Don't forget to do us a favor and dispose of them properly!
But its fun to leave all those papers around!! Especially whrn people confuse them for their napkins.
Don't forget to do us a favor and dispose of them properly!
Don't they have directions on how to use one? Most, if not all, have directions on how to use one if a life is at stake.
The thing is, it's a liability for them to let anyone without that training to use the AED. If it is connected incorrectly, or injures the person causing anything and everything up to death, that's their liability. That's why I'm trying to understand why they'd let someone rush out (you) with their machine. I sure as hell wouldn't let someone who wasn't trained to use the AED run out of my place of business with it. Even something as minor as having metal around the electrodes can cause serious injury. ( under-wire in bras for example ) Not to mention being trained to look and see if there is possibly a pace-maker in the person or god knows what. Just seems off...
I'd been wondering that, until I realized someone with medical training was already there, and was asking for one, cause from what I gathered the Fire Department ambulance was several miles away, and time was of essence. It took them nearly 20-25 minutes to get there. Don't remember if it was a doctor or a nurse, but it was someone. Could've been a police officer, too, because their cars are supposed to have them, but the details now are just a tad fuzzy-- was many years ago, but I'll never forget that young woman passed out on the ground and her life at stake.
I call Double BS this time ... you said you had used one a few times not someone with medical training was asking for one ... and passed out on the ground is A LOT different than code blue ... I am Fire/Rescue 20+ years and it don't take that long for responders to get on the scene of a code requiring CPR/AED even if its county level ALS they'll run balls to the wall and get there way faster than that ...
The thing is, it's a liability for them to let anyone without that training to use the AED. If it is connected incorrectly, or injures the person causing anything and everything up to death, that's their liability. That's why I'm trying to understand why they'd let someone rush out (you) with their machine. I sure as hell wouldn't let someone who wasn't trained to use the AED run out of my place of business with it. Even something as minor as having metal around the electrodes can cause serious injury. ( under-wire in bras for example ) Not to mention being trained to look and see if there is possibly a pace-maker in the person or god knows what. Just seems off...
My background is in Pharmacology. I have performed CPR just one time. AED's are serious and like Mew says can cause serious injury even death. Everyone should know CPR but shocking someones heart, definitely needs to be done by a professional. You can't tell by looking at me, but I'm full of metal.
And that's why I asked for a medical professional from the crowd-- I didn't want to be held liable for something I might not know about. Someone came out of the crowd and began to do a quick check, which I am NOT trained to do-- and when the person said an AED was necessary, I asked if there was a pacemaker (I kept this in mind), and we checked for scars, and didn't see one, or anything to indicate there was one there, so we went ahead and got one, but it took some convincing the hotel that there was a medical professional already there (One of their staff actually had to verify this) before they let me go with it. Wowsers...... all the details coming back now.
Yeaaaaaaaaaah...... We get a Blue in the ER and it's an INSTANT panic fest! We're waiting there at the ambulance landing before they even get on property. I have a few friends in the FD and Paramedic side of things, and I'm pretty sure if they took 25 minutes they'd have all been fired! That's why they can run lights and stuff.
Forgetting details is a bit off.... I know if I was telling someone I ran in and grabbed this machine and read the manual to learn how to use it and THEN there was someone with medical training....that's an important detail. Again, just.... no. Completely different stories as ncff said.
I'm not going to sit here and call you out on every little detail you "forget" as the story is picked apart. All I'm saying is that you need to watch what things "you forget" in a story. A trained medical professional being there to assist you with an AED and its operation is a HELL of a lot different than you reading a "How to" or instruction manual and saving someone yourself, just for future reference.
It's getting deep in here I think I'll break out the hip waders ...
I was just thinking the same thing.... I think I'll go make myself some popcorn and relax a little bit... maybe some of it will drain out.
The girl probably didn't make it and if she did I'd be pretty sure she had some type of brain damage if it was a real code blue ... brain can recover with 3 to 6 minutes without oxygen but anything over theres gonna be brain damage ... and anything over 10 with no breathing or circulations is gonna be a vegetable ... I think it was the 15 minute time they declare them brain dead with no oxygen you can correct me if I'm wrong I'm over due for a refresher ...
Well of course there is testing to see if someone is officially brain dead. However now a days yes you're correct. Anything over 10 - 15 minutes ( depending on the circumstance ) with no oxygen we usually assume they'll be brain dead. Usually it's closer to the 10 minute mark. If it's colder outside and their temperature was able to drop fast, you can actually be brought back with no oxygen for longer periods of time! Pretty nifty right? :P Bringing someone back after 5 minutes of death is rare without a medically trained professional doing it, sadly.
I try and avoid the hospital at all costs.... Nothing like explaining something stupid to your coworkers... I know we all text stories through the day to see who wins lunch for the most stupid visit!!!
Was it a medically induced coma or were you just in a coma? We have a lot of people tell us some weird things they experience in a coma, especially medically induced comas. Luckily I have never been in one and I hope to avoid any lengthy hospital stays. :Ohno:
I had both, coma then medically induced coma later. Freaky stuff went on during that time. The stories you hear are true.
I was hovering close to death when I got sick with sepsis. My BP was something like 53/36 and I went totally deaf before the ambulance arrived. In Hospital/ICU for 32+ days. I was in a coma the whole time, no memory at all. I experienced some freaky stuff during that time.