet one can afford to buy a house in Spokane than Seattle.

Pinky · 10-27-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

I don't expected that anyone will reply my post like that.

I was means referred as bible thumpers since Kansas is located in bible belt, it does cover in most part of southeast and lower midwest, you can PM me for more detail or look at wikipedia about define for bible thumper and bible belt, I can't explain here, also look at Fred Phelps as well.

I'm just expressed my feeling about area, social is part of my importance to consider about live in anywhere, I'm victim of bashing in 3 years ago, also PM me for more explain about situation in last 3 years ago, however I wasn't tried to offend anyone.

Okay. I understand how do you feeling. But I am not in mood right now. I am sorry. I will pm you when I have time.

IslandBreeze07 · 10-27-2008, 07:34 PM

Someone said on this thread that Miami is expensive but fun. That's why I love it. I lived in Miami for 13 years. I stopped working when it was time to have the baby and never went back to work for an employer. Rents went up big time that year so I left three years earlier than planned. If I stayed in Miami, I would HAVE had to go back to work. Out here, I don't have to work for anyone. Sometimes you decide what you can do and what you can't do...

P.S. SSDI helps a lot but I could make much more working. I'd rather be home for the lil ones and try to make $$ from here....and it's working out nicely.

IslandBreeze07 · 10-27-2008, 07:35 PM

Whoever said about the weather extremes in Spokane sounds right. My guy has family out there. I haven't been out there yet. Not too keen on flying 10 hours with lil ones, even though they are great at flying... Just too dang long with stopovers. Ugh.

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*VamPyroX* bloody phreak from hell Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 40.18, 58.41 Posts: 34,193	Usually, the cost of living varies because the pay varies as well. You could find a place where the cost of living is low, but the average pay would likely be low as well. Then if you moved to a place where the cost of living was high, the job would likely pay high too. I have friends who moved to other states because they heard the job paid much better there, but they ended up having to pay a lot for their cost of living. __________________ Check out my city... C L I C K H E R E! (If you've already visited yesterday, visit again today!)

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Foxrac Need Stormtroopers? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Zaphias Posts: 33,215	Remember about back in 90's, it's cheap to live in LA and food, health insurance and gas price were cheaper too and house price is around affordable to reasonable, usually off coast and Inland Empire was so cheaper like charms. The minimum wage was $4.25 in 1993, that's barely enough to live on own with roommate for full time job but now, $8 per hour, minimum wage for CA isn't enough and need find more options to support it, such as get 2nd job. Technology in early 90's is so expensive than today. __________________ In Moto We Trust

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IslandBreeze07 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 450	Someone said on this thread that Miami is expensive but fun. That's why I love it. I lived in Miami for 13 years. I stopped working when it was time to have the baby and never went back to work for an employer. Rents went up big time that year so I left three years earlier than planned. If I stayed in Miami, I would HAVE had to go back to work. Out here, I don't have to work for anyone. Sometimes you decide what you can do and what you can't do... P.S. SSDI helps a lot but I could make much more working. I'd rather be home for the lil ones and try to make $$ from here....and it's working out nicely. __________________ http://www.iboplus.com/KGraber http://www.mybenefitsplus.com/KGraber Life is like a farm. You have to get up early and do the chores

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IslandBreeze07 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 450	Whoever said about the weather extremes in Spokane sounds right. My guy has family out there. I haven't been out there yet. Not too keen on flying 10 hours with lil ones, even though they are great at flying... Just too dang long with stopovers. Ugh. __________________ http://www.iboplus.com/KGraber http://www.mybenefitsplus.com/KGraber Life is like a farm. You have to get up early and do the chores

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10-23-2008, 06:12 PM	#93 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,798	I imagine Sedona is pretty upscale....

10-24-2008, 11:36 AM	#95 (permalink)
sequoias Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Iowa, wind generation capital Posts: 21,948	Sedona is generally pretty expensive to live for a small town, basically. I think it's due to the beauty which surrounds the town.

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sequoias Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Iowa, wind generation capital Posts: 21,948	You know....many people thought the rain will keep residents from moving into Washington state...but not really. Washington state attracted more than 129,000 people from other states from 2000 to 2006...check this out at: Washington Bigger Cities (over 6000 residents) - Real Estate, Housing, Schools, Residents, Crime, Pollution, Demographics and More

10-25-2008, 06:03 PM	#112 (permalink)
Byrdie714 Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 8,927	Like I mentioned--Phoenix is one of the cities that we are considering moving too. We have others on the list. Next city to check out: Spokane, Washington.

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