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I was reading a story somewhere and saw that the unemployment rate among our disabled counterparts are nearing 20%.

That's 1 in 5.

Was wondering what do you guys think of this?
 
i think that's way too low percentage
 
Y said:
i think that's way too low percentage
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i disagree.. i think that's a high percentage...

20% unemployment just for disabilities that's a high compare to nationwide average percentage unemployment is 8.9%
 
Yes, it is true because whether people with disabilities face discrimination from employment, get laid off for some reasons, or simply do not want to work (to get ssi/ssdi).

I have been searched for jobs since I graduated from SFSU last May. It sucks big time when Bush is re-elected. :dizzy:
 
Oddball said:
Yes, it is true because whether people with disabilities face discrimination from employment, get laid off for some reasons, or simply do not want to work (to get ssi/ssdi).

I have been searched for jobs since I graduated from SFSU last May. It sucks big time when Bush is re-elected. :dizzy:
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ur not alone... in fact its nothing related to bush.. but believe it or not I wish that one of the president will pass a law related to newly graduates will get hired.. some sort of law like that

I know its a major problem since 90's all companies always want 2 or more years of experience to be quilitified to be hired.. this seems somewhat no-fair.. and that must change! more and more compaines are requiring work expirence.. if all companies require that.. then how the heck can i find a job to get expirence.. that's a big :nono:
 
DeafSCUBA98 said:
ur not alone... in fact its nothing related to bush.. but believe it or not I wish that one of the president will pass a law related to newly graduates will get hired.. some sort of law like that

I know its a major problem since 90's all companies always want 2 or more years of experience to be quilitified to be hired.. this seems somewhat no-fair.. and that must change! more and more compaines are requiring work expirence.. if all companies require that.. then how the heck can i find a job to get expirence.. that's a big :nono:
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Yes, it sucks big time. Well, PA is my only chance. I am waiting for a green light on the end of this month. Oh, well. :(
 
DeafSCUBA98 said:
ur not alone... in fact its nothing related to bush.. but believe it or not
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I completely disagree with you due to loads of evidences & facts but at this moment, I worn out from debating so I wave a white flag for now and I don't want to post the offtopic posts either.

DeafSCUBA98 said:
I know its a major problem since 90's all companies always want 2 or more years of experience to be quilitified to be hired.. this seems somewhat no-fair.. and that must change! more and more compaines are requiring work expirence.. if all companies require that.. then how the heck can i find a job to get expirence..
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Depends on jobs and colleges. My university provide the training benefits for doctors and such, it means that once I graduate, I have one - three years of experience under my belt. Doctor position is always needed in everywhere (thank you junk & conventional foods ;)), I may not struggle with these jobs but again, who knows? I maybe will... That's one of many reasons why I like about Sweden. Their education system is totally different than America but they prepared the students for jobs based on their talents during in first year of High School (I believe..) instead of college or later on. That's one biggest problem in America and they still didn't resolve that one *sigh*
 
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Deafscuba, hi...
I don't really know Y except from here but I think maybe she meant that 20% unemployment among the deaf is "too low", meaning she thinks that the unemployment rate among the deaf is higher than 20%.

Also, I saw somewhere last week that the national average is more like 5.6 percent.

Whatever the rate it is, I think it is terrible and there are many factors why this is. We can debate this until the cows come home! LOL, but seriously, something has to happen to improve this......
 
magastu- yeah maybe for doctor carrer is different, but mostly companies who are looking for accountant in BA, computer programer, and so on that mostly related to computers (which i'm looking foward to) are requiring at least 2 or more years experience in job related to computer programming, computer specialist, computer engineering, and so on. Which is hard for those newly graduate to get a job, since most of them are looking for big compaines.. but however working for a small company like 'steve's shop' the chance of getting good insurance is low, and the chance of getting good income is low. (probally even worse earn hourly rate instead of annual rate). most college students are looking foward to good insurance, good pay, and good benifits. but saddly they require years of work experience related to that job.
 
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Tousi said:
Also, I saw somewhere last week that the national average is more like 5.6 percent.
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i still think 5.6 percent is a high rate for national average
means 560 people are jobless out of 10,000 ppl.

there's many ways to make a company hiring more people by reducing commerical taxes which companies can afford to hire more people, it won't hurt the tax system or maybe they'll hurt since hiring more people means they're paying more taxes.

but 20% for disabilities.. that's a big number to me... maybe i misunderstood Y ..
 
Deafscuba, I think 5.6 rate is pretty good considering our country's history. I just mentioned that because you had said 8.9 and I thought, yikes, that is way high.....

Then the really high rate among the deaf is a sad thing and I don't know where to begin. I have seen many, long debates about this and most of the time, these debates conclude with this observation: The reason the deaf and other disabled can qualify for SS benefits is to "re-pay" them for society's oppression of them. Burns me up! Right?
 
Tousi said:
Deafscuba, I think 5.6 rate is pretty good considering our country's history. I just mentioned that because you had said 8.9 and I thought, yikes, that is way high.....

Then the really high rate among the deaf is a sad thing and I don't know where to begin. I have seen many, long debates about this and most of the time, these debates conclude with this observation: The reason the deaf and other disabled can qualify for SS benefits is to "re-pay" them for society's oppression of them. Burns me up! Right?
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it really pissed me off when a fellow person says " I don't wanna work i rather sit at home and play PS2, ride bike, hopping around and get SSI and SSDI"

and this kinda pissed me off when person says " no companies want to hire me cuz i'm deaf" because Deaf people can work, i just don't understand why people get low self-esteem that they think they won't get a job just cuz they're Deaf.. or they don't want to have a job?

anyway, for a long time i have been debating to my lazy friends about this, some are still the same, and some get their ass up and look for a job.

But hey, Deaf isn't the only one that does those.. even hearies too.. they still can get welfare and SSI just to be lazy. i've seen some, not only disabilities.
 
Scuba, yeah, that's sad what you said about some people you know.

Of course some hearies are that way, too, but I was trying to be careful not to go off topic which I sometimes like to do. lol

Btw, I was born and raised in Faribault, did you know that?
 
Yes, a lot of jobs want you to have experience of at least 1 year or 2 years. It's silly, but it isn't easy and sometimes we have to tell them that we are open to learn new skills or opportunities.

Also, it's almost important to get an Internship or Co-Op before you graduate because you have a higher chance of being employed than no training at all. It also means that sometimes you may have to start at the bottom. It means that for example, if you want to work Real Estate, you may not find one, but need to start working as a receptionist then they will eventually hire you as Real Estate Agent or you might find what you want when you gain some small experience. It makes a difference. It doesn't mean you will always be employed in exactly what you want right after graduation or training. Someone I know wanted to do Public Relations, and she found something as an Assistant doing copying, making coffee and blah blah, but now a few months later she has want she wants.

You may have to work hard from the bottom of the ladder up to where you want to be. Real world. Real facts. Jobs are not easy to find for anyone. It can take up to 6 months, and if you can get a little training in the evening in some schools might help you better.
 
If you been turned down from a job these people will help.
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TiaraPrincess, Faribault is a small town in southern Minnesota. Deafscuba's from Minn so I mentioned my birthplace which, incidentally is also where the Minn school for the deaf (residential) is.
 
Their education system is totally different than America but they prepared the students for jobs based on their talents during in first year of High School (I believe..) instead of college or later on. That's one biggest problem in America and they still didn't resolve that one *sigh*
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Yeah, there's too much emphasis on the college diploma in American schools. I LOVE college, and have learned so much here and have met the most awesome people. But.....I also feel like an educated idoit b/c while I'm educated I really don't have in-demand skills the way a kid who attended a voke school or a residental school (that has a strong job training program) would
The reason the deaf and other disabled can qualify for SS benefits is to "re-pay" them for society's oppression of them. Burns me up! Right?
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On the other hand Tousi, the SSI benifits could be reparations for oralism. It was hearing people who thought that oralism was the best thing in the world. Many if not most deaf adults of today WERE orally educated, and they believed the experts who said that "oral skills" are the key to sucess....and then they find out that oral skills are good, but it's not a 100% guarentee.
Also, Tousi, it's a fact that most disabled people have very high medical costs (much of it out of pocket) so unless they land a high achieving job with really good benifits, then it's going to be VERY difficult for dhh and people with other disabilties to find a job that pays enough money for them to surivive. I mean our health care system is so messed up that even "middle class" people have trouble finding good quality healthcare.
 
TiaraPrincess said:
Yes, a lot of jobs want you to have experience of at least 1 year or 2 years...Also, it's almost important to get an Internship or Co-Op before you graduate because you have a higher chance of being employed than no training at all. It also means that sometimes you may have to start at the bottom...
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Good suggestions.

Employers want to see experience because otherwise they have no way of knowing if you can do the job. Sometimes they will accept some experience in fields that are not even the same as the job offered. That is because the employer wants to know if you are a dependable employee who will show up every day on time, and have good work habits.

Like you say, a person needs to be willing to start at the bottom and work the way up. Too many college students today think that they can get hired for a top job just because they have a degree. I know that the lower level jobs don't pay as well, and don't have as many benefits, but that should motivate the beginner to strive for advancement. The top jobs require you to "pay your dues"; that is, work your way up and get more experience.

I like the recent example of the proposed commerce secretary, Cuban-born Carlos Gutierrez. He was poor and spoke only Spanish. He began working for Kellog selling Frosted Flakes cereal out of a truck, and finally became CEO of Kellog. He did all that without a college degree.
http://money.cnn.com/2004/11/29/news/newsmakers/commerce_secretary/
 
I like the recent example of the proposed commerce secretary, Cuban-born Carlos Gutierrez. He was poor and spoke only Spanish. He began working for Kellog selling Frosted Flakes cereal out of a truck, and finally became CEO of Kellog. He did all that without a college degree.
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Yeah, that same thing happened with the President or CEO of McDonald's who started working at 15 with fast-food and became manager and so on...I think without a degree. I don't remember who that was. It was told not too long ago.
 
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