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A Law Review of Cued Speech in Educational Settings
On Cue Volume 24 Issue 1 Spring 2010
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Cued Speech have in fact, been in a "nascent" position for 50 years. Guess that's what the court spotted, too. Why is this obvious to everyone except NCSA? |
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Yes, it is relatively new, but only compared to ASL, auditory oral and auditory verbal. If it has been around so long, then how come it hasn't taken off?
The answer is simple. This is basicly the same thing as Hooked on Phonics vs. a whole language approach. |
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And yes, I have met them. Their English still sucks.
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The victimization of yourself is just getting tiresome. |
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And how many is that? Seriously u are ok with children growing up with language developmet under an artificial system? Why is that ok for deaf children to be put at risks like that? The fact is still there no matter how u deny it..people here have met deaf children with poor literacy skills because they weren't exposed to natural language fully. It is just wrong. That's why we stick with ASL and English..not invented systems...only use them as teaching tools.
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Here is the blog of a local guy in my Deaf community who grew up Cuing. He prefers Cued speech not ASL. He has that right, and so does his family. The deaf boy in the world... Why are so many people afraid of choices? |
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You seems a bit lost here, IMHO. |
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And, sorry, I don't really get your point here. You aren't coming up with anything new. |
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How am I "lost" here when I suggested Netrox for further info? Are you making your angst clear about cued speech per se or against NCSA? You already unnecessarily attacked faire jour which draws the attention to you, and not about cued speech.
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Again and again people say that ASL-English bi-bi is the only acceptable choice for educating children with a hearing loss. Every other choice is "not language just speech" or going to cause "long term negative effects". There are examples of successful people using all modalities every single day, so clearly there is not "one right way".
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Rather presumptious of you. I asked you a question since it seems that you are the one who has gotten personal in the first place by going after faire jour. What are you really angry about? Faire jour? Cued speech per se? NCSA? I can understand when making arguments but that doesn't work when used in a fashion to go after individuals. It makes it a personal one. That's what I'm seeing here unless I'm wrong then let us know.
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I believe all the people who are against the AB 2072, many people in DBC, AFA, DNIA, and anyone and everyone who believes that their way is the only right way.These are all people who seek to take away a parent's right to choose the language and modality of their communication with their own children. Some of the organazations have even called for the end of cochlear implants for children, which is CLEARLY against choice.
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I know literally nothing about NCSA.
As for AG Bell, I believe they support what they support but they are not trying to force anyone to believe what they believe. They do not advocate against choice. They think ASL is a ligetimate choice but it is not within their field of knowledge so if you want support and advocacy for ASL, they are not the ones you should seek that information from. In my experience, they have never said that ASL should be stopped, or that all parents should be forced to do oral only first. They have a bias, but they do not think their way is the only right way. |
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This post by loml is telling.
For new hearing parents... A positive story. "I struggle with the entire "ASL natural language" business, it is "natural" for humans to voice. The "deaf culture stuff": children belong with their family culture." |
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