Cloggy
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Just wanted to lift this part out of another topic.
Mookie asked me some questions, and I think the flow of the conversation can be very informative.
To be continued.. I'm sure.
Mookie asked me some questions, and I think the flow of the conversation can be very informative.
Questions by Mookie,
Answers by Cloggy,
Mookie again,
Cloggy replying
How does gesture work for you to understand? Can regular people understand gestures even thought they never learnt about deaf culture?
No answer?
I missed it... (I'm sure you and your friend will think of a nice remark on that...) Yes
Facial expression? "Everyone uses these. With ASL more than speech only"
Come on, Cloggy. Don't you forgotton the opera singers use their facial expression? I watched the facial expression of the actors quoting from william shakespeare play on TV program. Why do you blame whole deafie about using facial expression? I think you have forgotten that your own child with CI does have facial expression. You need to see yours in mirror....Uh, didn't I say everyone uses it? When I learned sign, I had to get used to using MORE facial expression.
Body language? "Everyone uses these. With ASL more than speech only"
Don't you ever see any professional athletes, coaches, and umpires do their own body language? Time out? Foul? "Go that way"? Why do you assume about using ASL more than speech? Did your boss shows his/her finger that one? Come on, Cloggy. You can do better than that. I thought you only speak several languages?Again, didn't I say EVERYONE uses it? Is it your reading skills - or your understanding skills that are lacking?
What is differenet between sign language and oralism? Sign language is a language, Oralism is a method
Come on, Cloggy...don't you know that oralism method allow to use fingerspelling?I know... What's wrong with my answer
Would CI people accept hearing impaired status? If they do not accept HI status, are they losing their identify in deaf culture/deaf soceity? They do. Read the topics and posts of Neecy, R2D2, etc. And if they were connected to Deaf culture. They remain so. It happens that Deaf culture rejects them!
So what. There are so small number of CI people espeically Neecy and R2D2 to accept deaf culture/deaf society. Don't you know that there are lots of people with CI who lost their hearing in their late adult that they do not bother to accept the deaf status. Naturally, there are high percentage in that category. Cloggy, I am gladly that you are with deaf society. But you have forgotten that there are others with CI do not get along with deafies...There's a difference between "getting along with deafies" and "being with deaf society". I'll leave it to someone else to explain... (again)
Why would CI society enjoy getting free CC on tv or using Internet relay service that they do not want to be misunderstood commmuniation? Because when I watch norwegian television, I enjoy subtitles on english films. When communication is not 100% in one language, then CC wil help.
Oh boy, you are a hearie. Maybe you have not found any people with CI in your area.You see, there is something wrong with your memory. Just 1 minute before you wrote this, you mentioned my daughter with CI... "Is there a doctor in this messageboard?"
How comes CI society does not get along with deafies with ASL? Are they ingoring them so that they could climb rapidly in their careers? They do. From what I have read in the topics it's Deaf culture that rejects people that choose for CI. Plenty of examples here, but I guess you reject these.
How do you know if I reject? I do not need CI for the rest of my own life so it is my choice.
I have met some people with CI and I have not provided them any negatives...You see, you have reading and understanding problems.... I said "I guess" which is totally different from "I know". Ask your buddy sitting next to you.... if that would help.
Cloggy, I do not think you have much to explain whole Deaf Culture/Society....
Still need more...I'm sure....
To be continued.. I'm sure.