Dangerous Snow Driving - Page 2

rolling7 · 01-10-2012, 10:43 AM

I'm sure those members that have experience of the heavy snow have this problem also. Yesterday (Monday) Houston got the first heavy rain in over a year and it really poured down. Of course the streets were flooded and cars were stuck in the streets and roads due to stupid drivers not just pulling over and/or staying off the road (I stayed home). But the most ridicules thing is the 18-wheelers flying by and putting up a wall of water that covered many cars. Their height gives them an advantage but the drivers are the meanest people in the world to do what they knew would happen when they drove through fast. Same thing probably happens to you guys with the snow and I feel for you too.

**Cheetah** · 01-11-2012, 12:33 PM

I've always wanted to put a driving cam in my car. You never know when you might need or want to review what happened. Sometimes things happen so fast you are unable to process the entire situation.

This driver looks like he is a smart driver. Keeping tabs of the situation and having an "escape" route (off to the side around the other cars). Also not letting himself get rear ended. the Semi that plowed through was pretty scary though! We don't know though what happened in the 30 seconds before this video started. Could he see what was ahead of him? was he slowing down?

**Kalista** · 01-11-2012, 04:21 PM

Alaska has 18 feet of snow Yikes

diehardbiker · 01-11-2012, 06:47 PM

It pays to use your head! Glad your using head and duck fast enough. Scary, yeah!

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

I was almost killed on icy roads years ago. Heavy snow and a tractor trailer jack knifed in the opposite lane (on coming traffic) and was sliding right at me - its trailer was covering my lane. I had to drive into a ditch to avoid getting hit head on.

deafdrummer · 01-12-2012, 11:36 AM

I drove through that hell of a rain storm in Houston the other day! What a drive that was! I had my Jeep Wrangler in 4-hi, and I took it slow. In fact, the design of the Jeep's front end causes water to splash up on the windshield in deep water if you're going more than 15-20 miles an hour. You're blinded, so you have to drive even slower. It rained so much parts of town got flooded and lines and trees went down. The air was so thick-pea-soup that it was literally gray-greenish in front of me! You could see but 40 feet ahead of you, and water was well over the sidewalks in places (I had water in my Jeep, too! I just pulled the drain plugs, washed the carpets, and sopped up the rest of the water). A tree was down in my direction of travel to work that morning, but it wasn't long enough to force me to try out driving over the small tree medians in the middle of the street (this is not a highway median with 3-feet ditches, so don't panic). Wind was blowing, too!

I was excited, but of course I used my head in avoiding certain things. I would never do this in the Corolla I had before. I would e-mail work to let them know I wouldn't make it in that situation. Anyway, I knew that the route does not have drainage ports capable of swallowing whole cars (like the ones along I-10 did one time a while back before they had their grates installed in place) - a while back in another major storm, a driver in a Toyota RAV4 was found DEAD 1,000 feet inside the drainage pipe, and you could see places where there were paint marks and tire marks up on the top side of the pipe!

Water in any form can be deadly.

Jane B. · 01-12-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by deafdrummer

I drove through that hell of a rain storm in Houston the other day! What a drive that was! I had my Jeep Wrangler in 4-hi, and I took it slow. In fact, the design of the Jeep's front end causes water to splash up on the windshield in deep water if you're going more than 15-20 miles an hour. You're blinded, so you have to drive even slower. It rained so much parts of town got flooded and lines and trees went down. The air was so thick-pea-soup that it was literally gray-greenish in front of me! You could see but 40 feet ahead of you, and water was well over the sidewalks in places (I had water in my Jeep, too! I just pulled the drain plugs, washed the carpets, and sopped up the rest of the water). A tree was down in my direction of travel to work that morning, but it wasn't long enough to force me to try out driving over the small tree medians in the middle of the street (this is not a highway median with 3-feet ditches, so don't panic). Wind was blowing, too!

I was excited, but of course I used my head in avoiding certain things. I would never do this in the Corolla I had before. I would e-mail work to let them know I wouldn't make it in that situation. Anyway, I knew that the route does not have drainage ports capable of swallowing whole cars (like the ones along I-10 did one time a while back before they had their grates installed in place) - a while back in another major storm, a driver in a Toyota RAV4 was found DEAD 1,000 feet inside the drainage pipe, and you could see places where there were paint marks and tire marks up on the top side of the pipe!

Water in any form can be deadly.

I had friends living in Houston in the late 1970's-early '80's and they deliberately did not buy vehicles with power windows because of the way so many of the underpasses would floor so quickly. They were afraid of getting caught in a flash flood, needing to get out of vehicle but not being able to because of power shorted out.

rolling7 · 01-12-2012, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jane B.

I had friends living in Houston in the late 1970's-early '80's and they deliberately did not buy vehicles with power windows because of the way so many of the underpasses would floor so quickly. They were afraid of getting caught in a flash flood, needing to get out of vehicle but not being able to because of power shorted out.

Yes, this happens even today, not only in Houston but elsewhere also. People just panic and don't realize they need to break the window to get out. That is why I carry a punch inside my car so I can break the glass if needed and a knife to cut the seat belt if necessary. People do need to plan for an emergency.
A few weeks ago a family from the Houston traveled to snow ski and got caught in a storm and the snow pack was over the roof of the car. However, they were extremely lucky to have provisions and a cell phone with GPS to get to the help they needed. So snow or rain it does not matter.....stay home....your life will thank you.

DeafTim · 01-12-2012, 04:37 PM

crazy

deafdrummer · 01-13-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jane B.

I had friends living in Houston in the late 1970's-early '80's and they deliberately did not buy vehicles with power windows because of the way so many of the underpasses would floor so quickly. They were afraid of getting caught in a flash flood, needing to get out of vehicle but not being able to because of power shorted out.

That is why I drive vehicles with manual locks and windows. I may have to do that in the back country.

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Yes, this happens even today, not only in Houston but elsewhere also. People just panic and don't realize they need to break the window to get out. That is why I carry a punch inside my car so I can break the glass if needed and a knife to cut the seat belt if necessary. People do need to plan for an emergency.

Are you sure you can break the window? Check this out. A mother found her babies locked inside a car and couldn't get back inside. See what was required to break the window out at about 2:40. Notice in the beginning that the skateboarder couldn't break the driver's window open.

Babies Locked in Car | Skaters Save Babies In Car | Skate Video | Mediaite

What the original poster of the video and the article fail to indicate is how dangerous these power windows are in a flood situation. AND, do not forget to roll your window down BEFORE you cross substantial water on the trail.

purplecatty · 01-13-2012, 10:03 PM

Sheesh, lot of people don't know what snow could do to their vehicle when they drive like normal. I've seen trucks or car spun around and landed on ditch. I usually slows down when it's snowing or icy. If it's 70mph on highway, I would slow down to 30mph. It's basically common sense if driving under 35mph during snowy weather. Some driver tried to pass by me ended up spinning around their vehicle and I had to slow to avoid and kept going.

Here in Kansas, we do have harsh winter sometime. In January afternoon, it can be around 50 degree then it'll drop to 20 degree in the evening. Ice form quickly, causing road become slick like "black ice". Those who live in KS and MO many years do not have problems driving on this road condition BUT those who moved from another state have tendency to cause accidents because they are not familiar with Kansas weather. Last year, we had snow and ice in month of January which was the coldest month each year. I drove slow on Dodge Durango. I don't even have 4x4 at all but made it on the way to work and back home without problems.

Also during rainy season, some stupid jerks drive fast and it's their problem if they slammed brake and ending up in an accident.

Catty

whatdidyousay! · 01-14-2012, 01:13 PM

We only had one and a half inches of snow so far this winter! CRAZY!!

**KristinaB** · 01-14-2012, 06:48 PM

I don't miss snow. I don't miss winter driving. I don't miss snow, I don't miss winter driving.

Oh - I said that already. Sorry!!

DeafTim · 01-17-2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

We only had one and a half inches of snow so far this winter! CRAZY!!

Where you live? Git this, we had 4 inches of snow(two days) last week. Very cold over the weekend. Yesterday,all the snow melt and today we had big rain storms. Crazy ass mother nature. Ohio still under average for snow...smh

DeafCaroline · 01-17-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by purplecatty

Sheesh, lot of people don't know what snow could do to their vehicle when they drive like normal. I've seen trucks or car spun around and landed on ditch. I usually slows down when it's snowing or icy. If it's 70mph on highway, I would slow down to 30mph. It's basically common sense if driving under 35mph during snowy weather. Some driver tried to pass by me ended up spinning around their vehicle and I had to slow to avoid and kept going.

Here in Kansas, we do have harsh winter sometime. In January afternoon, it can be around 50 degree then it'll drop to 20 degree in the evening. Ice form quickly, causing road become slick like "black ice". Those who live in KS and MO many years do not have problems driving on this road condition BUT those who moved from another state have tendency to cause accidents because they are not familiar with Kansas weather. Last year, we had snow and ice in month of January which was the coldest month each year. I drove slow on Dodge Durango. I don't even have 4x4 at all but made it on the way to work and back home without problems.

Also during rainy season, some stupid jerks drive fast and it's their problem if they slammed brake and ending up in an accident.

Catty

Ice is far more dangerous than snow. That's why I got studded winter tires...love them! I can brake on ice, no problem.

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01-10-2012, 10:43 AM	#31 (permalink)
rolling7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,340	I'm sure those members that have experience of the heavy snow have this problem also. Yesterday (Monday) Houston got the first heavy rain in over a year and it really poured down. Of course the streets were flooded and cars were stuck in the streets and roads due to stupid drivers not just pulling over and/or staying off the road (I stayed home). But the most ridicules thing is the 18-wheelers flying by and putting up a wall of water that covered many cars. Their height gives them an advantage but the drivers are the meanest people in the world to do what they knew would happen when they drove through fast. Same thing probably happens to you guys with the snow and I feel for you too.

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01-11-2012, 04:21 PM	#33 (permalink)
Kalista Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 8,112	Alaska has 18 feet of snow Yikes

01-12-2012, 11:36 AM	#35 (permalink)
deafdrummer Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Preparing to evacuate from Houston, TX Posts: 1,010	I drove through that hell of a rain storm in Houston the other day! What a drive that was! I had my Jeep Wrangler in 4-hi, and I took it slow. In fact, the design of the Jeep's front end causes water to splash up on the windshield in deep water if you're going more than 15-20 miles an hour. You're blinded, so you have to drive even slower. It rained so much parts of town got flooded and lines and trees went down. The air was so thick-pea-soup that it was literally gray-greenish in front of me! You could see but 40 feet ahead of you, and water was well over the sidewalks in places (I had water in my Jeep, too! I just pulled the drain plugs, washed the carpets, and sopped up the rest of the water). A tree was down in my direction of travel to work that morning, but it wasn't long enough to force me to try out driving over the small tree medians in the middle of the street (this is not a highway median with 3-feet ditches, so don't panic). Wind was blowing, too! I was excited, but of course I used my head in avoiding certain things. I would never do this in the Corolla I had before. I would e-mail work to let them know I wouldn't make it in that situation. Anyway, I knew that the route does not have drainage ports capable of swallowing whole cars (like the ones along I-10 did one time a while back before they had their grates installed in place) - a while back in another major storm, a driver in a Toyota RAV4 was found DEAD 1,000 feet inside the drainage pipe, and you could see places where there were paint marks and tire marks up on the top side of the pipe! Water in any form can be deadly.

01-13-2012, 10:03 PM	#40 (permalink)
purplecatty Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Center of the USA Posts: 3,609	Sheesh, lot of people don't know what snow could do to their vehicle when they drive like normal. I've seen trucks or car spun around and landed on ditch. I usually slows down when it's snowing or icy. If it's 70mph on highway, I would slow down to 30mph. It's basically common sense if driving under 35mph during snowy weather. Some driver tried to pass by me ended up spinning around their vehicle and I had to slow to avoid and kept going. Here in Kansas, we do have harsh winter sometime. In January afternoon, it can be around 50 degree then it'll drop to 20 degree in the evening. Ice form quickly, causing road become slick like "black ice". Those who live in KS and MO many years do not have problems driving on this road condition BUT those who moved from another state have tendency to cause accidents because they are not familiar with Kansas weather. Last year, we had snow and ice in month of January which was the coldest month each year. I drove slow on Dodge Durango. I don't even have 4x4 at all but made it on the way to work and back home without problems. Also during rainy season, some stupid jerks drive fast and it's their problem if they slammed brake and ending up in an accident. Catty

01-14-2012, 01:13 PM	#41 (permalink)
whatdidyousay! Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 8,618	We only had one and a half inches of snow so far this winter! CRAZY!!