Bring our POW's and MIA's home now!

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It has long been speculated that American GI's from WWII, Korea, and Vietnam were held prisoner in The Soviet Union. Our government has consistantly denied it. Dio Vindici!

Group justified by report on Soviet POWs
By Joyce Howard Price
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


Leaders of a group that long has sought the return of U.S. POWs and MIAs say they feel vindicated by a new Pentagon report that concludes that many Americans, including U.S. servicemen, were imprisoned in the former Soviet Union during the Cold War.
The National Alliance of Families (NAF) hailed the report -- "The Gulag Study," which was compiled by the Defense Prisoner of War/Missing Personnel Office's Joint Commission Support Directorate (JCSD) -- as the "definitive work confirming that prisoners of war" from World War II and the Korean conflict "were transferred to the former Soviet Union" and held captive in labor camps, primarily in Siberia.

"Volumes of documentation unearthed over the last 50 years by family members and researchers convinced us long ago" that this was the case, the alliance said.
But NAF said that for years, "official Pentagon policy dismissed not only our conclusions, but the conclusions of their own investigators," such as the Pentagon's 1993 report "The Transfer of U.S. Korean War POWs to the Soviet Union."
NAF volunteer Lynn O'Shea said the newly released JCSD study "vindicates" people such as the late Rita Van Wees, a founder of the group, who was convinced that her son, Korean War Pfc. Ronald "Dutch" Van Wees, was a POW in Siberia.
"He was seen driving a truck" in Siberia, but the U.S. government dismissed her claims, Ms. O'Shea said.
But the study by the JCSD, which was established in the fall of 1994, states that "Americans, including American servicemen, were imprisoned in the former Soviet Union."
"The Soviets and their Warsaw Pact allies even transferred some of these Americans from satellite states such as the German Democratic Republic to the Soviet Union, where they were detained," according to the study's executive summary.
"However, despite our extensive efforts, we have not yet acquired definitive, verifiable information that would allow us to determine the scope of such transfers or the ultimate fates of those whose lives were directly affected by them," the summary added.
JCSD Executive Secretary Norman Kass estimated that hundreds of Americans, both servicemen and civilians, were incarcerated in the former Soviet Union.
But he added: "I'm not comfortable with any hard and fast numbers. ... Our job is to try to find these Americans or their remains and bring them home."
Mr. Kass denied that the Pentagon refused to believe reports that Americans were held in the former Soviet Union.
"We've been in business for 12 or 13 years. We've kept these reports on the burner of unresolved issues."
NAF said it is urging the White House, the State Department and the Pentagon to "vigorously seek out information leading to the identity and fate" of Americans imprisoned in the former Soviet Union.
"We call upon the Russian government ... to open their records to U.S. investigators and allow the families of these men [to know] the truth they have waited for so long," the group stated.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050221-115000-8701r.htm
 
The total number of American POWs captured to date on the fronts of Indochina, i.e. in North Vietnam, South Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia, comprises 1205 people. Of them, 671 people were captured in North Vietnam and 143 aviators [were captured] in South Vietnam. This means the total number of aviators, and diversionists [special operations] (American advisors on diversionary ships and divers), captured on the territories of North and South Vietnam comprises 814 people. In addition, from other categories of American servicemen in Indochina, we have captured 391 people, including: 283 in South Vietnam, 65 in Cambodia and 43 in Laos; 814 and 391 comprise 1205 people.

GENERAL STAFF OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE USSR
MAIN INTELLIGENCE DIRECTORATE [GRU]


Top Secret
Copy NO. 6


REPORT OF THE DEPUTY CHIEF OF THE GENERAL STAFF OF THE
VNA [VIETNAMESE PEOPLES ARMY] GENERAL-LIEUTENANT TRAN VAN QUANG
AT THE POLITBURO MEETING OF THE TSK PTV
15 SEPTEMBER 1972
(translation from Vietnamese into Russian)


Moscow 1972


For Official Use Only



Here is more data on the 1205 POWs.


We have captured 624 American aviators in North Vietnam, to include 7 colonels, 85 lieutenant colonels, 183 majors, i.e. the total number of senior US Air Force _and Navy officers comprises 275 people. The 624 American aviators include 3 astronauts, i.e. three people who have completed the necessary training for space flight, for instance, Jim Katlo, who was captured in the vicinity of Hanoi. This figure also includes 15 US Air Force aces having more than 4000 flight hours each: Norman Klarvisto, Karmet, Jim Intist Shasht and others. This is the specific data on American aviators captured in North Vietnam.
 
Blame the democrats for this! They started the vietnam war.If you would had voted for barry goldwater there wouldnt be a vietnam.
 
Steve, it would be nice to blame one administration, one party, one person, but we are talking about servicemen that were taken from German POW camps in WWII by Soviets. Korean POW camps during the Korean war by Soviets and Chinese. Vietnam POW's taken by Soviets and Chinese. Almost inclusively from 1944 through 1973. That is not Democrats or Republicans. It is not even liberals and conservitives. It is an ongoing shame that every administration has participated in. Proof exists that these men lived and were interegated by the Soviets. Try to search and find something called the "X Document".
 
Lets put this story to rest. THERE NOT COMMING HOME EVER!!! Theyre dead and buried. If they were alive you think the russians would had returned them?
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Lets put this story to rest. THERE NOT COMMING HOME EVER!!! Theyre dead and buried. If they were alive you think the russians would had returned them?
They might be dead and buried, but they are not forgotten by their families and friends. I believe their loved ones deserve answers.
 
The tradition of abandoning our servicemen continues to this day. It is ingrained into U.S. diplomatic policy. And it is a dishonor to our men and women who risk their lives to assure our tomorrows.
 
Codger said:
The tradition of abandoning our servicemen continues to this day. It is ingrained into U.S. diplomatic policy. And it is a dishonor to our men and women who risk their lives to assure our tomorrows.
Yes, it is tragic and disgraceful.

We are having some success in finding remains in Vietnam now (though much too late).

I think there are a few "defectors" still living in North Korea (not POWs).
Many of the Americans taken prisoner in Korea were sent out of country for long-term imprisonment (also the basis for the "Manchurian candidate" theory).

LCDR Michael Scott Speicher is still missing since 17 January 1991 in the Gulf War. I wear his POW bracelet always, and am reminded of him daily. His status must be resolved.
 
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