White House needs to tighten security

Freedom of press, there is no way govt can stop them.
Actually, they can. Some of the hearings will be classified, and those will be held in private, without the press.

However, the events they've discussed so far were observed by members of the public, so there's no way to cover up those.

For example, the shooting was heard by passers-by on the street, and the guy who jumped the fence was seen and recorded by other passers-by. The incident with the President and the fake interpreter at Mandela's funeral was broadcast on international TV and youtube. The incident with the drunken agents overseas was observed by local people.
 
I saw that on the news , and I can't help but wonder should this really be on the news , now terrorists know how easy it's get pass the White House security . Why are we advertising this all over the news how weak our security is ?
I'm afraid they may be taking notes. :(

I heard one security expert on TV say that he's surprised that there hasn't yet been an assassination. He says we've just been "lucky" so far. That's very troublesome.
 
Technically, they can... ONLY if it is not happening in public, but since it happens outside on front lawn in plain view from public, the chances are somebody already saw em, no way to stop that. S

So, since it is in public... SOL



Actually, they can. Some of the hearings will be classified, and those will be held in private, without the press.

However, the events they've discussed so far were observed by members of the public, so there's no way to cover up those.

For example, the shooting was heard by passers-by on the street, and the guy who jumped the fence was seen and recorded by other passers-by. The incident with the President and the fake interpreter at Mandela's funeral was broadcast on international TV and youtube. The incident with the drunken agents overseas was observed by local people.
 
Technically, they can... ONLY if it is not happening in public, but since it happens outside on front lawn in plain view from public, the chances are somebody already saw em, no way to stop that. S

So, since it is in public... SOL

no need to repeat what Reba said...
 
Secret Service Director Julia Pierson resigns
 
I'm afraid they may be taking notes. :(

I heard one security expert on TV say that he's surprised that there hasn't yet been an assassination. He says we've just been "lucky" so far. That's very troublesome.

I agree we have been lucky so far and that is not how we should be protecting any president, on 'luck'. I am glad Pierson resign , I never did think much of her from day one.
 
Secret Service Director Julia Pierson resigns

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Pierson was a dumbass. She had no actual in the field experience for 20 years prior to her being assigned. She had no clue of what it actually is like to protect people. She actually went so far as to say that they should make the Secret Service friendlier and MORE LIKE DISNEY. She worked for Disney as a teenager. When the Israeli Prime Minister came, she refused to give him the necessary protection, which was blocking the street of where he was staying. He's a high risk target and they normally block off the street. She did not want the SS to be broadcast as the reason for increasing traffic problems in DC during his stay.

She made so many stupid decisions, the ones I listed and other. I'm surprised she lasted as long as she did.
 
Pierson was a dumbass. She had no actual in the field experience for 20 years prior to her being assigned. She had no clue of what it actually is like to protect people. She actually went so far as to say that they should make the Secret Service friendlier and MORE LIKE DISNEY. She worked for Disney as a teenager. When the Israeli Prime Minister came, she refused to give him the necessary protection, which was blocking the street of where he was staying. He's a high risk target and they normally block off the street. She did not want the SS to be broadcast as the reason for increasing traffic problems in DC during his stay.

She made so many stupid decisions, the ones I listed and other. I'm surprised she lasted as long as she did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Pierson
Following graduation, Pierson served three years in the Orlando Police Department (OPD), patrolling the northeastern section of Orlando. She was one of the first female OPD officers assigned to a beat.[8] She joined the United States Secret Service in 1984 as a special agent. She served in the Miami Field Office from 1984 to 1985, and the Orlando Field Office from 1985 to 1988. From 1989 to 2000, she served on the presidential protective details (PPDs) of Presidents George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush. Between 2000 and 2001, Pierson held the position of special agent in charge of the Office of Protective Operations, and then as deputy assistant director of the Office of Administration from 2001 to 2005. From 2005 to 2006 she served as deputy assistant director of the Office of Protective Operations. From 2008 to her appointment as director, Pierson served as the chief of staff to the director, and as the assistant director of the Office of Human Resources and Training for the Secret Service.[9][5]

well I guess she does know a thing or two about what it's like to protect people...
 
Just about every statement I've read from people in the Secret Service have stated that she doesn't have a good handle on what is actually needed to protect. The source I read must have been wrong in how long she was out of the field. Your info is 14 years. If someone in her position is trying to make the Secret Service friendlier like Disney, while not instilling confidence and not fixing problems the excessive drinking and use of prostitutes and dropped standards for protecting the president, that's a screwed up attitude to take.
 
Just about every statement I've read from people in the Secret Service have stated that she doesn't have a good handle on what is actually needed to protect.
of course. you should know by now that anybody who enters government jobs (obviously high-ranking positions) always leave with tarnished reputations.

The source I read must have been wrong in how long she was out of the field. Your info is 14 years.
Irrelevant. You don't just become part of Presidential Protective Details by submitting your resume and hope for the best. You get asked to serve because she obviously did great jobs to get noticed. and when you're retired from PPD, you don't just forget everything because it's been 14 years. Rusty yes but you don't forget it.

If someone in her position is trying to make the Secret Service friendlier like Disney, while not instilling confidence and not fixing problems the excessive drinking and use of prostitutes and dropped standards for protecting the president, that's a screwed up attitude to take.
the problem has been going for a very long time - way before Pierson took charge. these problems are precisely what she was appointed to deal with.
 
Just about every statement I've read from people in the Secret Service have stated that she doesn't have a good handle on what is actually needed to protect. The source I read must have been wrong in how long she was out of the field. Your info is 14 years. If someone in her position is trying to make the Secret Service friendlier like Disney, while not instilling confidence and not fixing problems the excessive drinking and use of prostitutes and dropped standards for protecting the president, that's a screwed up attitude to take.

Let's see you deal with 1,400++ staff, training, countless unthinkable situations, millions of tourists annually, various countries and their people, high profile issues, and on without a hitch then.
 
Update report:

WASHINGTON — An intruder was able to climb a fence and enter the White House in September because of a succession of “performance, organizational, technical” and other failures by the Secret Service, according to a damning review of the incident by the Department of Homeland Security.

The review found that the Secret Service’s alarm systems and radios failed to function properly, and that many of the responding officers did not see the intruder as he climbed over the fence, delaying their response.

Omar Gonzalez, the man charged in the incident, could have been stopped by a Secret Service officer who was stationed on the North Lawn with an attack dog, the review said. But the officer did not realize that an intruder had made it over the fence because he was sitting in his van talking on his personal cellphone.

The officer did not have his radio earpiece in, and had left the second radio he was supposed to have in his locker. It was only after he saw another officer running toward Mr. Gonzalez that he was alerted to the security breach. At that point, the officer gave the dog the command to attack, but the dog had not had a chance to “lock onto” the intruder “and may not have seen” him at all, according to the review. Mr. Gonzalez continued into the White House.

The review has not been made public, but members of Congress were briefed on it Thursday. An executive summary was obtained by The New York Times.The review of the Sept. 19 breach is part of a much broader investigation of the Secret Service being conducted by the deputy secretary of Homeland Security, Alejandro Mayorkas. That investigation is focused on other incidents in which the White House fence was scaled and how security at the White House could be improved. Julia Pierson, the director of the Secret Service, resigned after the September incident as well as other security lapses by the agency.

In addition to faulting the Secret Service for its handling of the security breach, the review also found that the agency mishandled its investigation of Mr. Gonzalez in the months before he succeeded in entering the White House. He first came to the attention of the authorities in July when he was arrested on gun charges in Virginia. A month later, he was stopped outside the White House carrying a hatchet but was not arrested.

The report also said that because of staffing shortages, the uniformed Secret Service officers who were responsible for protecting the White House did not receive adequate training. But the bulk of the report focuses on what happened on the evening of Sept. 19, from the time officers recognized Mr. Gonzalez outside the White House.

Mr. Gonzalez did not appear to show any odd behavior, so the officers did not talk to him or alert their supervisors. An hour later, at 7:19 p.m., officers on Pennsylvania Avenue spotted him climbing over the fence at a point where one of the ornamental spikes was missing. The officers ran toward him and told him to stop, but he continued over the fence onto the North Lawn.

One officer called over his radio that someone had gone over the fence, and an alarm was sounded. Two officers approached Mr. Gonzalez with their firearms pointed at him and told him to stop. He continued running, and the officers decided not to use lethal force because they did not believe he was armed.

One of the officers followed Mr. Gonzalez into the bushes in front of the North Portico but lost sight of him.

The summary said that the officers “were surprised that Gonzalez was able to get through the bushes” because “prior to that evening, the officers believed the bushes” were too thick to pass through.

It was at that time that the officer with the dog joined the pursuit.

An officer stationed nearby was unable to see what was occurring because his view was obstructed by trees and bushes. That officer “was unable to hear any comprehensible radio communications about alarm breaks or Gonzalez” until he had gotten close to the North Portico entrance.

“By the time the officer exited his vehicle and began yelling commands at Gonzalez, Gonzalez had nearly arrived at the bushes,” according to the summary. “The officer was unable to reach Gonzalez before he entered the bushes and, as a result, went around the bushes toward the North Portico only to find that Gonzalez had already entered the White House.”

An officer stationed at the North Portico door could not hear on the radio what was occurring and had an obstructed view. Instead of remaining at the door, the officer took out his weapon and took cover behind a pillar. The officer put his finger on the trigger of his gun, pointed it at Mr. Gonzalez as he came up the stairs, and told him to stop. But, Mr. Gonzalez continued running and the officer did not shoot because he did not believe Mr. Gonzalez was armed. It was later discovered that Mr. Gonzalez had a knife.

The wooden doors at the North Portico were closed and the officer assumed they were locked. “Believing that Gonzalez was trapped, and concerned that the canine might erroneously lock onto him, the officer chose to remain in place and out of the way” of the other officers who were chasing after him.

But the doors were not locked, and Mr. Gonzalez entered the White House. The emergency communication system by the entrance had been muted. As the officer stationed there tried to lock the doors, Mr. Gonzalez “barged through them and knocked her backward.” She told him to stop but he continued on to the East Room.

“After attempting twice to physically take Gonzalez down but failing to do so because of the size disparity between the two, the officer then attempted to draw her baton but accidentally grabbed her flashlight instead,” the report said. “The officer threw down her flashlight, drew her firearm, and continued to give Gonzalez commands that he ignored.”

Mr. Gonzalez entered the East Room, but then exited, heading down the hallway. Two officers stationed in the White House, assisted by two plainclothes agents who had just finished their shifts, tackled him.

Outside the White House several officers, who said they did not know the layout of the building, were lining up in a tactical formation. “By the time they entered,” the report said, “Gonzalez had already been subdued,” it said.

A copy of the findings was given to the acting Secret Service director, Joseph Clancy, at the end of last month so he “could immediately begin to take any additional security measures that the findings warranted in order to better ensure the White House complex is secure,” according to a statement from the Department of Homeland Security. But no Secret Service agents or officers have been disciplined in connection with the incident.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/14/u...-eased-way-for-white-house-intruder.html?_r=0
 
if he had thought to carry a leaf blower and a rake I am sure no one would have paid any attention to him.
 
all it need is the music.

I wonder how much these people are paid. I would make a good guard. my report would read, "I signed 3 times for him to stop before I shot"
 
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