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http://www.rense.com/general60/tenet.htm

"Former CIA DIRECTOR George J. Tenet called for new security measures to guard against attacks on the United States that use the Internet, which he called 'a potential Achilles' heel.'"

Unbelievable. In other words, your tax dollars built them the internet, so it is THEIRS, not yours, and you should be kicked off.
Somebody kick Tenet in the ass.
"...but ultimately the Wild West must give way to governance and control..." BASTARD.
He is a sick idiot promoting the "New World Order" and Bush Junta. The real purpose of his statements is to just give a sense that the Internet is dangerous, because it allows people to freely communicate and share information, and that is a danger to the Bush Junta. They bought up the US Media and consolidated ownership into a few hands, now they have to get rid of the Internet so you can be totally ignorant of their plans.
Tenet has lost his freaking mind---the Internet belongs to the People, not the Government.
Grrrrr.
 
I posted this topic at: http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.php?t=12512

Now they are looking for excuse to put a control on the internet:



HOUSTON - Cyberterrorism could be the most devastating weapon of mass destruction yet and could cripple the U.S. economy, former CIA (news - web sites) Director Robert Gates said at a terrorism conference Saturday.

Gates, who became Texas A&M University's president in 2002 about a decade after he left the CIA, cited as an example the "love bug" virus that overwhelmed computer systems around the world in 2000.

"When a teenage hacker in the Philippines overnight can wreak $10 billion in damage to the U.S. economy by implanting a virus, imagine what a sophisticated, well-funded effort to attack the computer base of our economy could accomplish," said Gates, addressing the two-day conference at Rice University.

Even before 2000, the United States seemed an easy cyberterrorism target, Gates said.

He said the CIA and National Security Agency conducted an exercise six years ago, assigning 50 computer specialists to see how hard it would be to shut down the nation's electric grid. It took only two days for the group to put itself in a position to do so, he said.

"All you have to do is look at what happened in the northeast when you had a tree fall on a line in rural Ohio," he said of a blackout that affected cities from Detroit to New York last year. "What I am talking about is bringing the U.S. economy to its knees."

The Internet is a prime target because the high-tech economy of the West can be seen as a threat in less-developed areas of the world, he said.

"We welcome rapid, even revolutionary change," he said. "For them, it is profoundly disturbing and even a desperate danger to their way of life."

Gates compared the war on terrorism to the Cold War and warned there is a long battle ahead.

"Terrorism is a global challenge that will take many forms and many years to defeat or contain," he said. "I think we can be certain that terrorists will hit America again."

Terrorism has evolved in the years since Gates served as CIA director during the early 1990s, he said.

In the 1970s and 1980s, most terrorist groups were directed or sponsored by governments such as Iran, Iraq (news - web sites), Libya or Syria, he said. That made it easier to gather intelligence.

"Because they were trying to bring attention to a cause and to win support, they tended to limit the scale of their violence and the number of innocent lives they were prepared to take," he said. "This is obviously no longer the case."

Now terrorists are motivated by religion and are profoundly revolutionary, he said.

"As loathsome as bin Laden and his henchmen are, there is a method to their madness," Gates said. "The primary reason bin Laden attacked the United States three years ago is that dislike and even hatred of the United States is the only point of agreement that cuts across religious, secular and national divisions throughout the Arab Middle East."


Source: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041205/ap_on_hi_te/gates_terrorism


They are spinning about it right now. internet-controlled is a conservative's wet dream so why did I not surprise?
 
Jeez... :fu2:

That's like me saying "Bush sucks"... and they raid my dorm room within minutes! :crazy:
 
Why does this stuff seem so far out of the ordinary? As a web host, I see attempted intrusions on an hourly basis and this is happening to hosts world wide. While I completely disagree with any government control on the internet, the threats are very, very real and it would be ignorant to think otherwise. It would not be far fetched to believe that an attack against the American (or any) infrastructure could take place.

The internet consists of a lot more than message boards and hobby sites. Entire companies are based on internet technology. Do you do on-line banking? What if your banks systems are compromised and you wake up one day to find no money in your account? I'm sure many of you have heard of identity theft. Much of that takes place because the internet exists. What if that website you just purchased from has been compromised and somebody in another country now has your credit card information? The company I own gets anywhere from 2 to 5 orders a day with stolen credit cards. How are those numbers obtained? Generally by hackers in other countries.

If you get bored, take a look at Zone-H and look at how many websites are hacked each day.

Think of how much we do on the internet each day. Imagine if that was taken away right now. Do you not think it would have an impact on the world economy? Should the government control the internet? Absolutely Not. Is the threat against the US infrastructure real? Its very real.
 
 
The Internet is a GLOBAL marketplace

First off, America is not the only country that is dependent on the Internet. Hi, I'm sending this message from Canada! So any attempt to crash the Internet as a whole would wipe out all developed countries, not just the States. This is actually a subject that really irritates me. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to shop online when nobody lists what currency they're using? I always have to look for the contact info to see if the company's in the States (and most of the time I only get an email address). And when I try to look up shipping info, it's usually not even accessible until the second page of the order form. Please, please, please, I would be so grateful for just a little note at the bottom of the page saying "All items are listed in US currency and can only be delivered within the continental US". The internet is a GLOBAL marketplace! Thank you.

Secondly, how are controls supposed to solve the problem? The only solution is to come up with better security protocols and hope for the best. The impression that I get from the article is that Americans should stop using the Internet, lest it be taken away from them. They should stop using electricity and go back to burning lamp oil (remember that blackout on the East Coast?) and should start growing their own food in their own backyards (what if one of those disgruntled immigrant cheap labourers poisoned all of our food!). That way they would no longer be dependent on anything and everybody can stop living in fear. Oh and forget about credit cards, gold nuggets is the only sure way to safeguard your money.
 
I totally agree, Taylor. We have become somewhat overspecialized in our workings and there will be a price to pay for that, inevitably. An example of overspecialization would be to imagine a community of swamp birds living in the same location generation after generation. As the swamp water gets deeper and deeper, their beaks become longer and heavier (in order to reach the food at the bottom). Then one day there is a swamp fire---and because the birds' beaks are so heavy that they cannot fly, they get wiped out. That is a result of overspecialization, and I have a gut feeling it will take a disaster of similar proportion to effect some changes and safeguards in the Internet.
It should be left to the private sector, though, and leave the government out of it, pls.
 
I just saw a TV program yesterday (WETA)
regarding Identity Theft but I missed most of it.
She was giving some very good tips.
 
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