Sins In The Church

Status
Not open for further replies.
H

hottiedeafboi

New Member
Joined
Oct 3, 2005
Messages
592
Reaction score
0
As I ve been very active church member for a long time, but now I haven't. Sadly to say I have sinned against the church which hurt me as I did to others. What I did doesn't justify what the church members has done against me and also each others. Most of the gossipping about me are not true than it is. There's truth and lies mixed in. Sadly to say, they can judging me what I have done, but even tho before what I made a mistakes, is that the sins of the church is gossipping. They think its natual way to do it, but I have hard time believing in that. What I read the Word shown me that gossipping is very wicked and inexcusable. Several times in the bible talked about it especially, book of Proverbs, James and also seeing Galatians chapter 5 vs 19thru 21 described it, two faces, dishoenset, backstabbing, act nice but talk evil about the person u falsely greeting, gosspping and etc. Where's the fruit. I remember past several years and still doing, members praising the Lord when a person confess his or her sins and seeking Gods forgiveness, but the members the one that hurt that person but never asking forgivness and thinking they haven't sin, and I say that's a tragic. Christians, all of us need a repentance. As Jesus said, if u lead ur brother into sin, its better get a millstone and wrap around ur neck and throw urself into the sea, meaning also if u gossip behind his or her back and nothing work out and lead him or her sin, the gossipper will pay conswequences. Understand this, God is a loving Father thu Jesus Christ, He paid our sin debt in full. We need each other, even tho I live in gay lifestyle, not mean is happy what I'm doing, but problem lots of christians adding up sins and thinking gay is worse, what change the society is Gods love thru us. But condemning people of their sins which the sin u didn't commit is wrong. U have sin against the Lord likewise if u hurt someone by gossipping and leaking to tell someone else which a person wants a confidence and prayer support. Sadly, the hearing pastor for the deaf has been destroying the church, by giving out juicy details of my sins even before I fall intosins which he constantly said 'I'm to busy or I have other plans' which devastate me. When I keep asking for help. Pastors, are u truly living for the Lord in obedience or u being a drama preacher? The shephard who ignore the cries of the sheep will suffer consequences. Don't be a wolf in sheep clothing. Yes, I cry out to God for my sins and asking for forgiveness of immoral lifestyle and asking God for guidance and yes, praying for power of forgiveness for each other and to God. If u said something about other person life that hurt, u need to ask him or her for forgiveness. Its time to stop being opinion and listen to the hurts. The guy who I live with doesn't mistreating me at all. I have been sharing about Gods love and seeing Gods view and the worlds view are big difference. He's been hurting by the church by condemning him. I told him even churches sinned against the Lord. Some of my members hasn't been really nice to him. I ask God for wisdom to lead him to know You(Lord) and as he may see of his own to give his life to the Lord and lately what I shared with him there is many things he have never thought of. Not only that non church goers who are christians and non christians never thought of. One was saying about particular church she called that church a murderer. Which is many churches have been a murderer, hatred, gossipping, refuse forgive and etc is a murderer. Have u thought of that? Bring ur brothers and sisters of the Lord who is struggling, hurting and poor health back to ur family, bec church is for sick spiritually and also who never receive christ, church is not for perect healthy people. Many missing the point on particular verses even tho plain balck and white, but missing the point, look at king david and yes I cried out forgiveness remember rest of his life he fall all kinds of sins, but constantly crying out to God. All of us can't see a person inside. There are sincere believers who sin against the Lord and still crying out to God. I keep seeing gossipping been winning the battle and the forest fires burning out of control while fire chief are too busy and has no time putting out the fires. Greatest of all we need is genuine love, and put the end of drama and be real. As is wriiten several times in the Bible, if u see ur brother sin, bring him back. Also confess to one another, not one person confessing all of the believers, the bod of christ. Gossip break the unity. Don't cutdown on flesh and blood but against satanic forces. The battle of the Lord is victors after victors, bring the wounded soldiers in. My prayes for all of us
 
That is why, I do not go to Deaf churches anymore.

I rather pray between God and me. Read the bible...
 
I still attend church. My church has very small numbers of deaf people.

Need to remind you, we are now livin' in apostasy days. :)
 
Sadly, gossip is a very serious evil sin, and it can infect an entire church membership. :(
 
Even preachers' wives gossip! :eek:
 
I already witness this, sorry u had to find this hard way. Remember they are not what u seek, u seek Lord only. Ingore them.
 
Yes, I understand. Same with me, I had a hard time there too cuz my ex-fiance and I went to same church and he engaged to other lady who also attended the same church where I attended to. It is very hard for me to see them in same room that my ex-fiance hurt me so bad and never solved 100 percent our problems. When they are not around, I feel fine and good but if they are there, I dont feel very comfortable due to bad memory. I was thinkiing for long time to leave church and find other church to make new life and new people to make me eager to serve the Lord.

Any suggestions/advices what I suppose to do?
 
Gossip is not a sin. Lies is a sin

But why be gay? There are many many many women who are so adorable and funny... you can go out with them and have fun fun fun...
And all.

What is it about men and their funny looking stickdicks they have that turn you on? I don't care about their stupid stickdicks and sex, that doesn't make me a heterosexual.

What makes us a heterosexual?? Is it because we prefer sex with opposite sex or because choose to make babies in a natural way?

If we get a pet companionship, does it matter if the pet is female or male?
:gives:

Stop making a big fuss about your sexual orientation, and just live a normal life... for crying out loud, and stupid Hollywood, make good movies and stop shoveling homos in our throat and get real... it is always about you you you.

There are more than life than sex. That is all men think about is sex sex sex and who they are attracting too and big boobs and porn, kiss my ass.

Let's have some fun and help people around the world who need us the most.
 
Its a good thing we all share what we ve been going thru, everyone who replied this issues and great for more expressing and share what we all been going thru as it is wriiten edify one another and share our pains together, I love to go to church and find a place where is true worshipper goes which is hard to find like a treasures and ask God for us to go. Lets praise God together and ask for guidance
 
hottiedeafboi said:
Its a good thing we all share what we ve been going thru, everyone who replied this issues and great for more expressing and share what we all been going thru as it is wriiten edify one another and share our pains together, I love to go to church and find a place where is true worshipper goes which is hard to find like a treasures and ask God for us to go. Lets praise God together and ask for guidance
Click to expand...

Yep.
 
Empress,

Gossip is sin .. the Bible states that.

You're right that lie is sin. But gossip is also sin.
 
Hi HDB!!! :hug:

Good vent. I know you personally very well and have seen you sign sing the songs. You are one of best sign singer I've seen. I'm sorry that your friends (some that have known you and me since we were little) were very judgemental, as well as the pastor. It's truly sad when I know you're absolutely beautiful inside and outside.
 
Yes, I suggest to go to another church instead of where ur ex are and causing ur pain. I remember the time hearing pastor of the deaf was angry at my brother for bringing the ex husband to church where his ex wife go both been going same church but ex in laws of his was angry at him for going to church and claiming my brother is a blame for bringing him back. Really, blaming my brother is wrong, no one authorize to uninvite someone to church who longing to come to worship.... Now, make it clear, its not the point about me for being gay and search for sex sex sex. Not the point, the point genuine love is for each other, not what one do it all for the one and the other with no return. Suppose to have a total commitment for each other not one sided. I'm not looking for just sex, but relationship. Relationship has to be include, sacrifice, communication and one on one not outside interference of the couple lest if for advice, not demand or command. I was married due ex in laws severely dominate our marriage. My ex totally depend on mom than me, and hold on the riches than me. But there are some degree I made a mistake, but nothing to solve which ex will not sacrifice. She's very materialistic woman. Do love her a lot yes, but her greed and selfishness is way out of hand is beyond measure. My ex still under her parents of her parents decision not btwn her and me, and that's what lead our marriage fall apart. But the man I have, when disagreement happens, we dicuss the matters and work it out, I tell you what, that is my very first time its been like that. Again, sex is beautiful, but focus just sex issue is not proper. Mine is focus on relationship which is all kinds in one. Smile
 
Yes, I suggest to go to another church instead of where ur ex are and causing ur pain. I remember the time hearing pastor of the deaf was angry at my brother for bringing the ex husband to church where his ex wife go both been going same church but ex in laws of his was angry at him for going to church and claiming my brother is a blame for bringing him back. Really, blaming my brother is wrong, no one authorize to uninvite someone to church who longing to come to worship.... Now, make it clear, its not the point about me for being gay and search for sex sex sex. Not the point, the point genuine love is for each other, not what one do it all for the one and the other with no return. Suppose to have a total commitment for each other not one sided. I'm not looking for just sex, but relationship. Relationship has to be include, sacrifice, communication and one on one not outside interference of the couple lest if for advice, not demand or command. I was married due ex in laws severely dominate our marriage. My ex totally depend on mom than me, and hold on the riches than me. But there are some degree I made a mistake, but nothing to solve which ex will not sacrifice. She's very materialistic woman. Do love her a lot yes, but her greed and selfishness is way out of hand is beyond measure. My ex still under her parents of her parents decision not btwn her and me, and that's what lead our marriage fall apart. But the man I have, when disagreement happens, we dicuss the matters and work it out, I tell you what, that is my very first time its been like that. Again, sex is beautiful, but focus just sex issue is not proper. Mine is focus on relationship which is all kinds in one. Smile
 
Hi peach lady, thanks. U always been my sister who is so dear to me and seeing me going thru a lot of challenges. Smile, luv u a lot still in christ
 
hottiedeafboi said:
Yes, I suggest to go to another church instead of where ur ex are and causing ur pain.
Click to expand...

Okay, I will wait for other more suggestions/advice from AD members.

Thanks for post message. :ty:
 
IcedTeaRulz said:
Okay, I will wait for other more suggestions/advice from AD members.

Thanks for post message. :ty:
Click to expand...

I can't think of othr better suggestion that what hdb suggested.
 
IcedTeaRulz said:
Yes, I understand. Same with me, I had a hard time there too cuz my ex-fiance and I went to same church and he engaged to other lady who also attended the same church where I attended to. It is very hard for me to see them in same room that my ex-fiance hurt me so bad and never solved 100 percent our problems. When they are not around, I feel fine and good but if they are there, I dont feel very comfortable due to bad memory. I was thinkiing for long time to leave church and find other church to make new life and new people to make me eager to serve the Lord.

Any suggestions/advices what I suppose to do?
Click to expand...


If it bothers you that bad, then find another church. However, before doing that, try one more month and, for this time, instead of wearing what you normally wear (I'm assuming blue jeans, et al), dress up as if you're going to a job interview. Hold your head high as if to say, "I know who I am, where I'm going and where I'm from." Wear a big smile most of the time and REFUSE to let anyone, especially your exfiance', get you down for any reason.
 
Hottie,

I have an acquaintance in Texas that is gay, is a Christian and attends a gay church. He is also a pk (preacher's kid). No, he can't go to his parents church because of the hassle people give him. I have other friends that are gay that have stopped attending church because of the anti-gay feelings. And, then there's people like myself that stand up to and against people like Fred Phelps...if you want to see the article, pm me and I'll give you the link, although you may have to pay some money to the newspaper to see it.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top