Prostitution Debate

VamPyroX said:
We have more censorship here in America. Yet, Japan has a lower crime rate than we do. ;)
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and japan is smarter than us :blush:
 
VamPyroX said:
We have more censorship here in America. Yet, Japan has a lower crime rate than we do. ;)
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Indeed. That's where many people failed to realize but I still think it is good idea to criminalized the prostitution due to its regarded as an aspect of male violence against women and children.

Now America plan to ban on the abortions. The crime (blackmarket) rate will be higher in America but that's different topic. Once again, Japan do not have anything against incest sex (i.e. cousin-marriage) *shrug*
 
Malfoyish said:
I hope prostitution is never, EVER made legal here. As for rape, the numbers are high because we live in a sick world. That's something no one has the authority to change, unless of course, they're God. That's not you either, ravensteve. Please consider the feelings of those around you before you make lame remarks and pointless predictions.
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But the problem here is, prostitution is already legal in some ways. If it isn't, then what are porn stars being paid to do?

I believe pornography is a form of prostitution. Only they label it pornography instead. Same with child pornography, the perverts who sell child pornography to people are soliciting prostitution. The more child pornography is bought and viewed, the higher the demand will be for child prostitution.

I know child pornography is illegal, but it's really on a rampage now and not enough is being done. But we still have the adult pornography which is legal, and it's a form of prostitution.
 
When I read about prostitution and child pornography, I felt deep sadness inside me. I think of all the people that had been deeply hurt by this. People paying to have sex and have sexual gratifiation over children....is soooooooo sickening. I just wished that there never had been any prostitution or child porn. We can debate this and that, but the fact is that some people are using each other for wrong reasons. Some children had to go thru this growing up when they should have been in a loving home and have motivation in education and life. Keep innocent in children. Children ARE our future leaders and we are responsible to raise them the best we can.
 
Prostitution is so sad -- and many of the women and boys who are prostitutes were victimes of childhood sexual abuse. Rape and sexual abuse is a crime more about power and submission than sexual desire. Opening the field -- so to speak -- for legal prostitution will only encourage women and boys who have been abused to remain in the cycle of abuse. Additionally, legal prostitution increases a parallel trade in children!

I also firmly believe that prostitution harms all women, by making it culturally acceptable to use and objectify ALL women.

My ex partook of the "military culture" when he was in the Navy. It always deeply disturbed me even though it was in his remote past. Then I found out why I was right to have been disturbed. He found it acceptable to abuse women in one way in the past (physical/sexual/power) and he found it acceptable to abuse me in a different way in the present (emotional/power).

Proper treatement of fellow human beings is mostly taught by the parent, but culture in general has a stake in it to -- and legalizing prostitution, though there are arguments for making it "safer" medically with routine testing, makes mistreatment of women and boys culturally acceptable.
 
demoiselle said:
Additionally, legal prostitution increases a parallel trade in children!
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Same goes for pornography. There are people getting arrested on possessions of child pornography everyday somewhere in America. But there's still many more to arrest, and more children get abused and forced into the sex industry everyday.
 
I have NO idea how this thread turned into this topic - ravensteve made a comment where he was discussing legalizing prostitution to decrease the number of rapes around the country. The reason I got so angry is because the very first post in this thread is indicating that we should go ahead and have sex with anyone we feel like, so that people are satisfied enough to not go out and overpower a woman, a man or a child?

Anyway, it all depends on how you look at prostitution. I do not in any way, shape or form, condone child pornography. It's wrong, and only someone with a truly sick mind would get their jollies from looking at a child being forced into performing sexual acts on another child or an adult.

Adults who make pornographic films are doing so because chances are, they do not view it as prostitution, but as a "job," a "film," or even a good way to get laid without any strings attached. I'm sorry, but I do believe that people like that do exist. Bottom line about pornography - it is done between two consenting adults - for the purpose of entertainment only. Children, whether they are coerced into it or not, have absolutely NO business being in the same sentence as "pornography" or even prostitution.

There is also of course "private" prostitution - this is the kind we see all over the place in the present time. Women having sex freely for a little cash from their suitors, or just because they want to. These women aren't doing it because they want to entertain millions of people in the adult film industry...they're doing it because they have very little to no respect for themselves. Porn stars, in my opinion, are on an ego high, and parade themselves freely in front of cameras simply because they have "the goods," and are proud to show it. Not to say some prostitutes do not think highly of themselves, because some do - but when they are not doing it for other people, it is not pornography.

There IS a difference between pornography and prostitution. It may be only a slight difference, but it is significant enough.
 
Malfoyish said:
I have NO idea how this thread turned into this topic - ravensteve made a comment where he was discussing legalizing prostitution to decrease the number of rapes around the country. The reason I got so angry is because the very first post in this thread is indicating that we should go ahead and have sex with anyone we feel like, so that people are satisfied enough to not go out and overpower a woman, a man or a child?

Anyway, it all depends on how you look at prostitution. I do not in any way, shape or form, condone child pornography. It's wrong, and only someone with a truly sick mind would get their jollies from looking at a child being forced into performing sexual acts on another child or an adult.

Adults who make pornographic films are doing so because chances are, they do not view it as prostitution, but as a "job," a "film," or even a good way to get laid without any strings attached. I'm sorry, but I do believe that people like that do exist. Bottom line about pornography - it is done between two consenting adults - for the purpose of entertainment only. Children, whether they are coerced into it or not, have absolutely NO business being in the same sentence as "pornography" or even prostitution.

There is also of course "private" prostitution - this is the kind we see all over the place in the present time. Women having sex freely for a little cash from their suitors, or just because they want to. These women aren't doing it because they want to entertain millions of people in the adult film industry...they're doing it because they have very little to no respect for themselves. Porn stars, in my opinion, are on an ego high, and parade themselves freely in front of cameras simply because they have "the goods," and are proud to show it. Not to say some prostitutes do not think highly of themselves, because some do - but when they are not doing it for other people, it is not pornography.

There IS a difference between pornography and prostitution. It may be only a slight difference, but it is significant enough.
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Well said! Perfectly depleted my ability to make an arguement concerning prostitution and the difference between prostitution and pornography.

My view at the difference between them are basically the same; demoralization. The influence of their presence in everyday society poses a threat to family values, the value of what marriage is all about. Constant exposure of these things detoriates one's view on how precious sex is in marriage's perspectives. For example if you see your very first candy from store, you dedicate yourself to it until your curiousity led you to another candy, then other.... It will develop one's desire to try other and other.... same is true with men or women when they try someone, then someone else, then other until they eventually get married. Deep inside their heart, they are NEVER satisfied -- "It's time to move on to other..." psychology. Now, with prostitution and pornography influence, they works the same way -- demoralizing the essence of sex as a "gift of true love". Is that what God was trying to tell us through ten commandment, as an answer to today society's problem? Something for us to think about -- whether we should accept prostitution or pornography in our failing society?
 
LinuxGold, good post. I agree, it is a strong symbol of demoralization especially since it encourages promiscuousity which is a concept that I am dead-on against.

Promiscuousity is a display of irresponsiblity and stupidity. Why? Because it can spread diseases, even if condoms are used. They still are not 100% effective.

Porn stars has no respect for their bodies, period. Even if they have strict safety measurements, they still don't respect their bodies.

Prostitutes too.
 
thats not only thing about self respect .. it also about how people treat prostitutes..
you think those women only had sex... not true... they also get beat up, and if they have pimp... the pimp usually beat them up for it... and by the way if they got pimp.. they usually have to pay 85% of what they got from men they had sex with and 15% of money is theirs and it s usually is not enough to pay bills, let alone food. when they dont have a pimp... they usually buy drugs because they needs it.. the drugs numb out the pain... lonely... fear... etc.. so they wont have enough money for bills... it keeps going on and on and on... the funny thing is.. they usually says they loves it.. which is full of bullshit

they got no respect for themselves cuz they usually feel they dont deserve it.
 
SpiceHD said:
thats not only thing about self respect .. it also about how people treat ..
you think those women only had sex... not true... they also get beat up, and if they have pimp... the pimp usually beat them up for it... and by the way if they got pimp.. they usually have to pay 85% of what they got from men they had sex with and 15% of money is theirs and it s usually is not enough to pay bills, let alone food. when they dont have a pimp... they usually buy drugs because they needs it.. the drugs numb out the pain... lonely... fear... etc.. so they wont have enough money for bills... it keeps going on and on and on... the funny thing is.. they usually says they loves it.. which is full of bullshit

they got no respect for themselves cuz they usually feel they dont deserve it.
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Agreed.

I feel for prostitutes because I know they don't want to but they have no choice because they need money to pay off the bills, debts, etc.

I know these stories from prositiutes what they have an experience with pimp (procuer). It's illegal what they did to prostitutes.

Accord German law: The police must control prostitutes houses. They are strict about this. They will get in trouble if they don't have liecsne. They have good pimp (procuer).

I read your posts here and feel sad for you what you had been through.


Well said, Malyoisch!!! :applause: You said this better!

I choose to ignore Ravensteven's stupid thread! He don't know how treat the women as special and consider women's feel but fuck to satafisy himself is understandable for him. :madfawk:

I have mixed feeling (sad and angry) because it's terrible to see women and children prostitution because they SUFFERING!!!!!!!
 
Sure, Prositution is legal in Europe.
There're also rapist in Europe, too.

The rapist is nothing do with the reason why Prositution is illegal in America.

The reason why the humans turn into Rapist:

Because they do not need to pay to have sex.
Because nobody want him or her.
Because of their physical problems due childhood in the past that's how they need more attention and satafisy.

What you think?
 
Mod Note:

Mod Note: The original thread should have been credited to Magatsu, the first post should have been #12 instead of the one that's currently the first post....Due to a mistake I had made while splitting posts from another thread and merging the posts into Magatsu's new thread...I do apologize for any inconviences I may have caused with my blunder....

Please let's not blame on Ravensteve1961 since he didn't create this thread to begin with...nor does it mean to put blame on Magatsu also....

Once again, I apologize for the 'mess-up' I may have caused in this thread--
 
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Oh, I got your message Roadrunner! I understand now. No prloblem

I didn't know that you splitting the posts between Ravensteven and Magastu until now. I thought Ravensteven create his own thread.

Thank you for clarify, Roadrunner! :thumb:
 
Roadrunner said:
Mod Note: The original thread should have been credited to Magatsu, the first post should have been #12 instead of the one that's currently the first post....Due to a mistake I had made while splitting posts from another thread and merging the posts into Magatsu's new thread...I do apologize for any inconviences I may have caused with my blunder....

Please let's not blame on Ravensteve1961 since he didn't create this thread to begin with...nor does it mean to put blame on Magatsu also....

Once again, I apologize for the 'mess-up' I may have caused in this thread--
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I believe that was not because of his first post. It was his content (comment) in that post which made many women feel offend.. but it is not my place to say anything anyway. Thank you for clearing it up! :thumb:

Now, I must take my leave from this community. Liebling, I will pm you in a minute.
 
Agreed, Magatsu.

The content of the first post was insensitive, and I responded accordingly. I am not placing blame on anyone - only stating my own beliefs and WHY I believe 'em. Wouldn't make a difference if it was number 1 or number 12 - it was still a rather offensive, ridiculous and degrading thing to say/suggest. The theory and idea presented was preposterous.

I will stand by that.

Anyway. How 'bout those Yankees?
 
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