Gay Marriage Opponents (in the US) now in the Minority

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Gay Marriage Opponents Now in Minority - NYTimes.com

Nate Silver said:
A poll from CNN this week is the latest to show a majority of Americans in favor of same-sex marriage, with 51 percent saying that marriages between gay and lesbian couples “should be recognized by the law as valid” and 47 percent opposed.

This is the fourth credible poll in the past eight months to show an outright majority of Americans in favor of gay marriage. That represents quite a lot of progress for supporters of same-sex marriage. Prior to last year, there had been just one survey — a Washington Post poll conducted in April 2009 — to show support for gay marriage as the plurality position, and none had shown it with a majority.

As we noted last August, support for gay marriage seems to have been increasing at an accelerated pace over the past couple of years. Below is an update to the graph from last year’s article, which charts the trend from all available public polls on same-sex marriage going back to 1988.

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The trendline — derived through regression smoothing — estimates that about 50 percent of Americans now support gay marriage and that 46 percent are opposed, with a small percentage of voters undecided. By contrast, at this time two years ago, the numbers were 42 percent in favor and 53 percent opposed, according to the same technique.

The change — about a 4 percentage-point shift in favor of gay marriage in each of the last two years — is about double the longer-term rate of progress for supporters of gay marriage, which has been between 1 and 2 percentage points per year.

There is a margin of error associated with the calculation of the trendline, so it is too soon to say with confidence that support for gay marriage has become the plurality position (let alone the majority one). Other polls — like a Pew survey released in March — continue to show opinion split about evenly.
However, opponents of gay marriage almost certainly no longer constitute a majority; just one of the last nine polls has shown opposition to gay marriage above 50 percent.

Gay marriage advocates still face some challenges, however. The only time a statewide ballot proposition to limit gay marriage was defeated was in Arizona in 2006, although a narrower version of that initiative was passed by the state’s voters in 2008. Gay marriage advocates lost key ballot proposition battles in California in 2008 and Maine in 2009.

Both the California and Maine results were close, and because opinion is shifting so quickly on the issue, the outcomes would probably be different if they were voted on again today. At the same time, the people who turn out to vote are considerably older than the population as a whole, so gay marriage will not perform quite as well at the ballot booth as in surveys of the general population. In addition, whenever a position is gaining ground, its newly won support is often tentative and can be peeled away by an effective counter-campaign.

But Republican candidates, who have placed less emphasis on gay marriage in recent years, probably cannot expect their opposition to it to be a net electoral positive for them except in select circumstances. If support for gay marriage were to continue accelerating as fast as it has in the past two years, supporters would outnumber opponents roughly 56-40 in the general population by November 2012.

Past trends, of course, are no guarantee of future ones, and it’s always possible that the momentum toward increasing support for gay marriage could flatten out or even reverse itself.

But this does put Republicans in a tricky position. Their traditional position on gay marriage is becoming less popular. But to the extent they disengage from the issue, they may lose even more ground. One way to read the trends of the past few years is that we have passed an inflection point wherein it is no longer politically advantageous for candidates to oppose same-sex marriage, which in turn softens opposition to it among the general public, creating a sort of feedback loop and accelerating the trend.
 
Good news. People are finally understanding that another's sexual orientation is no threat to them or their own lifestyle. About time!
 
YUP!!! That's great news for me. :D

I remember about I posted in few months ago that gay marriage supporters and gay marriage opponents are closer by 1%.

I'm bisexual male. ;)
 
Woohoo! I'm waiting for the day a major well established Protestant denomination will also recognize gay marriages as valid. (aside from the Episcopal church which is essentially the American branch of the Church of England).
 
Meh, it's just a poll. :lol:

It's actually an aggregation of numerous polls, rather than one individual poll. The point of the article wasn't one individual poll that crossed the 50% line, but the regression line (which represents the average of all scientific polls on the subject conducted)which crossed that.

In other words, it's more likely that >50% actually support it, rather than it simply being a fluke.
 
It's actually an aggregation of numerous polls, rather than one individual poll. The point of the article wasn't one individual poll that crossed the 50% line, but the regression line (which represents the average of all scientific polls on the subject conducted)which crossed that.

In other words, it's more likely that >50% actually support it, rather than it simply being a fluke.

Yay! Someone who understands research methodology and statistics!!
 
It's actually an aggregation of numerous polls, rather than one individual poll. The point of the article wasn't one individual poll that crossed the 50% line, but the regression line (which represents the average of all scientific polls on the subject conducted)which crossed that.

In other words, it's more likely that >50% actually support it, rather than it simply being a fluke.

You missed the joke.
 
Hmm. Yeah, I was puzzled that I thought any one who is gay or lesbian involving in military duty, in military offices are not allowed to marry unless they are retired because of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy but until my sister told me its policy no longer in Massachusetts (the first state to legalize gay marriage.) Well, I'm behind the news, especially isn't following Political news that often. Is this true? Because my sister is engaged right now and is going to marry in the next year of April. Two years ago, my sister told me she would get married once she retires from military duties at 55 but now she's 46 and told me the law has recently changed, bent the law.
 
Not sure what your Q was. Don't Ask, Don't Tell was more or less repealed last year. People have been able to marry in MA for awhile. Is that what you mean? MA enacted a law about marriage, not gay people in the military.
 
Not sure what your Q was. Don't Ask, Don't Tell was more or less repealed last year. People have been able to marry in MA for awhile. Is that what you mean? MA enacted a law about marriage, not gay people in the military.

Yup, that's correct but DADT will be completely repealed by around summer 2011.
 
Of course, the rightness or wrongness of anything is not determined by polls.
 
Of course, the rightness or wrongness of anything is not determined by polls.

This is true, which is why gay marriage hasn't been "wrong" up until now, nor is it now instantly "right". Unless you're a fan of moral relativism, of course.
 
Of course, the rightness or wrongness of anything is not determined by polls.

I don't think that was even implied in the article. It only said that opponents are in the minority

As far as rightness or wrongness regarding same sex relationships, that, first and foremost, is for the individuals involved in that relationship to determine for themselves.
 
I don't think that was even implied in the article.
I didn't say that it was. I was making my own statement about polls.

As far as rightness or wrongness regarding same sex relationships, that, first and foremost, is for the individuals involved in that relationship to determine for themselves.
Only for those who believe there are no absolutes in morality.

As far as the poll, it was about the legality of same-sex marriages, not the morality of same-sex relationships. Two different topics.
 
I didn't say that it was. I was making my own statement about polls.


Only for those who believe there are no absolutes in morality.

As far as the poll, it was about the legality of same-sex marriages, not the morality of same-sex relationships. Two different topics.

I would say that one would have to be okay with same sex relationships if they are not opposed to same sex marriage.

Everyone is free to apply absolutes to their own moral decisions...just not everyone's.
 
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