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she gets either an answer from "The Coward of Crawford", get herself and her supporters at Camp Casey arrested or until the end of August.


She is camping 5 miles from Dumbya's Pig Farm out in Texas. The protest is molded on the idea of non-violence used by both Mathama Gandhi and Martin Luther King.

Visit the blog of updates from Camp Casey by t r u t h o u t 's William Pitt as he keeps track of Cindy Sheehan's progress at Camp Casey.

http://www.truthout.org/cindy.shtml

FYI Cindy Sheehan is the mother whose son got killed in the Iraq Mess last April 2K4.
 
Cindy Sheehan Family Press Release
8/11/2005
Eric Hogue


Letter sent from the Family Members of Cindy Sheehan to the media...

Hello...

Our family has been so distressed by the recent activities of Cindy, we are breaking our silence and we have collectively written a statement for release. Feel free to distribute as you wish.

In response to questions regarding the Cindy Sheehan/Crawford, Texas issue:

The Sheehan Family lost our beloved Casey Sheehan in the Iraq War and we have been silently, respectfully grieving. We do not agree with the political motivations and publicity agenda of Cindy Sheehan.

She now appears to be promoting her own personal agenda and notoriety at the expense of her son's good name and reputation. The rest of the Sheehan Family supports our troops, our country, and our President, silently, with prayer and respect.

Sincerely,

Casey Sheehan's Grandparents, Aunts, Uncles and Numerous Cousins.
http://www.crosswalk.com/news/weblogs/erichogue/1345316.html?view=print

After Casey's death, Cindy Sheehan met with President Bush at the White House in June 2004.
 
Reba said:
After Casey's death, Cindy Sheehan met with President Bush at the White House in June 2004.
After which she had nothing but glowing praise for the President and his obvious sympathy for her and her family.
 
ksbsnowowl said:
After which she had nothing but glowing praise for the President and his obvious sympathy for her and her family.
Yep.
 
I find it shocking how much people are repeating a blatant and obvious smear against a mother who has had to bear the horrid burden of the ultimate sacrifice of her child for the nation.
Please read this:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200508100009
Cindy did not praise Bush.

The nation owes her, and in return she gets smeared and personally attacked? That is beyond low.

actually... lower is...

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Mowing down
and destroying memorial crosses for fallen soldiers.

Its not about Cindy, no matter now much some want to attack and lay every problem and sin and fault on her. Its about her son.
About all the daughters and sons that have died.

Cindy is just one member of a group called Gold Star Families for Peace They have a list of members, all of them family and relatives of fallen soldiers.
They have also been joined by Veteran's for Peace (VFP), Military Families Speak Out (MFSO), Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW). Families, Soldiers and veterans.
Its about our heroes, demanding answers.

Smearing her? mowing down crosses? Ignoring soldiers' families in order to go to a political fundraiser?
Yellow ribbons do not trump gold stars, nor soldiers bars. They do not trump body bags. They do not trump betrayal.
This is not about politics, or positions, it is about mothers and families asking for answers.
 
bree said:
I find it shocking how much people are repeating a blatant and obvious smear against a mother who has had to bear the horrid burden of the ultimate sacrifice of her child for the nation.
Please read this:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200508100009
Cindy did not praise Bush.

The nation owes her, and in return she gets smeared and personally attacked? That is beyond low.

actually... lower is...

texasladypicture3contrastbrigh.jpg



Mowing down
and destroying memorial crosses for fallen soldiers.

Its not about Cindy, no matter now much some want to attack and lay every problem and sin and fault on her. Its about her son.
About all the daughters and sons that have died.

Cindy is just one member of a group called Gold Star Families for Peace They have a list of members, all of them family and relatives of fallen soldiers.
They have also been joined by Veteran's for Peace (VFP), Military Families Speak Out (MFSO), Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW). Families, Soldiers and veterans.
Its about our heroes, demanding answers.

Smearing her? mowing down crosses? Ignoring soldiers' families in order to go to a political fundraiser?
Yellow ribbons do not trump gold stars, nor soldiers bars. They do not trump body bags. They do not trump betrayal.
This is not about politics, or positions, it is about mothers and families asking for answers.


WELL SAID, Bree! I have been keeping track of Cindy and Camp Casey and the latest news on Arlington West's vandalism plus Dumbya's "I'll move on with my life" attitude totally INCENSES me with the attitude of the counter-protest movement.

Gandhi and MLK would be so proud of what Cindy Sheehan is doing to bring the troops home in a non-violent manner. So thus I stand with Cindy Sheehan.
 
They are hosting candlelight vigils tomorrow night in support of Cindy....*high five* Bree, lady you RAWK!
 
If people are interested, there is a list of vigils sorted by location. Apparently, there are over 1300 vigils planned for this wednesday the 17th.
The website meetwithcindy.org also has a list of different activities people can participate in, including interfaith prayer meetings on Friday the 19th, and a gathering in washington on September 24-26th.

If you wish to know more about the events behind the protests, there is a wikipedia entry on Cindy Sheehan and Cindy has been actively documenting her protest on the website Dailykos. View her dairies at cindysheehan.dailykos.com.
The truth is always a light that sends lies scurrying away.
 
The ding dong otherwise known as Cindy

Spare me! This Cindy lady is so pathetic. Her own family is ashamed of her. She actually said " the USA is not worth dying for ". Oh really? Then MOVE. Soliders have died so ding dongs like Cindy can do the very thing she is doing: standing on the side of a road ranting against the President. Oh, don't get me wrong. I am NOT a proponet of the Iraq war either. But this Cindy nut is just soaking up attention and all the fringe whack jobs are joining her. She is using her son's death as a means to further her own deluded way of thinking. Her son, as a solider, no doubt would shudder at the notion that his mother says: "America is not worth dying for". I want our solider's home too. But, no way will I ever support the Ding Dong Cindy's of the world!
 
She does not speak for rest of deceased soldiers' moms. Most of soldiers' moms are proud of their sons and daughters. I don't buy Cindy Sheehan's complaints, she is with Code Pinks and with anti-war movement.

Bush has spoken that he can't afford to withdraw troops, if he decided to withdraw the troops, we will lose the war period. Terrorists and Iraq's insurgents will celebrate in streets and say "Death to America!" What more anti-war movements want!??!

I do sympathize Cindy for her son's loss, but Bush bashings and calling President bad names have gone too far.

More and more :bsflag: from anti-war liberals and America doesn't really need them!

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IrishmanDan said:
Spare me! This Cindy lady is so pathetic. Her own family is ashamed of her. She actually said " the USA is not worth dying for ". Oh really? Then MOVE. Soliders have died so ding dongs like Cindy can do the very thing she is doing: standing on the side of a road ranting against the President. Oh, don't get me wrong. I am NOT a proponet of the Iraq war either. But this Cindy nut is just soaking up attention and all the fringe whack jobs are joining her. She is using her son's death as a means to further her own deluded way of thinking. Her son, as a solider, no doubt would shudder at the notion that his mother says: "America is not worth dying for". I want our solider's home too. But, no way will I ever support the Ding Dong Cindy's of the world!

Her son died and you call her a ding dong and a fringe wack job?

Do you have a son or daughter dead in Iraq? No?
So much for supporting the troops. She has much more right to complain than you have to insult her. A gold star mother has made the ultimate sacrifice. Trying to diminish this sacrifice only diminishes you.

Calling people names when they speak up is called an ad hominem attack. it only shows the weakness of your own position. Showing pictures of 'liberalism is a mental disorder' only shows how much you are NOT talking about the soldiers, but instead dismissing every thing and everybody that is not 'pro-bush'. This is not about Bush. This is not about liberalism. Its about the soldiers.

Her family? As I said before, truth wins out. I previously provided a link to wikipedia. Now let me go back and actually provide you with the information about her families support which apparently was not read.

Sheehan clarified that "my immediate family, Casey's dad and my three children and my sister, we're all on the same page. And I really think that some of my husband's siblings are with us too." [18] Dede Miller, Sheehan's sister and Casey's aunt, is supportive of Sheehan's actions and joined her at Crawford early in the protest
The only family relatives not supporting this are those that DIDN'T know Casey Sheehan.

But as I have said before its beside the point. Its not about her no matter how much you want to slander a grieving mother.
Its about the fallen soldiers.

Sixteen members of congress have drafted a petion requesting Bush to meet with Sheehan. Im sure Congress is a fringe and must be with terrorists.

A mother's son has died. She asks WHY? That is her right. But she is only one mother.. Fathers, brothers, sisters have also joined her. This is not saying that what their soldiers have done is wrong, not to tell the nation to leave, but to ask WHY.

That is what democracy is about. Its about asking questions so the entire nation can find answers together. It is NOT 'my way or the highway'. It was Founding Father Thomas Jefferson who said "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." If you have no room in your heart to listen to those who grieve, no room in mind to listen to those who disagree, then you have no room for patriotism.
 
I don't think it is nice to call Mrs. Sheehan bad names. I do think that the tragedy of her son's death has been a severe shock to her, and she is coping with it in her own way. I don't agree with her but I try to be sympathetiic to her pain. I believe left-wing and anti-war groups are taking advantage of her for their own agendas.

What would her meeting with the President accomplish? Would she really feel better if she has a private meeting with Bush, and she can rant at him, call him a liar, and blame him for killing her son? How would that help her, her dead son, other soldiers, or the country?

Of does she want a big public meeting, so she can make a scene and embarress the President? Who will that help?

Just wondering.
 
Teddy Roosevelt, a TRUE Republican, has hit it right on the nail. Cindy Sheehan and others have the right to criticize the President during a war:

"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."

Theodore Roosevelt, Kansas City Star, 149

May 7, 1918

And that article was written during World War I.
 
It has made me saddened to hear of people's losses in Iraq. And it's more disturbing to me that some people would rather put these grieving ones down than hold out a hand.. regardless of the differences in belief.
 
Reba said:
I don't think it is nice to call Mrs. Sheehan bad names. I do think that the tragedy of her son's death has been a severe shock to her, and she is coping with it in her own way. I don't agree with her but I try to be sympathetiic to her pain. I believe left-wing and anti-war groups are taking advantage of her for their own agendas.

What would her meeting with the President accomplish? Would she really feel better if she has a private meeting with Bush, and she can rant at him, call him a liar, and blame him for killing her son? How would that help her, her dead son, other soldiers, or the country?

Of does she want a big public meeting, so she can make a scene and embarress the President? Who will that help?

Just wondering.

Yes I agree with you. What would meeting accomplish with Bush? It is their goal to embarrass Bush. I remember reading somewhere that if Cindy's cameraman and some Code Pink representatives does not accompany with Cindy, then Cindy will refuse meet with Bush. It shows that she just wanted to embarrass Bush in front of cameras. It is plainly stupid. Liberals are trying find way to destroy President's reputation and they are really lowering their standards.

Joining military is knowing the risks to face the war. Every military men and women knew it, and it is not easy decision when joining military.

If my son or daughter goes into Iraq war, I would be proud of them. Yes, it is very scarey to know if they get killed or injuried. But again, they faced decision going into military and they should know the risks.

My grandfather went to WWII and when my brother was considering into Army and my grandfather talked to him about his experiences and consulted him that it is his decision, no one is forcing him to go to Army. So my brother decided not to join the army.

Everyone are not forced to go to military service, and they should know the risks period.
 
bree said:
The only family relatives not supporting this are those that DIDN'T know Casey Sheehan.
His father doesn't know Casey?! What a joke. :zzz: Casey's father stands by Bush. Still his father is coping with his loss, just like mom Cindy. I sympathize them both.

NOTE: Wikipedia is easily editable by anyone who goes in there. It is not reliable and not for facts to prove.
 
bree said:
Her son died and you call her a ding dong and a fringe wack job?

Do you have a son or daughter dead in Iraq? No?
So much for supporting the troops. She has much more right to complain than you have to insult her. A gold star mother has made the ultimate sacrifice. Trying to diminish this sacrifice only diminishes you.

Calling people names when they speak up is called an ad hominem attack. it only shows the weakness of your own position. Showing pictures of 'liberalism is a mental disorder' only shows how much you are NOT talking about the soldiers, but instead dismissing every thing and everybody that is not 'pro-bush'. This is not about Bush. This is not about liberalism. Its about the soldiers.

Her family? As I said before, truth wins out. I previously provided a link to wikipedia. Now let me go back and actually provide you with the information about her families support which apparently was not read.

The only family relatives not supporting this are those that DIDN'T know Casey Sheehan.

But as I have said before its beside the point. Its not about her no matter how much you want to slander a grieving mother.
Its about the fallen soldiers.

Sixteen members of congress have drafted a petion requesting Bush to meet with Sheehan. Im sure Congress is a fringe and must be with terrorists.

A mother's son has died. She asks WHY? That is her right. But she is only one mother.. Fathers, brothers, sisters have also joined her. This is not saying that what their soldiers have done is wrong, not to tell the nation to leave, but to ask WHY.

That is what democracy is about. Its about asking questions so the entire nation can find answers together. It is NOT 'my way or the highway'. It was Founding Father Thomas Jefferson who said "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." If you have no room in your heart to listen to those who grieve, no room in mind to listen to those who disagree, then you have no room for patriotism.[/QUO




Cindy did not make a sacrafice. Her son did.

I never equated Cindy's actions as a form of liberalism. Interesting how I use the words ding dong, and you infer I am suggesting liberals. I expressed disgust as her using her son's death as a TOOL for her own views.

Why do our soliders die? Becuase out goverment sent them to Iraq.

If you read my post clearly you would also note that I oppse the war in Iraq but I strongly oppose Cindy using her son as a tool to express her own personal beliefs. Aren't her views strong enough to stand on their own merits rather than on the very sad death of her son?

Further, where was Cindy's "Why?" crusade when her son was alive? Why now?

I think Cindy has every right to do what she is doing, just as I and many other American Patriots have the right to condem her actions. As you so clearly point out: "That is what democracy is about. Its about asking questions so the entire nation can find answers together. It is NOT 'my way or the highway'. It was Founding Father Thomas Jefferson who said "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." If you have no room in your heart to listen to those who grieve, no room in mind to listen to those who disagree, then you have no room for patriotism"

Does this not apply to my oppsing viewpoints? I am saying that in my view, Cindy's use of her son's death as a tool is pathetic. That is how I feel. I find the video clips of her standing there waving a cross and saying "America is not worth dying for" to be offensive and odd. That is what I feel and I am sure many others feel that way.

In MY view this whole thing is not about her son's death. It is about Cindy's need for attention and the liberal minded individuals seizing an opportunity by joining her and making this a huge media event. The fact is her son died and died as a solider of the United States of America.
 
Reduas said:
His father doesn't know Casey?! What a joke. :zzz: Casey's father stands by Bush. Still his father is coping with his loss, just like mom Cindy. I sympathize them both.

NOTE: Wikipedia is easily editable by anyone who goes in there. It is not reliable and not for facts to prove.

GO BACK AND READ.. Thats the third time i have asked people to check the link, and apparently people have not done so before complaining. Wikipedia clearly stated that they were quoting a salon.com article, while providing a link to two other articles with similar information. While Wikipedia can be easily editable, that specific article has a VERY extensive list of links, which are from reputable sources. The three links in question are here here and here

From every thing i read, Casey's father has not made any public statements. In the mean time Cindy has stated that he is 'on the same page'. So if you are going to make such statements, please provide back up, since I provided information to the contrary before you posted.
Other wise, you are promoting a lie.

as for another statement by irishmandan, I wish to clarify..

irishmandan said:
I never equated Cindy's actions as a form of liberalism. Interesting how I use the words ding dong, and you infer I am suggesting liberals. I expressed disgust as her using her son's death as a TOOL for her own views.

apparently, you had issue with my previous statement..

"Calling people names when they speak up is called an ad hominem attack. it only shows the weakness of your own position. Showing pictures of 'liberalism is a mental disorder' only shows how much you are NOT talking about the soldiers, but instead dismissing every thing and everybody that is not 'pro-bush'. This is not about Bush. This is not about liberalism. Its about the soldiers. "

I stated 'showing pictures', which referred to a posting by redeus. I lumped both of your ad hominem attacks together, in an effort to save time. It appears it made my statement unclear.
In case you did not see, redeus provided two pictures equating liberals with the terrorists and the mentally ill. Off point, and insulting. Your post used words, but used 'pathetic' 'ding dong', (3 times) "shames her family", associates with 'lunatic whack jobs' 'deluded' and 'nut'.
I appreciate discussion, but such words were, and remain insulting. It adds nothing to discussion, while doing everything to slander her.

I can and do respect those who disagree with the protest. But using false statements and ad hominem attacks does not further arguments. Unfortunately, this has been almost a trademark of a specific type of political people in recent times. While it works, it doesn't exactly make anybody look good.
 
What's the real reason the U.S. troops fighting in Iraq? Because of WTC? I understand that over 3,000 people have died in the WTC but what's more.. is that our U.S. soldiers are getting killed everyday! Mainly, I think Bush just wanted to take over Iraq and keep the oil.. since he's from Texas so I'm sure he know so much about oil and using our soldiers to get oil for him. That's just my 2 cents. I support Cindy.. There are already vigils and protesters in my hometown supporting Cindy now. The husband asked for a divorce is selfish. I'm thinking that was Cindy's only child and that's why she's taking it pretty hard. but I want to say that I support the troops for fighting for our country and I'm rooting for Cindy!
 
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