Bashing President Bush takes over as our No. 1 national pastime

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Larry Elder
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Move over, NASCAR. Out of the way, major league baseball, horseracing or gambling. For bashing President Bush now takes its place as America's No. 1 national pastime.

Sure, Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., said the president deceived the American people about why America led a coalition in invading Iraq. "Week after week after week after week, we were told lie after lie after lie after lie," said Kennedy.

And yes, House Democratic Whip Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., called president Bush "incompetent."
"Bush is an incompetent leader," said Pelosi. "In fact, he's not a leader. He's a person who has no judgment, no experience and no knowledge of the subjects that he has to decide upon."

And Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., called non-military-serving supporters of the president's Iraq policy "chicken hawks." "We know who the chicken hawks are," said Lautenberg. "They talk tough on national defense and military issues and cast aspersions on others. When it was their turn to serve, where were they? AWOL -- that's where they were. . . . The lead chicken hawk against Sen. Kerry is the vice president of the United States -- Vice President Cheney.

He was in Missouri this week claiming that Sen. Kerry was not up to the job of protecting this nation. What nerve. Where was Dick Cheney when that war was going on?"

No, I'm talking about just regular folks who feel no reluctance to trash the president in private, social settings. They either don't fear -- or don't care -- whether other people disagree. These anti-Bush remarks take place in homes, at work, or other places where people previously have refrained from introducing politics or religion lest they offend someone.
Now, the gloves are off.

"Bush reminds me of a little monkey -- he just never listens," said my friend's doctor, who, after conducting a checkup, offered this analysis of President George W. Bush. At a small house party a couple of weeks ago, one of the guests said over coffee, "That clown, Bush, has to go."

I had my house painted recently. One of the painters informed another that I host a current events radio talk show. "Really?" said the painter. "So what do you think about our idiot president?"

Sam, a young college student and a friend of mine, was at a fellow student's home. Sam was introduced to some people visiting the student's mother. For some reason, one of them asked Sam whether he was a conservative. He said yes. Said one person to whom he was just introduced, "So, you like Bush?" Sam said, "Yes, I do." To which the person responded while walking away, "Well, I can't even talk to you!"

A friend took her grandparents to a nice dinner to celebrate their 60th wedding anniversary.
Someone at a nearby table made a loud, disparaging remark about President Bush. The waiter messed up that table's order, prompting one guest to say loudly to the waiter, "I guess I can't blame you for being confused. You're probably a Bush-voter!"

When discussing religion or politics with strangers, conventional social etiquette compels one to tread gently and cautiously when raising such topics with strangers. But Bush-haters appear perfectly willing to batter the president without regard as to whether anybody might be offended, or they do so with the assumption that anybody with a brain surely must agree, or they couldn't care less whether they offend someone.

I heard of a local high school teacher who, in front of the class, likened George W. Bush to Adolf Hitler. A friend's hairdresser loudly and blithely informs all who listen that Bush "created Osama bin Laden." A nearby florist wrinkled his face as if a skunk had waddled by, and called the Iraq war "Bush's War."

Why do the "decent, tolerant and open-minded" people throw social caution to the wind while denouncing President Bush? Call this the Pauline Kael syndrome. The former New Yorker film critic once made a remark that captures this I-hate-the-president-and-any-sane-person-agrees-with-me mentality. In the 1972 presidential race, Richard Nixon destroyed George McGovern, winning every state except Massachusetts and the District of Columbia. The results surprised and stunned Kael, who said, "Nobody I know voted for Nixon."

Social Bush-bashers depend on something they feel Bush supporters lack -- civility. Mature people avoid making others uncomfortable or getting into disputes over politics in social settings. They avoid unnecessarily offending people whom they don't know. They don't assume the world marches in lockstep with their views.

Bush's critics call the president "arrogant." But there's a special type of arrogance that assumes any fair and open-minded person must think as I do.

What about you? Have you bitten your tongue while somebody you just met demeans the president by calling him a moron, evil or reminiscent of Hitler? How many times have you fought back the urge to defend the president against unfair, hysterical, emotional, nonsensical and childish "Bush-makes-me-feel-ashamed-to-be-an-American" type remarks?
 
How many times did I hear from republicans/conservatives who bashed Bill Clinton? .... as many as we did about Bush yet these Bush voters are complaining about it. Added: I never complain when they bashed Bill Clinton and I never call them 'unpatriotic' as some of them usually do that to me.

I never get this. Never. Not even in million years.

btw, it is not 'isolated' stuff in America... In many countries, they are concerning about Bush and his policies. Few friends of mine who went to Japan for some kind of exchange program, many japaneses asked them if they are republicans or vote for Bush. They said "no", many japaneses either way talked how awful Bush/his policies are or "Thank god that you didn't vote for him." That said much about Bush.

My only word for this topic: "so?"

Peace out :)
 
Bashing Bush?
What utter nonsense.
The Bush junta OWNS the media.
Compare the Clinton bashings to the Monkeyboy bashings and you will see the truth.
Come on, I dare ya.

The 911 Truth Movement is not going to be stopped.
Get over it.
 
........Call this the Pauline Kael syndrome..... captures this I-hate-the-president-and-any-sane-person-agrees-with-me mentality..... "Nobody I know voted for Nixon."

Thank you.
 
You expecting applause or something?
True Patriots just do it.

To tell the truth, I had reservations about you, Codger, and I have come to the conclusion that you are just another shill for the cartel.
Oh well.
 
Ahhh so, it is ok for republicans/conservatives to bash Bill Clinton but it is grave sin for anyone who voices their opinions against Bush?

*noted and filed it up in my brain* Yes sir! I really get it this time!

Maybe I need to pose as some Bush voters and yell: "Bush is my lord! Heil Bush! Bush is my god! Bush is my president! I am willing to kill my family for Bush! Heil Bush!"

Codger, is that better? Thank you, sir!

Heil Bush!

Heil Bush!

Heil Bush!

Heil Bush!

*wheezing*

Heil Bush!

Heil Bush!

;) :P
 
Magatsu said:
Ahhh so, it is ok for republicans/conservatives to bash Bill Clinton but it is grave sin and this cheaply namecalling, "Pauline Kael syndrome" for anyone who voices their opinions against Bush?

*noted and filed it up in my brain* Yes sir! I really get it this time!

Maybe I need to pose as some Bush voters and yell: "Bush is my lord! Heil Bush! Bush is my god! Bush is my president! I am willing to kill my family for Bush! Heil Bush!"

Codger, is that better? Thank you, sir!

Heil Bush!

Heil Bush!

Heil Bush!

Heil Bush!

hahahahahahahaha but I aint going to salute to that guy. Unheil Bush!
 
Meg said:
hahahahahahahaha but I aint going to salute to that guy. Unheil Bush!
*gasp* you are unpatriotic! You don't support our Lord Bush! You should be jail for that terrorism comment!

Heil Bush! :P
 
A shill for the cartel? Because I don't agree with you? Hahahaha! You still continue to prove my point with your antics!
 
Magatsu said:
*gasp* you are unpatriotic! You don't support our Lord Bush! You should be jail for that terrorism comment!

Heil Bush! :P


Yeah yeah yeah yeah right!

UNHEIL BUSH!


*pppppfffftttttt*

Bush is not for America..he is for conquering the world which Im AGAINST!
This aint Impreialism!
 
Meg said:
Yeah yeah yeah yeah right!

UNHEIL BUSH!


*pppppfffftttttt*

Bush is not for America..he is for conquering the world which Im AGAINST!
This aint Impreialism!
But! But! But...................... My Lord Bush is spreading the Democracy in other countries! He make the world safer for all of us! God Bless Bush!

Heil Bush!
 
Magatsu said:
But! But! But...................... My Lord Bush is spreading the Democracy in other countries! He make the world safer for all of us! God Bless Bush!

Heil Bush!

Sheesh..youre brainwashed! Get out of this Bushcult!
 
Perhaps you should print your rantings and place them in a time capsule so you can dig them up years from now and see your behavior the way mature people do. You dress all of your posts with images offensive to the President and all who do not see the world through your very young eyes. You will grow up some day. And then it will be your time to lead the world into socialism or whatever you prefer. Maybe the next administration will be to your liking. Somehow I doubt it because you sometimes just rant to be ranting.
 
Codger said:
Perhaps you should print your rantings and place them in a time capsule so you can dig them up years from now and see your behavior the way mature people do. You dress all of your posts with images offensive to the President and all who do not see the world through your very young eyes. You will grow up some day. And then it will be your time to lead the world into socialism or whatever you prefer. Maybe the next administration will be to your liking. Somehow I doubt it because you sometimes just rant to be ranting.
Im sorry if we seem to be ranting but we do have every right to voice our opinions as much as you do. I am sure if we were back in Clinton time, we will be hearing Clinton bashing as much as you are right now with Bush bashing.

We will grow up yes but it does not mean that we will get over our feelings toward Bush and his policies.

We will never agree on this so we can agree to disagree but please know it is not intended to insult you personally but that we are voicing our opinions that has nothing to do with anyone who value Bush.
 
*chanting* Bush go hell, bush go hell, bush go hell, bush go hell, bush go hell, bush go hell (repeating continues)
 
Codger, oh? Ok, let me show you what some conservative-christians and their 'mature' behaviors which in the future, people are to be guarantee to find it appalling and wonder how can they be humans when they did that. Here it is:


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There are many more horrible 'rants' and 'behaviors' by some conservative-christians/republicans, which in the future, people will find it very appalling.

What I said in this topic, I am mimicking these freereps from http://www.freerepublic.com -- I strongly suggest you to read any of their comments to understand what I mean. Thank you.

Edit: As I said in other topic, "Fighting the evil by becoming the evil". That's what I did by becoming them for several minutes in this topic.
 
Oh please... Not all of us are the followers of that so-called preacher, Fred Phelps!
 
So I am not so-called 'unpatriotic' either. I do love this country but I do not support Bush.
 
Codger said:
Perhaps you should print your rantings and place them in a time capsule so you can dig them up years from now and see your behavior the way mature people do. You dress all of your posts with images offensive to the President and all who do not see the world through your very young eyes. You will grow up some day. And then it will be your time to lead the world into socialism or whatever you prefer. Maybe the next administration will be to your liking. Somehow I doubt it because you sometimes just rant to be ranting.

Codger, I agree that there is nothing like the rigidity and intolerance of the young. I have sensed through his posts, though, that Magatsu has a very lively mind, a broad range of interests, and does evidence some receptiveness to ... at least consider other points of view, even when they can't be turned around to simply buttress an argument (as opposed to always being in lockstep).

Funny you started that "Who said it?" thread; here's several that burble up (paraphrased I'm sure).

"I wasn't a conservative until I had anything to be conservative about." Bill Maher?

"The broader the statement, the narrower the mind" (Who?)

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" (this one I know was Aristotle, though I believe the translation should have been 'consider', as opposed to 'entertain'.

I can only hope I haven't managed to insult either of you with these observations....
 
Codger said:
........Call this the Pauline Kael syndrome..... captures this I-hate-the-president-and-any-sane-person-agrees-with-me mentality..... "Nobody I know voted for Nixon."

Thank you.

It seems the subtelty of the point is too elusive.

Spelled out; Pauline Kael was so invested/insulated in her point of view that socially she did not even know anyone who thought differently, therefore could not concieve that any one else in the entire country could be capable of believing differently than she or her friends/acquaintances. I've heard her quoted as saying "But how could he have lost? No one I know voted for Nixon."
 
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