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I want to question at other thread yesterday but the thread of yesterday were being lock...

I am wondering since I visit several threads over SSI, SSA, SSDI issues... Some ADers complaint over SSI issues... Is it for deaf only, not hearing?

All what I see that you all kept on talking about SSI etc... Is it for deaf only?

Here in Europe is different - we received social assistance from government when we (deaf and hearing) are out of work... that's all...

If you have excellence and brilliant report at school to able go to unvitersity/college then you get subsity from government.
 
In USA...you'll need a doctor note to get approval for SSI or SSDI... a friend of mine is hearing, I think he got SSI for some reasons (ain't say it on here). I did applied SSI but they realized I used to have SSDI then switched from SSI to SSDI...more money than SSI.

SSI isn't for deafies...hearies can get it with doctor note for many reasons.

I am sure other ADers will give you some inputs.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Do you mean disablity money? (disablity allowance)
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More likely, there is many varies reason for people to get the SSI or whatever, not only deafies, but those who are blind, people without arm or legs, the elders, anybody who cannot work as due to their disability.

And my question for you, does the deafies in Germany have to work and receive the allowance?
 
Here in USA- No SSI are for hearing too? not just deaf people, only. My nephew is hearing and is on SSI as he have back problems and is not able to work. He have family to support so he got that.
 
LakeTahoe said:
Social Security Online

That's SSA's website...feel free to check in and find the answers what you are looking for. :) There are many reasons people get SSI, SSA, SSDI etc.
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Wait a min,, I thought SSA is for old people to get that. People who are on SSI normally would have to have back problems or doctors tell that person can t work due to health reasons. For SSDI,, that for those who work in goverment a long long time and that is why is more money. Reasons they want SSI and SSA and SSDI want proof if you are deaf have to have hearing test to make sure a person not lying. If they get caught lying not a handicap or no notes from doctors about proof of a person health will get a pently for that. As we all know that ssi is small money and some deaf whom never work goverment for long time is small money. There is a difference.
 
Right I know that...I just put SSA's website for Liebling to check what she wanted to find the answers...

I used to work in grocery stores, in government, and CA home for the deaf, and I got SSDI..it don't matter where you work at...as long as you work for long time...they will count 10 years of your employments and see how much you can get SSDI....

SSA is for old people but small amount.

SSI is for anyone who cannot work due to blind, deafness, no arm or legs, back problems, bad health, and so forth.


GarnetTigerMom said:
Wait a min,, I thought SSA is for old people to get that. People who are on SSI normally would have to have back problems or doctors tell that person can t work due to health reasons. For SSDI,, that for those who work in goverment a long long time and that is why is more money. Reasons they want SSI and SSA and SSDI want proof if you are deaf have to have hearing test to make sure a person not lying. If they get caught lying not a handicap or no notes from doctors about proof of a person health will get a pently for that. As we all know that ssi is small money and some deaf whom never work goverment for long time is small money. There is a difference.
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Yes hearing people too if they are disabled from performing substantial gainful activity then they may be eligible for Social Security Disability Benefits (SSDI,SSI,SSA etc )...


No, GarnetTigerMom, those who get SSA, if they haven't been working in a long time...SSI is depends on the incoming in the household etc..
 
LakeTahoe said:
SSA is for old people but small amount.

SSI is for anyone who cannot work due to blind, deafness, no arm or legs, back problems, bad health, and so forth.
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SSA is not for only for old aged people.

SSA and SSI are two different programs, funds come from different places. (SSA comes from Social Security trust fund) (SSI comes from tax revenue that people pay out of their working income)


SSA comes with retirement benefits, disability benefits and survivors benefits

SSI comes with disability and old aged benefits, unemployment.

You can get SSA if you work part-time, depends on the standard requirements.
 
Interesting the information coming from states vary the issues ssi, ssa, ssdi and etc..


In Canada does have different vary so many major issues..

ODSP= Ontario Disability Support Program (ODSP)
soruce: Ministry of Community and Social Services - Programs, Services and Supports

WELFARE= Welfare simlair Ontario works..
"The Social Assistance Reform Act, 1997, created two separate statutes, the Ontario Works Act (OWA), 1997, and the Ontario Disability Support Program Act (ODSPA), 1997. The OWA was proclaimed May 1, 1998, replacing the General Welfare Act (GWA). ODSPA was proclaimed June 1, 1998. People with disabilities and permanently unemployable people under the Family Benefits Act were transferred to the Ontario Disability Support Program on June 1, 1998. Sole-support parents under FBA have been transferred to Ontario Works.

Ontario Works provides employment assistance and financial assistance to eligible persons in temporary financial need. The municipalities and First Nations communities deliver Ontario Works. Basic assistance and benefits are cost-shared with Consolidated Municipal Service Managers and First Nations Delivery Agents. The Government of Canada covers the 20 percent First Nations share.

The Ontario Disability Support Program (ODSP) provides income and employment supports to people with disabilities. The province delivers ODSP and the program is cost-shared with municipalities at a rate of 80/20."
source: Ministry of Community and Social Services - Programs, Services and Supports

CPP= Canada Pension Plan (CPP)
Source: Canada Pension Plan (CPP) - Retirement Pension

I think, everything I have info...
I'll ask around my hubby about other more details further....
 
SSI is a temporary support offered to anyone with a disability while they are in school, or training for a job, or looking for employment after they have completed their education or training. You don't have to have paid into the system by having SS taxes taken out of your paycheck in order to receive SSI. You do need documentation of your disability.

SSDI is disability income. To qualify for SSDI, you must have been employed at some time, and the benefits you receive are based on how much you paid into the system when you were working. To qualify, one must be permanently disabled to the degree that there is no job you can do to earn an income. It is very difficult to receive SSDI before age 50, as it is generally believed that younger persons can be re-trained to do another job that is not affected by their disability. You must also have documentation from a doctor detailing your disability, and the SS board wil bring in job coaches, psychologists, disability counselors, etc. to testify at your hearing. SSDI is genrelly reserved for non-disabled people who have worked all thier lives, but have been somehow injured and become disabled. If your disability is the result of a work related injury, the Bureau of Worker's Compensation also becomes involved, and you may be awarded a set amount from that agency.

Unemployment Insurance is a minimal amount of monetary assistance to help those who are out of work for reasons other than disability while they look for another job.
 
wow interesting....

Thank you for share postive posts here.

I will be back for further post later.
 
I have a parttime Job! I am still part of SSI for paying my suppot living :) what about germany?? Ummm
 
If you're working for less than $900, you can get SSI for up to 9 months. The SSA has a new program PASS (IRCC) to get you to work. Beside, if you are on SSI or SSDI and you're 65/67, your retirement benefits will be very small compared to a deaf person who worked his/her ass off for 20-40 years and will get a nice pension and benefits plan.

remember, SSI and SSDI are fromthe federal government budget, whomin turn is from tax dollars from people like me and you and all the deaf and hering people who are working......
 
No, that is not right.

For SSI, for any income from any work

First 65 dollars of your job income does not count
then every 2 dollars you get from work, the SSI will cut by a dollar.
If you marry to a spouse, your spouse income WILL be counted.
no 9 months grace period available for SSI

I know it because I am still fighting with SSI and SSDi

"Reasonable" Car is no longer counted as resources like they used to be.

For SSDi, current is 850 dollars max, if you didn't go over 850 dollars a month and/or less than 20 hours a week you keep all income indefinetly
However if you earn more than 850 or more than 20 hours a week, you will hit 9 month grace period for every month you earn more than 850 or more than 20 hours After that, you get zero from SSDI,
850 dollars will go up to 900 in January 2008.
If you marry to a spouse, your spouse income will NOT be counted.


My final word, I KNOW SSA system very well, they are NOT trustable! They kept changing rules themselves and get you confused and you may end up owe $ and have your credit rating screwed.

DURAY said:
If you're working for less than $900, you can get SSI for up to 9 months. The SSA has a new program PASS (IRCC) to get you to work. Beside, if you are on SSI or SSDI and you're 65/67, your retirement benefits will be very small compared to a deaf person who worked his/her ass off for 20-40 years and will get a nice pension and benefits plan.

remember, SSI and SSDI are fromthe federal government budget, whomin turn is from tax dollars from people like me and you and all the deaf and hering people who are working......
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diehardbiker, I've met many deaf people in the DC area who owed the SSA money (from $900 to even $15,000). How are they caught? The SSA crossmatched with the IRS by SSN number and they flagged anyone who earned more than they supposed to. Many deaf people worked at the IRS - there is no privacy in the deaf world.

better work if you can instead of earning SSI or SSDI.

And the number of deaf families with deaf children collecting SSI is very high. Go to Frederick or Staunton or Fremont.
 
XBGMER said:
I have a parttime Job! I am still part of SSI for paying my suppot living :) what about germany?? Ummm
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Forgive me for not reply your question an earlier.

First of all, I am interesting to learn about US system about SSI, SSDI, SSA, etc which is different here in Germany.

We have an obligation insurance for unemployment. I will get money back from unemployment insurance when I am out of work.

We don't have similar system as in America.

The people get money from insurance system if they are unable to go work accord doctor's order. They need to prove that they are really unable to go work then they will get money as long as they are alive until they are between 60 and 65 years old then get pension from insurance system. OR accident at work place - Employer have to pay their employees rest of live if they are unable to go work after severe work accident in their company/firma.

The people get social assistant from Social Department to survive themselves if they have no job or go high school/unvitersity... Those tax, we work to pay to help the people to be survive or study for their future.

The people receive monthly disablity allowance no matter either they have job or not. We (deaf Bavarians) don't have disablity allowance but blind and severe disabled people. We (deaf) received 2,800 EUR tax free a year in wage slip.
 
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