Grossly Overpaid CEO of Communication Service for the Deaf

Here is a website link to find out how much a family ( 2 parents & 3 kids ) would make.

I think $800,000 is too much for a CEO managing Deaf services. We need Deaf services to help when the help is needed.

Basic family budget calculator

http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/datazone_fambud_budget
 
Gemtun said:
I did not say that I know everything. I am speaking from my personal experience. I work for a nonprofit organization myself as second top boss and I went without raise in 2 years so that I could see my employees getting paid decently.

Last week, two of people who got laid off at the CSD service here were devastated and I had to comfort them.

I am speaking from my personal experience, not that I know it all.
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;) Isn't it a time for you to enroll for the federal/state grant? Isn't it a time for you to discuss with your boss to re-organize your non-profit ogranation? Isn't it a time to rewrite a mission statement and vision statement?

I believe that you know everything in your job but isn't it a time for you to learn how to polish your public speaking skill at the fundrising sites? Are you better than CSD CEO?
 
Mookie said:
Oh boy,

Tell me, Heath

How much does Pat Robertson and the 700 Club exectives makes money?
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Don't push it right there, man !!! The 700 Club really manages their money really good.

I can tell you this though that TBN is much, much worse with their finanical management. I do not even give money to TBN at all. I give money to the 700 Club.

If you are not sure what TBN is... I don't give money to TBN. Here is the website link:

http://www.tbn.org/
 
Heath said:
Don't push it right there, man !!! The 700 Club really manages their money really good.

I can tell you this though that TBN is much, much worse with their finanical management. I do not even give money to TBN at all. I give money to the 700 Club.

If you are not sure what TBN is... I don't give money to TBN. Here is the website link:

http://www.tbn.org/
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Do you really like Benny Hinn? BTW, he owns a big yacht...
 
Heath said:
Don't push it right there, man !!! The 700 Club really manages their money really good.

I can tell you this though that TBN is much, much worse with their finanical management. I do not even give money to TBN at all. I give money to the 700 Club.

If you are not sure what TBN is... I don't give money to TBN. Here is the website link:

http://www.tbn.org/
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Did you ask Daddo (Pat Robertson) for the grant to support you for speaking out on AD?
 
Mookie said:
;) Isn't it a time for you to enroll for the federal/state grant? Isn't it a time for you to discuss with your boss to re-organize your non-profit ogranation? Isn't it a time to rewrite a mission statement and vision statement?

I believe that you know everything in your job but isn't it a time for you to learn how to polish your public speaking skill at the fundrising sites? Are you better than CSD CEO?
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You have no idea what I do for work so it is not appropriate for you to be making assumptions.

Again, stop putting words in my mouth. I have never said that I am better than Soukup.

I have no desire to continue this with you because you keep either assuming or putting words in my mouth.
 
Mookie said:
Do you really like Benny Hinn? BTW, he owns a big yacht...
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People here on AllDeaf know what I had to say about Benny Hinn before and I will say this again.

F.Y.I.

I hate Benny Hinn.

Remember:

Benny Hinn asks for money at his healing crusades.

Jesus Christ never asked for money. Jesus Christ healed for free !!!!
 
Mookie said:
Did you ask Daddo (Pat Robertson) for the grant to support you for speaking out on AD?
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:roll: my eyes at your comment. :roll:

:angel: Abba Father in Holy Heaven is my Heavenly Father. :angel:
 
Gemtun said:
You have no idea what I do for work so it is not appropriate for you to be making assumptions.

Again, stop putting words in my mouth. I have never said that I am better than Soukup.

I have no desire to continue this with you because you keep either assuming or putting words in my mouth.
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I am not putting words in your mouth. I may lay off at federal agency when it phrases out next year. Are you happy?
 
Mookie said:
I am not putting words in your mouth. I may lay off at federal agency when it phrases out next year. Are you happy?
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Why would I be happy? I am not the kind of person who wishes ill luck on anyone! I do feel for ANYONE who gets laid off or will be laid off in near future.
 
Gemtun said:
Why would I be happy? I am not the kind of person who wishes ill luck on anyone! I do feel for ANYONE who gets laid off or will be laid off in near future.
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Welcome to the competive world...
 
Mookie said:
Hello Endymion,

I thought you are supposed to check the facts on CSD website first before you input your opinion.

How much does the YMCA president makes?
How much does the FannieMae president makes?

Did you know that CSD CEO manges 42 offices and 3,000 employees? Do you think it is a good salary for the large company?

No body is perfect....
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Hi Mookie,

I appreciate your comments on the subject.

Unfortunately, I must disagree. From the Bureau of Labor Statistics:

According to a 2005 survey by Abbott, Langer, and Associates, the median income of chief executive officers in the nonprofit sector was $88,006 in 2005, but some of the highest paid made more than $700,000.

http://stats.bls.gov/oco/ocos012.htm
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That's the median income. You know that means that more than 50% of all nonprofit CEOS made less than $88,006 in 2005? That's right, mere software engineers at Amazon.com (Level 1 SDEs earn $75,000, Level 2 and 3 SDEs earn more) earn almost as much as a nonprofit CEO.

Benjamin Soukup's income is, according to Gemtun's link, in significant excess of $800,000. The Bureau of Labor Statistics cites that the highest paid of all nonprofit CEOs pass $700,000.

It becomes clear that Soukup's income far exceeds the top quintile, decile and possibly even percentile of all nonprofit CEOs.

So now, how does CSD compare to other nonprofit organizations?

We must compare CSD to large nonprofits, especially since Soukup's income is among the top of the top. Let us look at nonprofits from the Philanthropy 400 (the link I use is from 2001):

http://www.fund-online.com/classes/internet_0111/philanthropy400_2001.html

#1 Salvation Army. Income for 2001 fiscal year: $2.8 billion.
#10 Nature Conservancy. Income for 2001 fiscal year: $784 million
#23 Johns Hopkins. Income for 2001 fiscal year: $2.0 billion

It is fairly evident that a firm like CSD does not even remotely compare to major organization in the Philanthropy 400.

Now, I am unable to find the financial statements for CSD because I really need to take off (if you're really tight about it and you want them, we can try to pull them up for you), but can you possibly even IMAGINE a nonprofit the size of CSD approaching the reach and influence of a major nonprofit?

Any nonprofit executive compensated in excess of $800,000 a year is definitely worth a few raised eyebrows, especially since $800,000 is far above the market mean. Even more so, an executive of a nonprofit compensated in excess of $800,000 at a firm with CSD's size and reach is definitely worth more than a few raised eyebrows.
 
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Endymion said:
Hi Mookie,

I appreciate your comments on the subject.

Unfortunately, I must disagree. From the Bureau of Labor Statistics:



That's the median income. You know that means that more than 50% of all nonprofit CEOS made less than $88,006 in 2005? That's right, mere software engineers at Amazon.com (Level 1 SDEs earn $75,000, Level 2 and 3 SDEs earn more) earn almost as much as a nonprofit CEO.

Benjamin Soukup's income is, according to Gemtun's link, in significant excess of $800,000. The Bureau of Labor Statistics cites that the highest paid of all nonprofit CEOs pass $700,000.

It becomes clear that Soukup's income far exceeds the top quintile, decile and possibly even percentile of all nonprofit CEOs.

So now, how does CSD compare to other nonprofit organizations?

We must compare CSD to large nonprofits, especially since Soukup's income is among the top of the top. Let us look at nonprofits from the Philanthropy 400 (the link I use is from 2001):

http://www.fund-online.com/classes/internet_0111/philanthropy400_2001.html

#1 Salvation Army. Income for 2001 fiscal year: $2.8 billion.
#10 Nature Conservancy. Income for 2001 fiscal year: $784 million
#23 Johns Hopkins. Income for 2001 fiscal year: $2.0 billion

It is fairly evident that a firm like CSD does not even remotely compare to major firms in the Philanthropy 400.

Now, I am unable to find the financial statements for CSD because I really need to take off (if you're really tight about it and you want them, we can try to pull them up for you), but can you possibly even IMAGINE a nonprofit the size of CSD approaching the reach and influence of a major nonprofit?

Any nonprofit executive compensated in excess of $800,000 a year is definitely worth a few raised eyebrows, especially since $800,000 is far above the market mean. Even more so, an executive of a nonprofit compensated in excess of $800,000 at a firm with CSD's size and reach is definitely worth more than a few raised eyebrows.
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Thanks,

One more question. Can you provide me top 20 Non-Profit Org. CEO with Salaires?
 
Mookie said:
Thanks,

One more question. Can you provide me top 20 Non-Profit Org. CEO with Salaires?
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No problem. :) I'm glad you shared CSD's figures with us too.

While searching for executive compensation at the top organizations, I found this link instead. Organizations exceeding $50 million (generally the largest) report an average of just under $218,000 for nonprofit CEOs. Soukup's income is nearly 400% that.

When it comes to executive salaries, organizational size still matters most, with the top spot at the largest organizations ($50 million-plus) reporting an average of just under $218,000. Those executives at organizations raising less than $1 million posted an average of less than $59,300.

http://www.nptimes.com/Feb02/sr1.html
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If I find a source with compensation at the top 20 organizations, I'll be sure to pass it on. Maybe someone else can post a link?
 
Endymion said:
No problem. :) I'm glad you shared CSD's figures with us too.

While searching for executive compensation at the top organizations, I found this link instead. Organizations exceeding $50 million (generally the largest) report an average of just under $218,000 for nonprofit CEOs. Soukup's income is nearly 400% that.



If I find a source with compensation at the top 20 organizations, I'll be sure to pass it on. Maybe someone else can post a link?
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Thanks Endymion, you may disregard my request. What do you think of my post? CSD may not make the highly success without the highly skilled specialists. That's why CSD may have to pay them higher salaries. No CEO's salary is higher than any employee's salary...
 
Mookie said:
Thanks Endymion, you may disregard my request. What do you think of my post? CSD may not make the highly success without the highly skilled specialists. That's why CSD may have to pay them higher salaries. No CEO's salary is higher than any employee's salary...
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I read your post, and I think that in certain situations, it is a very effective point. It's a great point you bring up!

Your point is also why CEOs are paid a lot more than manufacturing laborers. I also think that's why Soukup deserves at least a big salary and not something as crazy and low as $40,000 a year. He deserves more than that, a lot more than that.

But I also wonder about Andrew Lange. Lange has relevant executive experience and an MA in Organizational Management with a 3.98 GPA (albeit from the University of Phoenix).

Other possible candidates come to mind. Benjamin Bahan has a PhD and is Vice President of Dawn Sign Press. Dragonsani Renteria is CEO of DeafVision. Nancy J. Bloch was the executive director of NAD and is now CEO and ex-officio board member.

All of the above people have the experience, skills, and capacity to effectively take on the role of Soukup's job. Of course, they're all busy with other things, so I don't think they'd take Soukup's job. The point is, though, that many other qualified people exist. I know of a deaf Cornell MBA who might be qualified, and there are others who I don't know about.

Since other people may be able to do CSD's CEO job, Soukup's skills are not so rare, so the cost of them are not as high as $800,000+. Maybe if Soukup was paid $200,000, I would be more satisfied.

What do you think he should get paid?
 
I think I agree that it's quite too much earning $800k as a CEO for the deaf services .. regarding what kind of that job and its pressures comparing to other certain jobs do. But I am no judge here.

Geez, maybe I ought to be much better off as a CEO instead! :mrgreen:
 
I think that 800K was just a one-time thing--in a good year but the average is somewhere around half that. I don't see a problem with it. And as for the lay-offs, laying off 10 out of 3, 000 employees is not bad at all and this was after the top execs agreed to a 10 to 30 % decrease in pay.

I'd hate to see this degrade into another of those "crab theories" things I so often hear associated with the deaf.

Instead, let's say "Yay, more power to them"!
 
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