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Yes, obligation taxes and social insurances are being removed from our monthly wage automatic. We receive EUR 154 per child a month from Government, no matter either I have a job or not. I have 2 boys which mean is I receive total 308 EUR per month until my boys get job with their income limited (their monthly income should be under 800 EUR per month... I will lost child allowance if my boys's month earn over 800 EUR... Child allowance remains until my boys finish with their univerisity or to age 25. You have 8 person in household? How many children do you have? Do you have child allowance in America? We need to go work to keep our house survive and support our family life. It's impossible to keep our house survive if one of us are out of work. I thought Americans work to pay taxes to federal government, don't they? |
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I born and raise in England and live in Germany at over 22 years ago. I know British health system... It's definitely sucker but I heard that UK health system goes improve time to time than before. I don't know either it's true or not. Some friends who live in England said positive things and some not. |
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Exactly
![]() We work to pay social insurances (healthcare, nursing care, pension and unemployment) and taxes every month under my hubby's health insurance at Bosch company as "family insurance". All what my family & I do is carry our health insurance card to show doctors and hospital etc then the treatment, therapies, surgery etc for goes direct to our health insurance automatic. I will get free medical care if I am out of work. |
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how could the people can afford to get themselves when they are out of work? how could the people can afford to get expensive insurance themselves when they get low wage? That's why I am for Hillary's support plan because everyone (yes, I mean everyone) should pay health insurance if they are work and support the others who are out of work or living on pension money. Its about support each other. I do not support to help just children but everyone because they need our medical help badly to survive. |
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Even that is not really "free"; someone still pays for it.
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You and other members pay into the health insurance. Therefor, your medical care is not "free".
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![]() Did you know how much head surgery cost, my son had at 2 years ago? I am realllllyyyyyy gllllaaaaddddd that I have health insurance for our family safety.... |
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Who will pay for the additional medical services that Hillary proposes? If my taxes increase to pay for her programs, then I will have less money to pay for my own medical needs.
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Health insurance pays for everything with your money. You (or other people) actually pay for it without realizing it. Nothing is free (except maybe for thieves, heh, heh).
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Example: I pay $100 for health insurance per month... It doesn't mean that they cover $100 for my son's head surgery that's because I pay $100 to health insurance? |
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I can't give details (for privacy reasons) but let me tell you that critically ill poor children (of all races) do get taken care of, including transplants. It's not easy but it can be done. And the staff do not treat them like "charity cases". I've seen it.
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Canada don't make much money as they decide go to shop here in US which is much cheap than in Canada to save their ass. |
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In USA, we do have medicare from payroll, that is part of tax from SS.
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Check my thread. It explains http://www.alldeaf.com/general-chat/...ies-world.html I work to pay social insurances (health, nursing care, pension and unemployment) AND taxes (Gross tax, solidarity tax and Church tax) My Employer and I as employee or worker pay social insurances and taxes 50%-50%. I used to work in England and paid health insurance, pension insurance and gross tax. It goes the same with Canada and other European countries as well. Quote:
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You don´t get it either. I explained Reba in my previous post... That's why I am for Hillary's support plan because everyone (yes, I mean everyone) should pay health insurance if they are work and support the others who are out of work or living on pension money. Its about support each other. I really have no problem for that. I rather to help people with my money because their health come first before war issues. ![]() I don´t beleive that Canadians went to USA for medical care since they have everything what they need in their country. |
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Yes I know but it could be happened one of you some day if you donīt have health insurance.
I remember one former ADer who told us the story in other forum at several years ago that she and her hubby are worker and donīt have health insurance until the happend to her hubby. Her hubby fall down from the ladder and his arm or leg fractured and surgery... It cost them $10,000. Those situation cost their hassle and stress... after that bad experience, they decided to insure healthcare... They make sure that it wonīt happen again. They made monthly payment to doctor until the debt is end... |
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on their own. One college student that is home on weekends, my husband, myself and my mother. My mother pays her own medical from medicare and extra private insurance. We do not have an allowance but something almost as good. At the end of each year you can take a certain amount off of your taxes for each child. So I don't have to pay as much in taxes with all my little ones. (something Hillary would like to take away) The federal government takes our taxes, and the state government takes our taxes. These are listed on our checks, every thing the government takes out. If you look at all that is taken out you begin to get suspicious because you think "where is all that money going?" and we should have free health care and spas with all that money coming out of pay checks." I would much rather make payments to end a debt and therefor only have to pay when is necessary than to have the govt take more money when I am not using it. And like Reba says, if we were to have any really huge debt, there are govt programs you can file for that will pay your medical bills. Say one of my kids had an accident and I owed a $10,000 medical bill. Then I would apply for the Oregon Health Care plan. I didn't do it for $300 because I would rather make payments than cause another taxpayer to have to help pay for my kids medical bills. As I said there is already enough taken out of checks for taxes. If anything it is the governments fault for using the money they already get in unneccasary spending, like when Bill Clinton got that $700 hair cut on the airplane. Does anyone else here remember that? I would have cut his hair for $20 and saved the taxpayers some money. I would have even slapped his hand if he tried to sneak a feel!
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once per day is anti-viral and will shorten the duration of a cold. I talked to an emergency room doctor here who was from Romania. She said that here if she tells someone to drink herbal tea and hot lemon with ginger like she does for a sore throat, that she could lose her liscense to practice medicine over here! |
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Did she have to take a gun to force the doctor to help her hubby? No. An unexpected accident is always a "hassle and stress". But he did get medical care, right? That situation isn't even close to the movie story.
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Medicaid is for disabled and/or poor people regardless of age.
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I totally dont support her...sorry but her husband has been doing all the work it seems.... also i heard on the radio...that she went to a resturant && didnt leave a tip to the waitress... thats totally not cool....I'm sorry but my votes going somewhere else if i could actually vote...i'm only 16 so i cant yet vote...
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Hospital Waiting Lists In Canada http://downloads.heartland.org/20320.pdf Here's one section: Quote:
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More tax, more quick to get people see doctor no money for vacation (rat!) Less tax, long listing to get people to see doctor holiday for vacation (hello Hawaii!) None are win-win situation |
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