Deafs be allowed to marry?

I was in a similar situation myself when I was in college. I had a writing assignment for an ethics class. It was a 10-page paper.

The teacher called me in and asked if I had help on my paper... if my mom helped me... a tutor helped me... a friend helped me... a teacher helped me... etc.

Apparently, my writing was so good that it was better than the hearing students' papers.

What she didn't know was that I grew up with a mom who has two degrees in English (and is an English teacher at 3 different colleges). That's where I got my writing skills from. (Boy, my mom was STRICT with my writing skills.)

I was asked in a history test who fought in
WW1, A .your father
B.your grandfather
or C. great grandfather

I checked off my father and my teacher marked it 'WRONG'
I told my teacher my answer was right that my dad was born in 1892
and he did fight in WW 1. My teacher told that was impossible! Some teachers so programed they can't think out of the box.
 
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whatdidyousay! said:
I was asked in a history test who fought in

WW1, A .your father

B.your grandfather

or C. great grandfather



I checked off my father and my teacher marked it 'WRONG'

I told my teacher my answer was right that my dad was born in 1892

and he did fight in WW 1. My teacher told that was impossible! Some teachers so programed they can't think out of the box.

That was a poorly worded test question anyway. The teacher should know better. Besides, what if your ancestors were conscientious objectors? :lol:
 
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Did your teacher run out of subjects? Its a no brainer answer. I would have been more interested if it was, should a rapist be allowed to marry, or have kids knowing they will grow up to rape.
 
I was asked in a history test who fought in
WW1, A .your father
B.your grandfather
or C. great grandfather

I checked off my father and my teacher marked it 'WRONG'
I told my teacher my answer was right that my dad was born in 1892
and he did fight in WW 1. My teacher told that was impossible! Some teachers so programed they can't think out of the box.
Hahaha...

Reminds me of Back to School when that guy ended up having what was supposedly the worst history teacher... until he impressed the teacher with his own history experience and knowledge as he was as old as the history teacher. ;)
 
I was asked in a history test who fought in
WW1, A .your father
B.your grandfather
or C. great grandfather

I checked off my father and my teacher marked it 'WRONG'
I told my teacher my answer was right that my dad was born in 1892
and he did fight in WW 1. My teacher told that was impossible! Some teachers so programed they can't think out of the box.

Very possible. Check this out. US president John Tyler's grandsons are STILL ALIVE | Mail Online

By the way, very interesting that your father fought in WWI.
 
I simply do not believe that any teacher outside of Nazi Germany in the 30's would really pose this question, let alone a Deaf studies/ASL teacher. I think this is a self-led project gone awry or a troll. I have a lot of thoughts and feelings right now, so I apologize in advance if this is just a garbled mess of words.

-Do you, OP, understand how incredibly dehumanizing it is to ask if we should be allowed to reproduce or marry? By asking if it should be legal to produce a Deaf baby, what you're really asking is "should deaf/hh people be allowed to exist?" "Is it better to never be born than to be born deaf/hh?" "Do deaf/hh people contribute enough to society for us superior hearing people to let them live amongst us?" Our existences are not worthless; far from it, actually. We have lives and jobs, and family and friends who care deeply about us despite what you see as our heinous defect.
-If on the off chance this really was an assignment, why would you do it? You yourself said you knew it was offensive, so why? Why wouldn't you say something to your teacher, or to his/her supervisor? There are so many routes you could have taken other than posting this on a website geared towards the Deaf community. I don't get it!
-Next time a thought wafts into your brain, please think before posting it publicly. It'll save you and the people who have to deal with you a lot of time and frustration.
 
I truly can't believe that the professor thinks this is a question that could/would/should be answered no and no. I would think this was an object lesson, and I would hope that the professor would warn that she ought to have some tough skin when asking these questions.

So I'm going to ignore the absolute offensiveness of the question and give it a serious answer.

First, not all causes of deafness are hereditary, so any attempt to "breed it out" of the human race would not just be wrong, it would also be futile. There are many posters on this very forum that are deaf because of rubella, scarlet fever, ear infections, injuries etc.etc. So deafness would still exist even if the deaf no longer bred with each. Doesn't that sound just disgusting and humane?

I was not born deaf, and its cause is hereditary. I lost my hearing my right ear first, when I was 20, and realized I couldn't hear out of anymore about 3 weeks after I had gone sky diving which hurt that ear like holy hell. During the free fall it felt like someone stabbed me in the ear with an ice pick, so I attributed the loss to skydiving. I never went to the doctor about it, what would they do? Put a bandaid on it? I had my first child at 23, my second at 25. Right after my second child my hearing in my left ear went from normal to severe in less than a year. This is when I found out that I had otosclerosis. My mother also ended up developing it but not until years after I did. I had no idea this could happen until after I had my children.

There is every chance in the world that my children could develop it, more likely my daughter. I actually do wonder if I had known ahead of time if I would have had children. I certainly would have married, but would I risk my children going deaf later in life? I don't know. I think I would though. Deafness isn't the end of the world, it doesn't make you a pariah. There is a guilt factor there though.

Before I got my hearing aids I was sent all over the place for MRI's and Ctscans, because I was losing so much so fast they thought I might have a tumor. I had to go to Boston to see a specialist, my parents brought me and paid for it since I had no insurance. My mom was just starting to lose hearing at this point I think, and she cried on the way back home, because she knew I got it from her. I think I'll feel the same if either of children end up with it, but I honestly don't know if knowing ahead of time would have affected my decision.

Now, I think this also would be a personal decision, for myself, Not a societal one. I think it's quite obvious that if someone told me that I could not marry or have children because of the likelihood that I could pass this on it would be inherently wrong.
 
Knowing the ASL teachers I know, I can't fathom a single one of them asking this as an assignment. What if the OP didn't have internet resources and had to go ask d/Deaf people in public/person. I imagine a few black eyes would have ensued.
 
My guess is that the teacher assigned this so that students would experience reactions and over reactions since they are ASL students. Success.

Got to wonder why they don't stick with something like Spanish - so much easier too....:D

Laura
 
I truly can't believe that the professor thinks this is a question that could/would/should be answered no and no. I would think this was an object lesson, and I would hope that the professor would warn that she ought to have some tough skin when asking these questions.

So I'm going to ignore the absolute offensiveness of the question and give it a serious answer.

First, not all causes of deafness are hereditary, so any attempt to "breed it out" of the human race would not just be wrong, it would also be futile. There are many posters on this very forum that are deaf because of rubella, scarlet fever, ear infections, injuries etc.etc. So deafness would still exist even if the deaf no longer bred with each. Doesn't that sound just disgusting and humane?

I was not born deaf, and its cause is hereditary. I lost my hearing my right ear first, when I was 20, and realized I couldn't hear out of anymore about 3 weeks after I had gone sky diving which hurt that ear like holy hell. During the free fall it felt like someone stabbed me in the ear with an ice pick, so I attributed the loss to skydiving. I never went to the doctor about it, what would they do? Put a bandaid on it? I had my first child at 23, my second at 25. Right after my second child my hearing in my left ear went from normal to severe in less than a year. This is when I found out that I had otosclerosis. My mother also ended up developing it but not until years after I did. I had no idea this could happen until after I had my children.

There is every chance in the world that my children could develop it, more likely my daughter. I actually do wonder if I had known ahead of time if I would have had children. I certainly would have married, but would I risk my children going deaf later in life? I don't know. I think I would though. Deafness isn't the end of the world, it doesn't make you a pariah. There is a guilt factor there though.

Before I got my hearing aids I was sent all over the place for MRI's and Ctscans, because I was losing so much so fast they thought I might have a tumor. I had to go to Boston to see a specialist, my parents brought me and paid for it since I had no insurance. My mom was just starting to lose hearing at this point I think, and she cried on the way back home, because she knew I got it from her. I think I'll feel the same if either of children end up with it, but I honestly don't know if knowing ahead of time would have affected my decision.

Now, I think this also would be a personal decision, for myself, Not a societal one. I think it's quite obvious that if someone told me that I could not marry or have children because of the likelihood that I could pass this on it would be inherently wrong.

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I truly can't believe that the professor thinks this is a question that could/would/should be answered no and no. I would think this was an object lesson, and I would hope that the professor would warn that she ought to have some tough skin when asking these questions.

So I'm going to ignore the absolute offensiveness of the question and give it a serious answer.

First, not all causes of deafness are hereditary, so any attempt to "breed it out" of the human race would not just be wrong, it would also be futile. There are many posters on this very forum that are deaf because of rubella, scarlet fever, ear infections, injuries etc.etc. So deafness would still exist even if the deaf no longer bred with each. Doesn't that sound just disgusting and humane?

I was not born deaf, and its cause is hereditary. I lost my hearing my right ear first, when I was 20, and realized I couldn't hear out of anymore about 3 weeks after I had gone sky diving which hurt that ear like holy hell. During the free fall it felt like someone stabbed me in the ear with an ice pick, so I attributed the loss to skydiving. I never went to the doctor about it, what would they do? Put a bandaid on it? I had my first child at 23, my second at 25. Right after my second child my hearing in my left ear went from normal to severe in less than a year. This is when I found out that I had otosclerosis. My mother also ended up developing it but not until years after I did. I had no idea this could happen until after I had my children.

There is every chance in the world that my children could develop it, more likely my daughter. I actually do wonder if I had known ahead of time if I would have had children. I certainly would have married, but would I risk my children going deaf later in life? I don't know. I think I would though. Deafness isn't the end of the world, it doesn't make you a pariah. There is a guilt factor there though.

Before I got my hearing aids I was sent all over the place for MRI's and Ctscans, because I was losing so much so fast they thought I might have a tumor. I had to go to Boston to see a specialist, my parents brought me and paid for it since I had no insurance. My mom was just starting to lose hearing at this point I think, and she cried on the way back home, because she knew I got it from her. I think I'll feel the same if either of children end up with it, but I honestly don't know if knowing ahead of time would have affected my decision.

Now, I think this also would be a personal decision, for myself, Not a societal one. I think it's quite obvious that if someone told me that I could not marry or have children because of the likelihood that I could pass this on it would be inherently wrong.

If I knew you were in Boston Ambrosia, I would have tried to make the trip more fun by introducing you to the North End...:D...I HATE MRIs.....I agree marriage isn't a choice government or society should make...if it were allowed, how would we explain half the marriages in the Entertainment community?

Laura
 
Knowing the ASL teachers I know, I can't fathom a single one of them asking this as an assignment. What if the OP didn't have internet resources and had to go ask d/Deaf people in public/person. I imagine a few black eyes would have ensued.

I think there is a 95% chance, or better that this is a troll. If that is the case, getting upset is exactly what they want.

I don't know about ASL teachers, but I know other teachers I have seen that allowed students to "learn from experience.". In this case the teacher could (totally hypothetical) be sitting students up to allow them to learn how sensitive communications can be. Just a possibility.
 
I think there is a 95% chance, or better that this is a troll. If that is the case, getting upset is exactly what they want.

I don't know about ASL teachers, but I know other teachers I have seen that allowed students to "learn from experience.". In this case the teacher could (totally hypothetical) be sitting students up to allow them to learn how sensitive communications can be. Just a possibility.

Unfortunately, I have had teachers that like to provoke in this way. One of many times I felt the students knew better than the instructor.

Laura
 
I think there is a 95% chance, or better that this is a troll. If that is the case, getting upset is exactly what they want.

I don't know about ASL teachers, but I know other teachers I have seen that allowed students to "learn from experience.". In this case the teacher could (totally hypothetical) be sitting students up to allow them to learn how sensitive communications can be. Just a possibility.

True. And I agree, most likely a troll. It's been entertaining seeing the responses here if nothing else. :)
 
1. Should deaf people be allowed to marry other deafs?
2. Should deaf people be allowed to reproduce if they know that their children will be deaf?

1. Yes.

2. Yes.

Well, no offense, your questions are so hilariously pathetic. :|
 
Very possible. Check this out. US president John Tyler's grandsons are STILL ALIVE | Mail Online

By the way, very interesting that your father fought in WWI.

My dad had this militarily troop photo and it was dated 1917 . My dad was born in Russia and had no birth records so he could change the year he was born to made himself older or younger. He change it a few years to be older so he could fight for his new country, USA. It took me a few minutes to make my teacher realize my answer was right.
 
:giggle:

I understand.

It's not OP's fault. Teacher may did it on purpose to test OP how OP approachs with deaf people. OP is lucky that online is nothig but i wonder how would deafies react to ops question in person? . :hmm:

Too bad that teachers dont teach students about how sensitive questions or how to handle with questions or how to approach strangers by asking questions right away. etc. Oh well. OP is offended with my posts. oops

If the teacher pass out this assignment to see what kind of reaction people would give, I say that teacher has no business teaching any classes that has to do the deaf and hoh people. And if the OP did for this reason she should banned from posting here any more.
 
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