court throws prop 8 out

netrox · 08-04-2010, 04:53 PM

That is absolutely fantastic as the judge, nominated by Bush, declared the prop 8 unconstitutional!

Judge rules California's ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional - CNN.com

I agree with his statement:

"That the majority of California voters supported Proposition 8 is irrelevant, as "fundamental rights may not be submitted to [a] vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections."

Right on! If we let voters dictate, we would never have interracial marriage. We have no right to vote on someone's relationship, period.

MDCodeRedFreak · 08-04-2010, 04:56 PM

I heard about that earlier today.

Good news. Repost this in the GLBT Lounge.

**Foxrac** · 08-04-2010, 05:03 PM

That's great news, however appeals court will going hear this case before way to supreme court.

**Foxrac** · 08-04-2010, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MDCodeRedFreak

I heard about that earlier today.

Good news. Repost this in the GLBT Lounge.

All done.

netrox · 08-04-2010, 05:39 PM

I only hope that the SCOTUS will reaffirm the ruling.

**TXgolfer** · 08-04-2010, 05:53 PM

Shocking News!!!!! Openly gay Judge rules against gay marriage ban....

Good luck with the SC

**Foxrac** · 08-04-2010, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Shocking News!!!!! Openly gay Judge rules against gay marriage ban....

Good luck with the SC

SC ruling is just big surprise like christmas gift.

**sequoias** · 08-04-2010, 06:46 PM

California should have gay marriage in the first place. Iowa already have gay marriage law.

**TXgolfer** · 08-04-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

SC ruling is just big surprise like christmas gift.

Maybe......maybe not

**TXgolfer** · 08-04-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

California should have gay marriage in the first place. Iowa already have gay marriage law.

the people said no.

**sequoias** · 08-04-2010, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

the people said no.

Well, it doesn't make any sense at all. There are a ton of rednecks here and farmers as well as many old fashioned people who don't believe in gay marriage, it still passed in Iowa. That's what I don't understand at all. California has a huge population of gay people...so why didn't people understand that in the first place or is it too many international people said no?

**TXgolfer** · 08-04-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

Well, it doesn't make any sense at all. There are a ton of rednecks here and farmers as well as many old fashioned people who don't believe in gay marriage, it still passed in Iowa. That's what I don't understand at all. California has a huge population of gay people...so why didn't people understand that in the first place or is it too many international people said no?

Did Iowa vote? Or did the State Leg pass it?

**sequoias** · 08-04-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Did Iowa vote? Or did the State Leg pass it?

I really have no idea....I wish I knew. The state leg probably did. I don't know why different states have different ways of passing laws...why can't all states do the same thing?

**Foxrac** · 08-04-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Maybe......maybe not

Not what I was talking about.

I believe that would be enough judges to side with same sex marriage if Kennedy side with it to make as 5-4 and of course, he's swing judge.

**Foxrac** · 08-04-2010, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Did Iowa vote? Or did the State Leg pass it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sequoias

I really have no idea....I wish I knew. The state leg probably did. I don't know why different states have different ways of passing laws...why can't all states do the same thing?

Iowa Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage in Iowa.

**sequoias** · 08-04-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

Iowa Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage in Iowa.

Maybe the Judge in Iowa threw out the prop that the citizens voted which ruled unconstitutional and went to surpreme court to approve it?

**Foxrac** · 08-04-2010, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

Maybe the Judge in Iowa threw out the prop that the citizens voted which ruled unconstitutional and went to state surpreme court to approve it?

Probably, I added state to supreme court, it means Iowa Supreme Court, not federal Supreme Court.

**sequoias** · 08-04-2010, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

Probably, I added state to supreme court, it means Iowa Supreme Court, not federal Supreme Court.

Yeah.

**Foxrac** · 08-04-2010, 07:17 PM

I do want gay marriage to be legal in all states to prevent any conflict with state recognition of gay marriage from other states and divorce process. If you don't agree with gay marriage so don't go for it and don't bother them.

It could be done by ruling at federal supreme court but will going be years to have a landmark ruling.

**Reba** · 08-04-2010, 07:45 PM

This is bad news for America.

**Foxrac** · 08-04-2010, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reba

This is bad news for America.

This is good news for America.

**TXgolfer** · 08-04-2010, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

Not what I was talking about.

I believe that would be enough judges to side with same sex marriage if Kennedy side with it to make as 5-4 and of course, he's swing judge.

Exactly.....So maybe, maybe not. Duh

**TXgolfer** · 08-04-2010, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reba

This is bad news for America.

Yep, but it's not over yet. Like alot of things.

**Foxrac** · 08-04-2010, 07:57 PM

txgolfer, you sounds like hidden homophobia

Secretblend · 08-04-2010, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reba

This is bad news for America.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

This is good news for America.

I agree it's bad news for America but it is very good news as end of time is getting closer.

deafdyke · 08-04-2010, 07:58 PM

Reba why? Seriously, the ONLY difference between GLB and straight romantic relationships is the fact that the couples in the realtionships are of the same sex.
My friend (actually second mom's) Nancy's feelings for her girlfriend are JUST as legit as a happily married Baptist hetrosexual couple's feelings. You have a right to your beliefs, but seriously......there are ALL sorts of beliefs about what marriage should be. There's no One Right Ideal Marriage.

**Foxrac** · 08-04-2010, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Secretblend

I agree it's bad news for America but it is very good news as end of time is getting closer.

Why? If you don't like same sex marriage so just leave them alone and go on your own like anti-gay Canadians did.

PowerON · 08-04-2010, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reba

This is bad news for America.

I see salt and salt on one table.

**Foxrac** · 08-04-2010, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deafdyke

Reba why? Seriously, the ONLY difference between GLB and straight romantic relationships is the fact that the couples in the realtionships are of the same sex.
My friend (actually second mom's) Nancy's feelings for her girlfriend are JUST as legit as a happily married Baptist hetrosexual couple's feelings. You have a right to your beliefs, but seriously......there are ALL sorts of beliefs about what marriage should be. There's no One Right Ideal Marriage.

Yup, homosexual isn't choice, it was from mental, of course and I had trouble with shift in sex orientation for 6 years but finally, I accepted to be bisexual.

deafdyke · 08-04-2010, 08:00 PM

And you do know that years ago when there was debate over blacks, or interracial marriage or even deaf people marrying, there was the exact same debates and people saying it was wrong.

08-04-2010, 04:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
netrox Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,780	court throws prop 8 out That is absolutely fantastic as the judge, nominated by Bush, declared the prop 8 unconstitutional! Judge rules California's ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional - CNN.com I agree with his statement: "That the majority of California voters supported Proposition 8 is irrelevant, as "fundamental rights may not be submitted to [a] vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections." Right on! If we let voters dictate, we would never have interracial marriage. We have no right to vote on someone's relationship, period.

08-04-2010, 04:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
MDCodeRedFreak Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In a place where Code Red flows Posts: 1,642	I heard about that earlier today. Good news. Repost this in the GLBT Lounge. __________________ ~The Code Red Freak

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Foxrac Need Stormtroopers? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Zaphias Posts: 32,521	That's great news, however appeals court will going hear this case before way to supreme court. __________________ In Moto We Trust

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08-04-2010, 05:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
netrox Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,780	I only hope that the SCOTUS will reaffirm the ruling.

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sequoias Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Iowa, the land of the cornfields and pigs Posts: 21,857	California should have gay marriage in the first place. Iowa already have gay marriage law.

08-04-2010, 07:45 PM	#20 (permalink)
Reba Granny Terp Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 39,156	This is bad news for America. __________________ Tell us the truth about Benghazi!

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Foxrac Need Stormtroopers? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Zaphias Posts: 32,521	txgolfer, you sounds like hidden homophobia __________________ In Moto We Trust

08-04-2010, 07:58 PM	#26 (permalink)
deafdyke Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Trebekistan Posts: 13,083	Reba why? Seriously, the ONLY difference between GLB and straight romantic relationships is the fact that the couples in the realtionships are of the same sex. My friend (actually second mom's) Nancy's feelings for her girlfriend are JUST as legit as a happily married Baptist hetrosexual couple's feelings. You have a right to your beliefs, but seriously......there are ALL sorts of beliefs about what marriage should be. There's no One Right Ideal Marriage.

08-04-2010, 08:00 PM	#30 (permalink)
deafdyke Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Trebekistan Posts: 13,083	And you do know that years ago when there was debate over blacks, or interracial marriage or even deaf people marrying, there was the exact same debates and people saying it was wrong.

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