Audiofuzzy

oh for....


I think I'd know what I wanted to say, period:
Fuzzy

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deafdyke

Lucas, yes but teen-age jobs or competitive jobs? With competiive jobs often some dumbassed middle manager will hear someone's deaf speech, and assume that they are mentally handicapped. THAT happens to me more often then not.

deafdyke

They have programs for new signers both at Gally and at NTID. As a matter of fact, 20% of NTIDers come to the school knowing NO sign. There's also financial aid isn't there? I think it would be BEYOND worth it.....you would find yourself as a Deaf man......and trust me, your experiance is very very common among oral deaf teens. Very few oral deaf teens have a High School Musical style middle/high school experiance.....Talk to your parents and see if you could go to Gally or NTID. The experiance would be amazing....and you wouldn't be the only oral (matter of fact in the old days there used to be a lot of kids from the four big oral schools that had grades (Sunshine Cottage, Clarke, St. Joseph's and CID) going there. In fact, it hasn't really been voice off for years. That's a really huge myth that deaf schools and deaf culture is some voice off no oral skills Deaf militant's paradise.

shel90

I tried that tactic and I ended up making a big fool out of myself pretending to be someone I am not. It is better to be honest.

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DeafCaroline

Fuzzy - you said that after I made it explicitly clear i was discriminated not because of good speech skills but because of my deafness.

Whatever. Like you say, let's not bicker.

Audiofuzzy

Don't feel bad because of them. They are not aware (I assume they are hearing)
of the level of difficulties you are faced with. They can't possibly understand what it's like to be you.
They'll think, understandably, by telling you "you don't need" etc they will boost your self esteem - your job is to explain to them
this is not what you need from them, and why.

If they are good friends, they will support your decision to go to
"the deaf school" and "deaf ways".
If not, then believe me, they are not worth keeping, as painful as it is.
Nobody need a source of stress and self doubt around them.

Also, there is no need for you to feel bad for ANY reason.

You just happened to be thrown into a hearing world while NOT being hearing yourself - and you did it excellently to the best of your abilities.
There is only so much you can do without any assistance- as EVERYONE of us
deaf and HoH do.
You already discovered and showed you can do it in the hearing world.

It's simply time now to explore other venues.


Good luck with discovering the Deaf life.

Fuzzy

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Audiofuzzy

I never did. Maybe I hear better than you? Maybe I speak better than you?
I am not trying to be a jackass here, it's just a possibility.

ps- please remember I was losing my hearing slowly, so it made a difference.

Fuzzy

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Audiofuzzy

groaaan. yet it is you who can't put to rest.

DC - the whole thing started with Lucas who said if you have good speech skills you may have better chances at employment :

I said I agree,

and then enter you:

My point exactly, YOUR SPEECH IS GOOD.

Nobody complained about your speech b/c your speech happened to be good.

I am astonished you still can't get my point. As it is not about you not being hired because of being deaf, this is about your speech not being an issue in this.
I get it, i get it, I get! - you needed to be able to pick a phones, hear others in a meetings etc - but do you get MY pov????
doesn't look like.
well, one can always hope.

BTW I meant to say it at the start - congratulations on becoming self employed and being your own boss!
More power to you!!
( respectful bow )


Now, on totally different subject,
suppose there was you applying somewhere else where nobody minded deaf applicants,
and there was someone else applying with no speech,
guess who'd get chosen?

I can imagine how the conversation goes:

"Well, they are both quite skilled, it's just with this one it will be a bit easier to communicate, no?... "
"Weeelllll...... wouldn't that be discrimination?"
"Weeeellll, not really, because being able to communicate in this job efficiently is a requirement, hmm"


Fuzzy

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DeafCaroline

ok.

Lavender

Who got the job first deaf or hoh?

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Frisky Feline

sad to say, hoh.

if it were at the deaf agency then it has to be deaf. ha

KristinaB

Well - I will say this. I have excellent speech skills. I do not have a deaf accent and have never sounded like a deaf person. I was told that, in those specific words, by numerous hoh and hearing people who know deaf people.

I have been turned down many times for jobs since I cannot hear. They claim I have a refusal to try HA's and CI's and therefore I am not worth their time. No amount of telling them that I am not a candidate will assure them of my points. Never mind the fact that I have numerous years experience in all kinds of things, but mostly office work. They get around the law by saying something totally different, but yet, I am told on the phone or in the interview that it's because of my lack of hearing.

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sallylou

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Kristina, are you even a candidate for CI? How can they assume refusal when you may not be a candidate?

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KristinaB

Not a candidate at all.

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