Gulf residents outraged by BP CEO's yacht outing

saywhatkid said:
Typical Conservative thinking; it is all about the money. This from someone that gets their kicks playing games on a chemical wasteland, otherwise known as a golf course. Perhaps some of these people will take the money and move away, perhaps not. However, the area being damaged by this oil is not necessarily going to bounce back to the previous state. For those of us that enjoy a nice stroll on the beach, life may never return to normal. Guess we will have to travel elsewhere. Europe?

Feel free to spin this into another anti-Obama diatribe. After all, he is the reason for all that is wrong. :roll:
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Pacific Coast is nice too :)
 
kokonut said:
"I don't think he has any feelings. If I was in his position, I think I'd be in a more responsible place. I think he should be with someone out trying to plug the leak." That's what Mike Strohmeyer said. I agree.
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This could be a first, but....we agree. I realize he might have planned this outing months ago, but his company has a severe image issue right now.

As for anyone that plans to boycott BP, you are not going to hurt them one bit. You will hurt the small gas station owner that probably feels the same way most of us do in this saga. BP will still make their money, no matter what.
 
Don't bother to boycott BP

From Yahoo News

BP feels no pain at pump when consumers boycott
Fri Jun 18, 2:51 pm ET

.Looking to vent your rage at BP? Enjoying the satisfaction of driving a few blocks further past the BP station to gas up at a Shell — while muttering under your breath, "Take that, you negligent corporate monolith! I'll take my business elsewhere." Well, you can stop now.

As several news outlets have noted, consumer protests have no real impact on BP's bottom line. What's more, protesting BP with your pocketbook mainly ends up hurting innocent gas-station operators who have nothing to do with the Deepwater Horizon spill.

Consumer advocacy groups such as Public Citizen have called for a boycott of BP gas stations, and some local station owners have reported falloffs in sales that are as steep as 40 percent.

But — as the Chicago Tribune and New York Times have pointed out — BP doesn't actually own any gas stations. It licenses the BP brand out to independent station owners in a franchise model, and collects a relative pittance from the deals. So if you withhold your business from your local BP station, you're really only hurting the local businessman or chain who owns that particular store. And what they're being punished for is the mistake of signing up with BP instead of ExxonMobil or Sunoco. Those station owners also say they're as angry as anyone else over BP's handling of the spill.

But at the very least, patronizing a non-BP gas station means BP is selling less gas, right? Wrong again, according to the Tribune.

Because oil is a globally traded commodity, there is no easy way to confirm which exploration company is responsible for that tank of gas you just bought, regardless of what the signage over the pump says.

According to the Times, gasoline gets to stations from a variety of wholesalers — some of which are owned by BP. But the commodity is essentially anonymous until proprietary additives get mixed in at the station. So buying gas from a competitor doesn't guarantee consumers that, at some point along the supply chain, it wasn't owned by BP.

Eventually, a truck pulls up to collect and deliver the gasoline to stations. It is often only then that the ingredients that make it BP fuel get added. "It doesn't become a brand of gasoline until it gets those additives," said Brandon Wright, a spokesman for the Petroleum Marketers Association of America.

And if sales are down, it's easy enough for BP to sell off any excess inventory to other stations.

The only way to make sure BP suffers, in other words, is to stop buying petroleum products. And if you were worried about environmental degradation in the Gulf, you probably should have taken that pledge a long time ago.

— John Cook is a senior national reporter/blogger for Yahoo! News.
 
Beowulf said:
Why doesn't Strohmeyer plug the hole himself instead of whining?
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Maybe because he is a lodge owner, not an oil specialist. Plus I doubt he has the equipment to offer much in the way of help.
 
saywhatkid said:
From Yahoo News

BP feels no pain at pump when consumers boycott
Fri Jun 18, 2:51 pm ET

.Looking to vent your rage at BP? Enjoying the satisfaction of driving a few blocks further past the BP station to gas up at a Shell — while muttering under your breath, "Take that, you negligent corporate monolith! I'll take my business elsewhere." Well, you can stop now.

As several news outlets have noted, consumer protests have no real impact on BP's bottom line. What's more, protesting BP with your pocketbook mainly ends up hurting innocent gas-station operators who have nothing to do with the Deepwater Horizon spill.

Consumer advocacy groups such as Public Citizen have called for a boycott of BP gas stations, and some local station owners have reported falloffs in sales that are as steep as 40 percent.

But — as the Chicago Tribune and New York Times have pointed out — BP doesn't actually own any gas stations. It licenses the BP brand out to independent station owners in a franchise model, and collects a relative pittance from the deals. So if you withhold your business from your local BP station, you're really only hurting the local businessman or chain who owns that particular store. And what they're being punished for is the mistake of signing up with BP instead of ExxonMobil or Sunoco. Those station owners also say they're as angry as anyone else over BP's handling of the spill.

But at the very least, patronizing a non-BP gas station means BP is selling less gas, right? Wrong again, according to the Tribune.

Because oil is a globally traded commodity, there is no easy way to confirm which exploration company is responsible for that tank of gas you just bought, regardless of what the signage over the pump says.

According to the Times, gasoline gets to stations from a variety of wholesalers — some of which are owned by BP. But the commodity is essentially anonymous until proprietary additives get mixed in at the station. So buying gas from a competitor doesn't guarantee consumers that, at some point along the supply chain, it wasn't owned by BP.

Eventually, a truck pulls up to collect and deliver the gasoline to stations. It is often only then that the ingredients that make it BP fuel get added. "It doesn't become a brand of gasoline until it gets those additives," said Brandon Wright, a spokesman for the Petroleum Marketers Association of America.

And if sales are down, it's easy enough for BP to sell off any excess inventory to other stations.

The only way to make sure BP suffers, in other words, is to stop buying petroleum products. And if you were worried about environmental degradation in the Gulf, you probably should have taken that pledge a long time ago.

— John Cook is a senior national reporter/blogger for Yahoo! News.
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Indeed, boycott against BP gas stations are wasting of time but rather to hurt the local gas station instead of BP corporation.

I'm trying around to find a idea for anti-BP protesters to make BP to be suffer instead of local gas stations.
 
kokonut said:
Er, didn't you read the article??
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Why are you ask him? Are you trying to change his opinion?

Just let answer his question without push them to read the article and sometime, they may not get it or not agree with it.
 
TXgolfer said:
Meh, it's been 2 months. He is entitled to a family life as much as anyone else. It's not like he blew the rig up. His people said the rig was safe and Federal inspectors agreed.
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CEO and BP knowingly skimp on rig's safety, knowingly operated it at hazardous level, knowingly "bribed" the officials to overlook it, and knowingly delayed the rescue effort.
 
Foxrac said:
Why are you ask him? Are you trying to change his opinion?

Just let answer his question without push them to read the article and sometime, they may not get it or not agree with it.
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Er, I'm asking him, not you.
 
The worst environmental disaster in history and it happened on Obama's watch.

Is it too early to retract the Nobel Peace Prize?
 
Steinhauer said:
And knowingly bought machines from Kevin Costner that will help clean up the oil spill and knowingly will pay for the entire clean up.

The Federal Government was not interested in Kevin Costner's machines.

Kevin Costner?s oil cleanup machines being used to save the Gulf | The Money Times
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1. The Feds left most of the decisions to BP to manage the mess
2. whatca ya doing about, willis? where in the article did it say that Feds are not interested?
3. PR ploy. Just because BP bought machines from Costner doesn't mean they will use it.

BP 'Excited' Over Kevin Costner's Oil Cleanup Machine, Purchases 32 - ABC News
Costner is confident the oil separator can make a difference, but says for the past 12 years he's been frustrated by the government's and oil companies' lack of interest in his and other technologies.
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During the initial test, the machine failed to work because the oil had been transformed to a peanut butter-like thickness due to the effects of the dispersants. The machines were then adjusted to handle the thick consistency, and now they work as intended, Costner's publicist said.
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That's why it took time for his machine to come to fruition. He presented it to BP officials only last month.
 
Steinhauer said:
knowingly will pay for the entire clean up.
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Obama had to kick BP's ass to get them into holding them fully-liable for it, pay more for compensation, and make them work faster.
 
Jiro said:
1. The Feds left most of the decisions to BP to manage the mess
2. whatca ya doing about, willis? where in the article did it say that Feds are not interested?
3. PR ploy. Just because BP bought machines from Costner doesn't mean they will use it.

BP 'Excited' Over Kevin Costner's Oil Cleanup Machine, Purchases 32 - ABC News




That's why it took time for his machine to come to fruition. He presented it to BP officials only last month.
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I have been reading about Kevin Costner's machines. He tried to get the Feds interested in them for 17 years.

BP showed an interest interestingly enough .... AFTER it was needed.

Feds? nope ....
 
The worst thing the Fed can do regarding an oil spill in Federal waters is to wait and let an oil company do something about the spill. That's exactly what happeend. The Fed had the opportunity to begin using those skimmers during the first week of that spill. It's simple to waive the Jones Act and get something going first hand if other countries are willing to help using their oil skimmer ships.

What we have is a walking disaster.
 
Steinhauer said:
I have been reading about Kevin Costner's machines. He tried to get the Feds interested in them for 17 years.

BP showed an interest interestingly enough .... AFTER it was needed.

Feds? nope ....
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1. 17 years ago? so whose fault was that? Lemme guess - Obama, right? even though he wasn't the President at that time.
2. Is it Fed's obligation to pursue every single oil removal proposal (there are thousands of them)?
3. Don't you believe it's ultimately oil company's responsibility to come up with oil removal method in case of accident? They spent millions in improving oil extraction and oil detection.... and yet nearly nothing on oil removal? Did you know BP boasted about its blowout valve as the high-tech, advanced technology to prevent the oil spill?
 
how many times do we need to hear "I am confident that......" from BP CEO until he FULLY realizes that BP has absolutely NO viable solution to stop this mess?

"I am confident that the cap will capture majority of leaking oil"
"I am confident that the engineers and robots will close the blowout valve"
"I am confident that the junk shot will stop the leak"
"I am confident that the 2nd deep-water drilling to intercept the oil well will stop the leak"
"I am confident that........"

.....and while it's leaking hundreds of thousands gallons everyday.... and while people are very concerned about losing their livelihood..... and while hundreds if not thousands of animals are dying.... and while our sensitive ecosystem is ruined.... he's out there, sailing in his expensive yacht... :roll:
 
Jiro said:
1. 17 years ago? so whose fault was that? Lemme guess - Obama, right? even though he wasn't the President at that time.
2. Is it Fed's obligation to pursue every single oil removal proposal (there are thousands of them)?
3. Don't you believe it's ultimately oil company's responsibility to come up with oil removal method in case of accident? They spent millions in improving oil extraction and oil detection.... and yet nearly nothing on oil removal? Did you know BP boasted about its blowout valve as the high-tech, advanced technology to prevent the oil spill?
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why didn't they buy it NOW when it was needed? BP did.
 
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