Should the world's oldest wine bottle be opened?

Royale · 12-10-2011, 10:08 PM

World's oldest bottle of wine: Historians debate whether to open 350AD vintage | Mail Online

Should they open or leave it alone?

What do u think?

kokonut · 12-10-2011, 10:15 PM

Open it!

Party time....!

posts from hell · 12-10-2011, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Royale

World's oldest bottle of wine: Historians debate whether to open 350AD vintage | Mail Online

Should they open or leave it alone?

What do u think?

Nah, vinegar'd.

No questions.

jillio · 12-10-2011, 10:22 PM

I don't see what purpose could possibly be served by opening it.

**Bottesini** · 12-10-2011, 10:23 PM

Would they be trying to see what changes in plants in that area, since 350 AD?

jillio · 12-10-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

Would they be trying to see what changes in plants in that area, since 350 AD?

I don't know. Possibly. But one has to wonder if, as old as it is, exposure to the air would case such rapid decompensation that it could not be analyzed anyway.

Grummer · 12-11-2011, 02:09 AM

agreed, its pointless

dereksbicycles · 12-11-2011, 04:53 AM

So will you drink a 1,650 years old orange juice or apple juice? So I am not sure the point of opening this one.

Frisky Feline · 12-11-2011, 06:02 AM

once it opens and life is over in a second!

dont ask me why because i found it so hilarious.

**shel90** · 12-11-2011, 07:31 AM

It has been closed all this time, why the need to open it now? Besides it doesnt look edible. lol

Tousi · 12-11-2011, 11:54 AM

Looks like sludge and the content would have to be disposed of if opened so why open it?

**TWA** · 12-11-2011, 12:09 PM

Eh, I heard the AD350s peaked around the Dark Ages. Quaffable? Perhaps, but this is definitely past its prime. Tannins will be muted, and a slight mustiness and mushroom aroma. Could benefit from some aeration, but served with a roasted goat and gladiator entertainment, you might have a delightful evening with it.

whatdidyousay! · 12-11-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Looks like sludge and the content would have to be disposed of if opened so why open it?

I agree it does looks sludge and who know what else is growing in it?? Maybe is a pod from outer space!!

kokonut · 12-11-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Looks like sludge and the content would have to be disposed of if opened so why open it?

Gotta smell and perhaps taste what a 700+ year old bottled wine smell and taste like.

Who knows what science might learn from this very old wine. Maybe stumble across a scientific finding that will rock the wine world!!

Open the wine bottle!!

AlleyCat · 12-11-2011, 01:59 PM

I say open it, yeah, if nothing more than curiosity and experimentation. But to drink, no way. It will be "bad" by now.

kokonut · 12-11-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

It has been closed all this time, why the need to open it now? Besides it doesnt look edible. lol

Edible? Well, I've seen worse and the below link doesn't do justice./

Top 10 Weirdest Drinks Of The World | ifood.tv

**mbrek** · 12-11-2011, 02:09 PM

Sad to make it so long without opening it - why bother now?

kokonut · 12-11-2011, 02:20 PM

Because...it is there. Sitting on the shelf...taunting and daring people, "Open me. Open me! Open meeee!"

THE OLDEST DRINKABLE WINE IN EXISTENCE | 2oceansvibe.com

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We’ve talked about children and wine education before. And recently about divers finding old wine under the sea. So I was surprised to stumble on a reference in a book I was reading to my kids the other day, The Fantastic Undersea Life of Jacques Cousteau, by Dan Yaccarino. “When diving in the waters near France,” Yaccarino writes, “Cousteau and his crew found a sunken ship full of wine jars over 2,200 years old! They tasted the wine. Alas, it was bitter.” My seven-year-old son thought it was cool to taste something outrageously old, even if it was “bitter.” (Apparently, Cousteau’s comment at the time was that it was “a poor vintage.”) Here’s the same 1952 discovery in another book, for grown-ups: “[Cousteau] checked his depth gauge. Two hundred and fifty feet. … He tripped his reserve valve to give himself an extra five minutes. … And there it was. Looking like an object in a museum … an amphora lay half buried on the slope in front of him. With the last measure of his strength, Cousteau pulled the amphora free of the bottom.” Funny we get the tasting notes in the kids’ book. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find any video from on-board the Calypso. But I’m sure it was captured in the ABC series “The Undersea World of Jacques Cousteau.”

Jacques Cousteau and the amphora [children's books] | WineCultureProject

Jacques Cousteau: The Sea King - Brad Matsen - Google Books

**shel90** · 12-11-2011, 02:22 PM

I hope Cheetah will come in here and give us his insights.

kokonut · 12-11-2011, 02:23 PM

Besides, do a quick test and see if acetobacter is present in the wine, then you know it's turned to vinegar.

jillio · 12-11-2011, 02:28 PM

700+ year old bottle of wine? Someone needs to check their math. (post 14).

**mbrek** · 12-11-2011, 02:29 PM

^^^Oh, yeah... big time! Try 1661 years.

kokonut · 12-11-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AlleyCat

I say open it, yeah, if nothing more than curiosity and experimentation. But to drink, no way. It will be "bad" by now.

Yeah, well a 1700 (edited: it's really 1661 years old, but ah, close enufff) year old wine versus Jacque Cousteau's 2200 year wine he drank. Granted, bottled wine preserved beneath the very cool ocean waters played a role. To be "drinkable" might be the very question people are curious about at this point.

jillio · 12-11-2011, 02:34 PM

Nice backpedal.

posts from hell · 12-11-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Besides, do a quick test and see if acetobacter is present in the wine, then you know it's turned to vinegar.

acetobacter is present in all the wine we drink, just a fyi.

jillio · 12-11-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

acetobacter is present in all the wine we drink, just a fyi.

Right. It is not the presence but the levels that are important.

**Beowulf** · 12-11-2011, 05:56 PM

Gimme that bottle. I want to christen a boat.

jillio · 12-11-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Gimme that bottle. I want to christen a boat.

It would probably eat right through the paint!

**Beowulf** · 12-11-2011, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

It would probably eat right through the paint!

It'll take care of them barnacles, though.

**sequoias** · 12-11-2011, 06:58 PM

Will it blend?

12-10-2011, 10:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
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12-10-2011, 10:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	Open it! Party time....! __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

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shel90 Let It Snow!!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: A place where crabs are popular Posts: 40,303 Blog Entries: 3	It has been closed all this time, why the need to open it now? Besides it doesnt look edible. lol __________________ "Wine improves with age. The older I get, the better I like it." --- Anonymous

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12-10-2011, 10:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 60,296	I don't see what purpose could possibly be served by opening it.

12-11-2011, 04:53 AM	#8 (permalink)
dereksbicycles Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: 60202 Posts: 3,808	So will you drink a 1,650 years old orange juice or apple juice? So I am not sure the point of opening this one.

12-11-2011, 06:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
Frisky Feline Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 20,239	once it opens and life is over in a second! dont ask me why because i found it so hilarious.

12-11-2011, 11:54 AM	#11 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,733	Looks like sludge and the content would have to be disposed of if opened so why open it?

12-11-2011, 12:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
TWA Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,374	Eh, I heard the AD350s peaked around the Dark Ages. Quaffable? Perhaps, but this is definitely past its prime. Tannins will be muted, and a slight mustiness and mushroom aroma. Could benefit from some aeration, but served with a roasted goat and gladiator entertainment, you might have a delightful evening with it. jillio and airportcop like this.

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AlleyCat Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In my time zone Posts: 10,819	I say open it, yeah, if nothing more than curiosity and experimentation. But to drink, no way. It will be "bad" by now.

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mbrek Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,512 Blog Entries: 1	Sad to make it so long without opening it - why bother now? __________________ Sarcasm - just another little service I offer.

12-11-2011, 02:22 PM	#19 (permalink)
shel90 Let It Snow!!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: A place where crabs are popular Posts: 40,303 Blog Entries: 3	I hope Cheetah will come in here and give us his insights. jillio likes this. __________________ "Wine improves with age. The older I get, the better I like it." --- Anonymous

12-11-2011, 02:23 PM	#20 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	Besides, do a quick test and see if acetobacter is present in the wine, then you know it's turned to vinegar. __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

12-11-2011, 02:28 PM	#21 (permalink)
jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 60,296	700+ year old bottle of wine? Someone needs to check their math. (post 14).

12-11-2011, 02:29 PM	#22 (permalink)
mbrek Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,512 Blog Entries: 1	^^^Oh, yeah... big time! Try 1661 years. jillio likes this. __________________ Sarcasm - just another little service I offer.

12-11-2011, 02:34 PM	#24 (permalink)
jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 60,296	Nice backpedal.

12-11-2011, 05:56 PM	#27 (permalink)
Beowulf Premium Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 10,515	Gimme that bottle. I want to christen a boat. __________________ .

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